It made almost 4x it's budget back and Hasbro literally said themselves that it was solidly profitable.Rhedosaurus wrote:It didn't reach the top Box Office spot once and it only made a small profit. That IS underperforming.KillCrites wrote:It didn't underperform.Rhedosaurus wrote:
Hard to justify considering how Bumblebee underperformed.
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Hasbro may have simply said that just to protect its asset rather then promote the movie.KillCrites wrote:It made almost 4x it's budget back and Hasbro literally said themselves that it was solidly profitable.Rhedosaurus wrote:It didn't reach the top Box Office spot once and it only made a small profit. That IS underperforming.KillCrites wrote: It didn't underperform.
And just because something makes a profit doesn't mean that it's successful. Zilla '98, JP3, Man Of Steel, and BvS all made a profit, but few consider those movies successful.
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Bumblebee did good enough and received great reviews. It was a success in that sense, and brought back interest in live action TF movies.
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Yeah, this. I honestly don’t think that Hasbro would continue after the film that nearly killed the Transformers movie franchise, and was easily the worst ever in the series. “TF6”, will likely be similar to the Bay films in that it’s a big ensemble film, and not a solo like Bumbleee. Unless for some reason, they’d want to finish off the Bayverse by everyone fighting Unicron, but TLK muddled the lore so much that it still wouldn’t make any sense.Tyrant_Lizard_King wrote:Like both Transformers YouTubers Ragin Nation and Rodimus Primal have said I don't think this follow up will be an actual sequel to TLK. Simply a film that has Transformers in the title (which Bumblebee did not).
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Chances are, they would've just copied and pasted from Transformers PrimeGodzilla165 wrote:Unless for some reason, they’d want to finish off the Bayverse by everyone fighting Unicron, but TLK muddled the lore so much that it still wouldn’t make any sense.
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According to this, Bumblebee was a prequel/spinoff all along. It was NEVER meant to reboot the whole franchise.
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I keep getting a playback error. Also you really seem to have a vendetta against this film.Rhedosaurus wrote:According to this, Bumblebee was a prequel/spinoff all along. It was NEVER meant to reboot the whole franchise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMEIZ_e ... CueQUFxEnA
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It's not like the video's worth viewing anyway.
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Breakdown wrote:I keep getting a playback error. Also you really seem to have a vendetta against this film.Rhedosaurus wrote:According to this, Bumblebee was a prequel/spinoff all along. It was NEVER meant to reboot the whole franchise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMEIZ_e ... CueQUFxEnA
No. I just have a vendetta against people who destroy franchises and prevent them from reaching their full potential.
And here's a new links. It should work this time.
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Can't say I'm not surprised.
Reboot my ass...
Seriously Bayformers desperately needs to die at this point.
Reboot my ass...
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How did Bumblebee destroy the franchise? Bayformers in general, sure (even though it could be argued those movies made the franchise more popular), but Bumblebee is a good movie. If we're talking about the producers, I have no idea what's happening with what the movie is because the news is so muddled about whether it's a prequel or a reboot. One day it's one, the other day it's the other, I just wish they would make up their minds.Rhedosaurus wrote:No. I just have a vendetta against people who destroy franchises and prevent them from reaching their full potential.
I think I've seen Midnight's Edge's videos in my recommendations and... I honestly just ignore them because of the obnoxious "grabby" thumbnails and titles, I can't stand channels who make their thumbnails look like a gossip magazine cover unless it's a parody of those channels like HelloGreedo does.
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I'll call it "Bob: The One Who Was skreeonk From The Start".
skreeonk scary shit though if it is just scratches.
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GodzillavsZilla wrote:How did Bumblebee destroy the franchise? Bayformers in general, sure (even though it could be argued those movies made the franchise more popular), but Bumblebee is a good movie. If we're talking about the producers, I have no idea what's happening with what the movie is because the news is so muddled about whether it's a prequel or a reboot. One day it's one, the other day it's the other, I just wish they would make up their minds.Rhedosaurus wrote:No. I just have a vendetta against people who destroy franchises and prevent them from reaching their full potential.
I think I've seen Midnight's Edge's videos in my recommendations and... I honestly just ignore them because of the obnoxious "grabby" thumbnails and titles, I can't stand channels who make their thumbnails look like a gossip magazine cover unless it's a parody of those channels like HelloGreedo does.
No no no. I'm not saying Bumble destroyed the franchise. I'm saying that all the crappy Transformers movie made after the first one damaged/destroyed the franchise and that if they were you know...GOOD, then Bumblebee would have made a lot more money instead of so many people being burned out by Bayformers.
As for Midnight's Edge, they rarely been wrong before, as I've shown via the examples that I've listed.
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Yeah, I won't deny the Bayformers movies fucked the franchise (though I'd say the last two ruined it because of the huge dip in the box office comparing AoE with TLK. One made a billion, people who saw it said it sucked which most likely caused the latter to flop). Honestly though? I think Bumblebee gave me hope for the franchise, I had fun, it washed the bad taste of the previous movies out of my mouth, it felt like how I wanted a Transformers movie. I was excited for the future of the franchise.Rhedosaurus wrote: No no no. I'm not saying Bumble destroyed the franchise. I'm saying that all the crappy Transformers movie made after the first one damaged/destroyed the franchise and that if they were you know...GOOD, then Bumblebee would have made a lot more money instead of so many people being burned out by Bayformers.
Until I hear the rumor(?) that the next movie will be continuing off TLK...
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It's not. Not sure why people still think that. Though some elements of it may remain the Bayverse is DEAD!
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I don't think people where burnt out so much as they where sick of sub-par films. Bumblebee was never going to make ROTF or DOTM numbers, and expecting it to is completely unrealistic. Despite this, Bumblebee smashed expectiations and became critically and financially successful. It showed that there was very much interest in Transformers so long as they where actually GOOD. Everything past TF1 ranged from absolutely terrible (ROTF, TLK) to mediocre (AOE, DOTM).
If Hasbro wants to keep this up, they'd be wise to follow Bumblebee very closely as an example. Travis Knight would probably be my go-to man for any future sequels, and never, ever have Bay direct another entry in this series again. Also I'd take anything Lorenzo DiBonaventura with a grain of salt, he's been extremely wishy washy on the Prequel/Reboot thing and seems to change his mind every other day. I'd wait for an official statement from Hasbro.
If Hasbro wants to keep this up, they'd be wise to follow Bumblebee very closely as an example. Travis Knight would probably be my go-to man for any future sequels, and never, ever have Bay direct another entry in this series again. Also I'd take anything Lorenzo DiBonaventura with a grain of salt, he's been extremely wishy washy on the Prequel/Reboot thing and seems to change his mind every other day. I'd wait for an official statement from Hasbro.
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