Maritonic wrote:The only, only thing, I'm going to say about all this is: I don't understand why we should be okay with an FBI investigation that deliberately ignores all possible options. They didn't interview core people involved, relevant to the accusations. It's an incomplete investigation.
Is it guilty? I don't know. Is he innocent? I don't know. The whole thing is horrible.
I know that is the claim. I would be interested to know exactly who was relevant to the claims and wasn't interviewed, and whether that is because- like the third accuser- the FBI did not deem their testimony credible enough to investigate, or whether there was an actual limitation going on there. Right now, there's so much hearsay about what was or wasn't investigated, I have yet to hear any facts. Just partisan Republican sources claiming it was thorough (no details) and partisan Democrat sources claiming it was incomplete (no detail).
And of course, the upcoming elections don't help; the Democrats are transparently trying to delay the vote until their anticipated turnover in November, and the Republicans are trying to push it through while they still have control, and the investigation- like the vote itself- is undoubtedly a casualty of each side's attempts to manipulate the timetable, just as much as the hearings are a casualty of everyone's attempts to achieve their political goal.
It is indeed horrible. And the worst part is, there is enough doubt- and always will be, no matter what subsequent investigations are launched- that both Ford and Kavanaugh
will be haunted by this the rest of their lives. Whether Kavanaugh goes to the Supreme court or his career goes down in flames, there will always be protestors and politicians who call him a sexual predator to his face, that stand against anything he does, that hound and harass him. And whether her testimony is confirmed or discredited, there will always be protestors and politicians who call Dr. Ford a liar and a stooge to her face, who stand against anything she does, that hound and harass her. We're past the point of proving anything beyond a shadow of anyone's doubt; people are too entrenched; they'll just pull out conspiracy theories to cover any salient points the other side makes and keep believing what they've chosen to believe, and these two people will have the rest of their lives marked by it, regardless of outcome. Which is atrocious.
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UltramanGoji wrote:His tantrum at that hearing spoke for itself.
I really don't get that. At all. Everyone is going after a man whose career is on the verge of the highest pinnacle it can possibly reach, under the scrutiny of a national microscope, and claims that he is being falsely accused of a heinous crime that is categorically untrue, getting worked up over his innocence. That makes no sense.
I know that if someone came out and accused me of rape, with the potential to destroy my career, my reputation, and my life, I would sure as heck get worked up in defending myself; I would certainly be angry and tearful and upset if half the country thought I was a monster because of blind-siding accusations of horrific acts that I completely didn't deserve. (Now, if he's guilty and it's all an act, fine; but it's the way an innocent man in that incredibly-horrific position, which is either what he is or what he's pretending to be, would act! What do people want out of him- Vulcan stoicism as his entire life, and everything that he's worked for for decades, potentially unravels before his eyes, his name is vilified, his character impugned, before the entire watching nation, and he's called upon to defend himself? Whether it's the truth of who he is, or merely how he's portraying himself... what do people honestly, realistically expect out of a human being in that position?)