Added in 38 seconds:Godzilla21 wrote:And being a parent is the opposite of selfish. Those children become your life and you devote almost every waking moment to them. The concept of "self" was lost to me 2 1/2 years ago. My life is now in service of my daughter and incoming son. Not me.
Zarm wrote:I also don't see any inherent selfishness- rather, parenthood is very much an active giving. Of taking lives that were previously focused on yourself and yielding your time, energy, money, emotions, had a great deal of effort into another person.
Raising and caring for the child is unselfish, but that's not what I was referring too; I was referring to the decision to have the child in the first place.
Anyway, this is something that I only discussed reluctantly. Sharing these attitudes makes me deeply uncomfortable. I thought I made it clear in my post that literally the only point that ultimately matters is that Jenn and I have no reason to have kids, and thus it's not a choice not to do so, it is simply the absence of a choice to do so. There's no reason for the conversation to go any further than that, and I'm sorry I said anything else on the subject.
