John Carter (2012)

[SoleMan]

Mixed spelling. And Star Wars is not a rip off of Star Wars. Other then the battles, theyre not similiar. Luke was not a human thrown into an alien world. Nor was he an adventurer like John Carter. John Carter doesnt even evolve space ship battles.

It involved air-ship battles...and little flyers that intercepted larger convoys, which is a fairly common military tactic, I only bring it up as it seems somewhat relevant. And I guess you're right, there is no way Luke went to another planet and recieved some way of amplifying his powers. That didn't happen. At all.

Stop grasping at straws. Swashbuckling films post-date A Princess of Mars and pre-date Star Wars. Youre just looking to compare the two and call shit on SW

Well, you can argue it inspired Dune, which inturn made Star Wars possible. (If you're going to say Star Wars was possible without Dune, you're talking out of your ass and I win) Also, your reasoning makes no sense: "Swashbuckling has been made between Princess and SW" Why don't you say "Swashbuckling pre-dates Princess"? Oh wait, I think he's got Prometheus syndrome!

(applauds BTW, Star Wars is a mushy safe-story like Avatar).

What? I don't...Are you saying it's as terriblyy cliche as Avatar? At least Star Wars was trying to take a new perspective on an old idea...Avatar was just an old idea, and didn't realize it.

[mecha-gino]

is that frank frazetta's artwork? Cause I'm REALLY loving the look of it.

[Primevalgodzilla V2]

How can John Carter be a rip-off of Star Wars? The novel came out 60 years BEFORE Star Wars (1917 vs 1977).

You've got it backwards, dude. I would say you were being sarcastic, but...well, if you are, it's not funny. At all.

I don't know if you have trouble reading or something....

He said John Carter wasn't a ripoff of Star Wars, and came 60 years before it. And why do you have to get so aggravated over it anyway?

[SoleMan]

How can John Carter be a rip-off of Star Wars? The novel came out 60 years BEFORE Star Wars (1917 vs 1977).

You've got it backwards, dude. I would say you were being sarcastic, but...well, if you are, it's not funny. At all.

I don't know if you have trouble reading or something....

He said John Carter wasn't a ripoff of Star Wars, and came 60 years before it. And why do you have to get so aggravated over it anyway?

Well, for one he said I didn't know what I was talking about, and two, because I f*cking love John Carter! Look at that image up ahead, how can you not instantly fall in love with something so awesome? It's a shame there won't be a sequel, because we'll never get to see the plan-men (The blue guys, if you don't know) which were some of the coolest aliens, ever.

[Gorosaurus Rex]

To be honest, when one thinks about it, Disney has no one but themselves to blame for this film's flop. First off, who approved the massive budget on this thing? The concept of a John Carter film is already sort of risky, so what studio head decided to throw about $300 million at the film before making a testament to its quality.

Second, they marketed this thing all wrong. Most of the trailers, while neat, really gave the general audience no idea what this film was about. It looked like an Avatar rip off or Prince of Persia, and the general concept of the film was barely mentioned. Again, Disney had already approved such a huge ass budget for this film, why didn't they at least take the time to make sure they marketed this thing well?

[HayesAJones]

Second, they marketed this thing all wrong. Most of the trailers, while neat, really gave the general audience no idea what this film was about.

This. I hated the trailers. They looked like every big movie from the last year or so smashed together.

[wataru]

Second, they marketed this thing all wrong. Most of the trailers, while neat, really gave the general audience no idea what this film was about.

This. I hated the trailers. They looked like every big movie from the last year or so smashed together.

Hey at least yall saw trailers. I never saw a trailer for this film. I just saw a movie poster with COMING SOON above it at the cheap theatre.

[Rody]

Would someone please answer my question from the previous page?

Now that the movie's out on DVD, I'm getting a little curious again. Should I give the books a second chance, and then watch the movie - or should I go straight to the movie?

[wataru]

Ive not seen the movie, but Id recommend the books over ANY movie.

Read the books, get some understand of what's supposed to be going on and fit the movie-mess into it.

[GojiFan]

Ive not seen the movie, but Id recommend the books over ANY movie.

Read the books, get some understand of what's supposed to be going on and fit the movie-mess into it.

This is very good advice. I really can't think of any scenario where the books were worse than the movie. The only one I think is even arguable is the original Jurassic Park

[wataru]

Jurassic Park is odd... I liked both, but the book was like an epic, where the movie was an adventure.

Crichton's work doesnt always translate well. Sphere is an amazing book but the movie is horrible. Eaters of the Dead is both a good book and movie. Andromeda Strain was an amazing (yet dated). The movie is dated as hell and the remake is epic shit. Im hoping Pirate Latitudes is good (movie). The book was lackluster.

[SuperSaiyan4Godzilla]

Jurassic Park is odd... I liked both, but the book was like an epic, where the movie was an adventure.

Crichton's work doesnt always translate well. Sphere is an amazing book but the movie is horrible. Eaters of the Dead is both a good book and movie. Andromeda Strain was an amazing (yet dated). The movie is dated as hell and the remake is epic shit. Im hoping Pirate Latitudes is good (movie). The book was lackluster.

Jesus Christ, Jurassic Park (le book) was horrible compared to the film. Nearly ever character in the novel were unbearable.

[wataru]

Jurassic Park is odd... I liked both, but the book was like an epic, where the movie was an adventure.

Crichton's work doesnt always translate well. Sphere is an amazing book but the movie is horrible. Eaters of the Dead is both a good book and movie. Andromeda Strain was an amazing (yet dated). The movie is dated as hell and the remake is epic shit. Im hoping Pirate Latitudes is good (movie). The book was lackluster.

Jesus Christ, Jurassic Park (le book) was horrible compared to the film. Nearly ever character in the novel were unbearable.

The novel wasnt meant to be an adventure film. Jurassic Park the movie barely resembles the novel. Most of Crichton's work gets a heavy make over for film. Is the movie better? Sure, because it's an adventure film. The novel is more like an Animal Planet special.

[SoleMan]

Ive not seen the movie, but Id recommend the books over ANY movie.

Read the books, get some understand of what's supposed to be going on and fit the movie-mess into it.

This is very good advice. I really can't think of any scenario where the books were worse than the movie. The only one I think is even arguable is the original Jurassic Park

I prefer the novel to the film, and I've come up with some movies better than the book:
MASH
The Exorcist
The Planet of the Apes
American Pyscho (Maybe, I really didn't like either of them)
The Silence of the Lambs

I whole heartdly disagree with the below, but I've noticed these are movies that the pretenious society says are better than the books: (Only those I've read)
Jaws (Used to be my all-time favorite)
The Godfather
Pyscho
2001: A Space Odyssey (The book was kinda based on the movie, but I like it better)
A Clockwork Orange
Blade Runner
First Blood
V for Vendetta (Comic book, still counts)


I've noticed that if a movie is pretty popular, you never hear about the book. If the book is popular, the movie is lost to the masses. Hurm...

[mecha-gino]

So anyone feel like answering my question from the page before? I'm REALLY loving that art.

[DaikaijuSokogeki!]

Just saw this on Blu-Ray a while back and I'm really disappointed it bombed. It's far FAR from an awful film and although there is zero chemistry between John and the princess, it's still really good fun. This film is the ultimate example of how bad marketing can totally buttfuck a pretty good film.

Gotta say, between this and Battleship, Taylor Kitsch's Hollywood career is finished. Both movies bombing had nothing to do with him, but you know how execs will blame anyone except themselves for a movie's failure.

[Hellspawn28]

Ive not seen the movie, but Id recommend the books over ANY movie.

Read the books, get some understand of what's supposed to be going on and fit the movie-mess into it.

This is very good advice.

Sometimes when I see a movie, I don't read the book that the movie is based on since I feel like adaptation should always stand on it's own for both fans and non fans. For example, I never read The Godfather but I loved the movie. Same with movies based on TV shows like Star Trek and Ultraman. I like Star Trek I-IV when I only seen very little of the original show.

[wataru]

Ok I sat down and watched John Carter...

I liked it. The feel of the film wasnt 100% spot on to the novel but it was close.

The problem with this film? It's over 2 hours long and it doesnt take any time to explain The Beams, Mars technology or really give any background to Carter, Dejah or Tars Tarkas. I can see why fans DIDNT like this, it was basically "HEY LOOK AT DIS!" with little actual story depth.

But oddly, the film had a more Indiana Jones film feel over KotCS.

Personally: 3.8/5
Critically: 2/5

[Gojira1963]

Ok I sat down and watched John Carter...

I liked it. The feel of the film wasnt 100% spot on to the novel but it was close.

The problem with this film? It's over 2 hours long and it doesnt take any time to explain The Beams, Mars technology or really give any background to Carter, Dejah or Tars Tarkas. I can see why fans DIDNT like this, it was basically "HEY LOOK AT DIS!" with little actual story depth.

But oddly, the film had a more Indiana Jones film feel over KotCS.

Personally: 3.8/5
Critically: 2/5

I liked the film a lot too. I have not read the books but am similar with he story. My problem was that the ending seemed too rushed. But otherwise I really liked the movie.

[kaiju115]

I'm thinking about getting this movie on Blu ray.