The Avengers!

[SpanishBulldog63]

Cena is overrated as hell!

This.

How about Big Show or Mark Henry strong?

GOLDBERG!!!

Just don't put him in a match with Lesnar*Shudders while remembering Wrestlemania 20*

[miguelnuva]

Cena is overrated as hell!

This.

How about Big Show or Mark Henry strong?

GOLDBERG!!!

Just don't put him in a match with Lesnar*Shudders while remembering Wrestlemania 20*[/quote]

Cena has overpowered Mark Henry and Big Show plenty of times plus anyone that thinks he's overrated has not seen his matches with HBK, Edge or Lesnar.

[SpanishBulldog63]

Cena has overpowered Mark Henry and Big Show plenty of times plus anyone that thinks he's overrated has not seen his matches with HBK, Edge or Lesnar.

Eh,thats just the writing behind the match,of course they want to have the other guy job and make their posterboy look stronger than he is(but i saw apromo on RAW one night...thats a shitload more than I can lift).as far as overrated i say he is...to a point. Like the last several months-year have been good,with the exception of the Lesnar match at Extreme Rules where all he did was TWO moves and pull a win out of his ass.I mean him winning..ok i could see it.But like that?No,just no.

[Zillaowner]

Cena is overrated, who thinks not is blind

[SpanishBulldog63]

Cena is overrated, who thinks not is blind

Poor kids,teenage girls,and deprived wives

[miguelnuva]

Cena is overrated, who thinks not is blind

Poor kids,teenage girls,and deprived wives

I know alot of grown man who are cena fans.

[Zillaowner]

Guess they're the minority cause a lot of the majority hate Cena and want WWF back.

[miguelnuva]

Guess they're the minority cause a lot of the majority hate Cena and want WWF back.

Wouldn't Cena's fans be the majority if his fans are women, children and some men?

And who wants WWF back, I've heard they want the attitude era back but getting WWF back is impossible.

[shinmattiathekaiju]

Guess they're the minority cause a lot of the majority hate Cena and want WWF back.

Just keep Ultimate Warrior away.

[Berzerkgodzilla]

Why has this thread turned into a discussion on wrestlers

[shinmattiathekaiju]

Why has this thread turned into a discussion on wrestlers

Since Jonh Cena was mentioned.

[Goji]

Somebody actually thought that was Batgirl and not Catwomen..?

Woooooooooow..........please tell me that was some kind of half-assed attempt at being funny.

[wataru]

Somebody actually thought that was Batgirl and not Catwomen..?

Woooooooooow..........please tell me that was some kind of half-assed attempt at being funny.

I did because Ive not read a single goddamn piece of smoke-up-the-ass news about thsi film. And she looks like Batgirl, NOT Catwoman.

EDIT:
The Avengers has passed TDK in total worldwide gross. Next is Alice in Wonderland. I think it'll smear that POS.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

Somebody actually thought that was Batgirl and not Catwomen..?

Woooooooooow..........please tell me that was some kind of half-assed attempt at being funny.

I did because Ive not read a single goddamn piece of smoke-up-the-ass news about thsi film. And she looks like Batgirl, NOT Catwoman.

If you look at the trailers, you'll see that she dresses like a high socialite, taunts Bruce Wayne with her "There's a storm coming..." speech, and just exudes an attitude of smug, rich and deadly. I've never seen a Batgirl that acts like that.

[wataru]

Batgirl in the original comics was Barbara Gordon's daughter who trains to become Batgirl, becomes paralyzed and becomes Oracle.

Batgirl in Batman and Robin is Alfred Pennyworth's schoolgirl daughter come to take him away from being a servant to Bruce Wayne and ends up becoming Batgirl because Alfred thinks she can do good.

Then there's Batwoman, all the alternate Batgirls...

...so yeah how she acts in a movie with no connection to any other Catwoman or Batgirl history is irrelevant.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

Batgirl in the original comics was Barbara Gordon's daughter who trains to become Batgirl, becomes paralyzed and becomes Oracle.

Batgirl in Batman and Robin is Alfred Pennyworth's schoolgirl daughter come to take him away from being a servant to Bruce Wayne and ends up becoming Batgirl because Alfred thinks she can do good.

Then there's Batwoman, all the alternate Batgirls...

...so yeah how she acts in a movie with no connection to any other Catwoman or Batgirl history is irrelevant.

You're using a really bad example from a really bad movie. That really shouldn't count.

Joel Shumacher had no idea what he was doing with the characters he had. Christopher Nolan, on the other hand, has proven himself to know what he's doing with Batman and his friends and enemies.

[Chris55]

Joel Shumacher had no idea what he was doing with the characters he had.

Of course he did! He put nipples on their suits!

[wataru]

Im not using a bad example. Im used AN EXAMPLE.

Neither Batgirl, Batwoman and/or Catwoman are universal, GxG. So you saying how her character acts in the movie means nothing. You could EASILY rename her Cassandra Kane/Batwoman and it would work for the movie.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

Neither Batgirl, Batwoman and/or Catwoman are universal, GxG.

I would say there is a universal Catwoman: A high socialite of Gotham, who after seeing Batman, becomes obsessed with being a cat burglar.

So you saying how her character acts in the movie means nothing. You could EASILY rename her Cassandra Kane/Batwoman and it would work for the movie.

Except that what was shown in the trailers does reflect how most people see Catwoman.

[wataru]

You dont know what "most people" see, GxG. Dont use vague unsubstantiated claims in debates.

Catwoman in previous media:








Batgirl in previous media:





Ann Hathaway 'Catwoman':


Look, here's a comparison, which looks most like Ann? The girl on the left..