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[MandaSaurus]

Oh God, don't get me started on Taco Bell, which was founded in California by a white guy named Bell! It just kills me, that there are SCORES of people out there who actually think that Taco Bell is MEXICAN food! The horror, the horror...

[Kiryu2012]

Wildfires are going on in my homeland:
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

[Spirit Ghidorah 2010]

3 white nationalists arrested for attempted homicide after firing at group protesting against Richard Spencer

[ShinGi]

Another mass shooting with 20+ dead

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/05/us/te ... index.html

[Cybermat47]

Another mass shooting with 20+ dead

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/05/us/te ... index.html

For fuck’s sake... are background checks and mental healthcare really that difficult, America?

[MandaSaurus]

Another mass shooting with 20+ dead

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/05/us/te ... index.html

For skreeonk’s sake... are background checks and mental healthcare really that difficult, America?

In this case, they DIDN'T work. The weapons the shooter used were NOT purchased legally, by him. GUN control is not PEOPLE control...

And it could have been WORSE. The shooter was chased from the scene by a parishioner who ran and grabbed his own rifle outside. The pursuer then jumped into a passing motorist's vehicle, and they chased the gunman. 11 miles away, the gunman crashed into a ditch, dead from a gunshot wound. Police arrived a few minutes later...

[Cybermat47]

Another mass shooting with 20+ dead

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/05/us/te ... index.html

For skreeonk’s sake... are background checks and mental healthcare really that difficult, America?

In this case, they DIDN'T work. The weapons the shooter used were NOT purchased legally, by him. GUN control is not PEOPLE control...

And it could have been WORSE. The shooter was chased from the scene by a parishioner who ran and grabbed his own rifle outside. The pursuer then jumped into a passing motorist's vehicle, and they chased the gunman. 11 miles away, the gunman crashed into a ditch, dead from a gunshot wound. Police arrived a few minutes later...

Who said anything about gun comtrol? Background checks help stop criminals from legally purchasing guns, and mental healthcare would help get the mentally ill the aid they need, rather than leaving them in a situation where they can harm others, be it with a gun, knife, or car.

I have no problem with mentally sound, law abiding citizens owning as many firearms as they want.

[UltramanGoji]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/06/us/t ... hurch.html

You. Have got. To be. Kidding me.

[SpaceG92]

Who said anything about gun comtrol?

Literally everyone going on scree right now about it.

Background checks help stop criminals from legally purchasing guns-

True - but what about those who passed the background check? Sure these thing's help but let's be real here. If you want to get a gun, and one that is BETTER then what is sold publicly - you can and will.

and mental healthcare would help get the mentally ill the aid they need, rather than leaving them in a situation where they can harm others, be it with a gun, knife, or car.

Again - if they want to harm someone they can and will. They don't need a gun. It's just a very effective tool to a basic end. Might as well cut off their hands, feet, pull their teeth and pad their body. All of that can be used to effectively kill a person. Not as easily - but at this point i'm kinda going off topic.

[Cybermat47]

True - but what about those who passed the background check? Sure these thing's help but let's be real here. If you want to get a gun, and one that is BETTER then what is sold publicly - you can and will.

There’s always going to be some people who get through, yes, but a background check would help make sure that almost everyone who purchases a gun will use it responsibly.We have background checks in Australia, so when I’m in a room full of 14 year olds with rifles, I don’t feel at risk at all.

Again - if they want to harm someone they can and will. They don't need a gun. It's just a very effective tool to a basic end. Might as well cut off their hands, feet, pull their teeth and pad their body. All of that can be used to effectively kill a person. Not as easily - but at this point i'm kinda going off topic.

I agree. Effective mental healthcare would be more effective than a gun ban, because if someone crazy enough to want to murder people receives effective care at a hospital, they’re less likely to be able to kill at all.

[Beef Bigshot]

I love the talk about getting people the "mental help they need." It's always such a vague and barely understood statement that people casually throw about as if it adds validity to whatever they are saying.

Also don't we already have background checks in place if you want to buy a gun in the US? To my knowledge they are already pretty strict and you can get shot down (no pun intended) for ridiculous shit that you have no control over

[ShinGi]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 41996.html

Syria signs Paris Agreement - leaving US the only country in the world to refuse climate change deal

[MandaSaurus]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 41996.html

Syria signs Paris Agreement - leaving US the only country in the world to refuse climate change deal

Check 'Weather History of the World' - the Earth's climate has ALWAYS changed over time. It warms up, it cools off. It's what it DOES, on it's own. The Mount St. Helens/Icelandic volcano eruptions put more crap into the atmosphere than us humans have in the last 150 years! The whole Global Warming thing is a scam, perpetrated by the Socialist Left, nothing more. Y'all forgot about that Climate-gate thing a few years ago? ANY scientist, will say ANYTHING you want him/her to say, if you're funding their research...

[Spirit Ghidorah 2010]

Check 'Weather History of the World' - the Earth's climate has ALWAYS changed over time. It warms up, it cools off. It's what it DOES, on it's own.

True, but those cycles happened over millions of years. The difference between then and now is that now the changes are happening at a sharply increased rate. Far more rapid than previous naturally occurring cycles, and that screws up the ability to for the environment to compensate (see also, the magnitude of ocean acidification going on).

Saying that humans aren't causing climate change because "climate has always changed" is like saying that a murder victim couldn't have been murdered because people have always died from natural causes in the past.

The Mount St. Helens/Icelandic volcano eruptions put more crap into the atmosphere than us humans have in the last 150 years!

False. The Mount St. Helens explosion put at most 10 million tons of CO2 into the atmosphere. Even excluding Mount St. Helens, the total emissions from volcanoes totals ~260 million tons. In comparison, human fuel consumption releases 36 billion tons of emissions into the atmosphere. The disruption in atmospheric carbon-isotope ratios (more carbon from burning fossil fuels in comparison to naturally occurring carbon) also supports that.

I mean, yeah, volcanoes can and do have drastic effects on climate change, but the last time that happened was, like, during the Triassic-Jurrassic extinction event.

Y'all forgot about that Climate-gate thing a few years ago?

That was debunked years ago. By the Science & Technology Committee in the UK's House of Commons. By the University of East Anglia. By Penn State. By the EPA. And by the US Department of Commerce.

ANY scientist, will say ANYTHING you want him/her to say, if you're funding their research...

1) That argument swings both ways, considering how Exxon and other fossil fuel companies tried to use funds to spread climate denial misinformation for years, despite knowing that climate change was real in the first place.

2) You can't use funding to bias what a paper says in the scientific community. That's one of the most basic conflicts of interests that scientific journals screen for when a paper/proposal is submitted.

3) If the Socialist Left (whatever that's supposed to mean) are really funding climate change science, it's clearly not much compared to other fields.

4) You'd earn far more money and recognition if you went against the consensus, providing your research and data actually holds up. As an admittedly bad example, just look at Andrew Wakefield, the dude who started the whole "vaccines are harmful and cause autism" bullshit. He's still somehow able to rake in fame and money even now, despite losing his medical license and having his hogwash paper retracted. Shitty example, sure, but goes to show that funding and fame is a pretty crappy incentive for pushing the consensus.

[MandaSaurus]

^ MILLIONS of years? lol Apparently you haven't heard about something a LOT more recent, called the 'Little Ice Age'? Honestly, I forget about when it started( somewhere between 400 and 800 AD, I believe )but it ended about the time the Renaissance started up( 1400s ). A period of global cooling.

'Debunked' by the EPA and Department of Commerce under OBAMA - a Leftist. Penn State - Leftist school. University of East Anglia - ditto. UK? Pretty left-wing govt. these days. So, sorry if I don't consider ANY of these sources impartial...

You ARE aware that the science behind how much stuff goes into the atmosphere from a volcanic eruption is NOT as precise as standing on a bathroom scale, yes? A lot of projecting and guess-timating goes into it, hence the figures can be played with - a little OR a lot. Depending on which way you want those figures to swing...

Sometimes the 'facts' are not as solid as they appear to be...

And as a Med Student, you are learning about anatomy( so that you can remove organs, etc.)and prescribing drugs, but you will also - at the behest of the govt. & big business - receive erroneous and outdated information on subjects like cancer and nutrition. Just sayin'...

[Spirit Ghidorah 2010]

^ MILLIONS of years? lol Apparently you haven't heard about something a LOT more recent, called the 'Little Ice Age'? Honestly, I forget about when it started( somewhere between 400 and 800 AD, I believe )but it ended about the time the Renaissance started up( 1400s ). A period of global cooling.

I'm glad you mentioned the LIA because it actually reinforces my original point. There were several reasons for the LIA, which included decreased solar activity, increased atmospheric ashes, and Gulf Stream circulation anomalies brought on from fresh water introduced by Greenland. However, in the past 50 years or so, there have been no significant changes in any of those factors, yet global temperatures are still rising at an accelerated rate. Therefore, when you take the LIA into account, this recent rise in temperature cannot be from natural causes.

Debunked' by the EPA and Department of Commerce under OBAMA - a Leftist. Penn State - Leftist school. University of East Anglia - ditto. UK? Pretty left-wing govt. these days. So, sorry if I don't consider ANY of these sources impartial...

If you're just going to discount universities, Cabinet departments, and even entire countries simply based on the notion of "They're associated with liberals and therefore wrong", well, then I can't help you in that regard.

You ARE aware that the science behind how much stuff goes into the atmosphere from a volcanic eruption is NOT as precise as standing on a bathroom scale, yes?

Quite the contrary. Our ability to measure emissions, natural or otherwise, is extremely accurate. It's not like we're trapping the stuff in a balloon and weighing it or something. We've been using multiple techniques, both atmospheric and ground based, such as air sampling, rock sampling, satellite-based spectrometry, dendrochronology, LIDAR, etc. I highly suggest you check NOAA's and USGS's websites just to see how much work goes into measuring emissions.

A lot of projecting and guess-timating goes into it, hence the figures can be played with - a little OR a lot. Depending on which way you want those figures to swing...

If emission measurements are as shaky as you claim they are, then on what basis can you assert that volcanoes create more emissions than 150 years of human activity???

[Demon Lord Gira]

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/20 ... as-40.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/16/arts ... venit.html

Hollywood is burning down, burning down, burning down...

Hollywood is burning down, to the damn ground.

[UltimateDitto]

Sounds like these "victims" just want a slice of the "this famous person is a predator" pie.

[RamshackleRanger]

Sounds like these "victims" just want a slice of the "this famous person is a predator" pie.

I mean... I wouldn't be sure. IIRC, hollywood has been known as kind of a cesspool of this shit for a long time. Of course we should never judge based on just one or two allegations, Innocent until proven guilty should always prevail, but we can't let our love for these figures cloud our judgement either.

[UltimateDitto]

Sounds like these "victims" just want a slice of the "this famous person is a predator" pie.

I mean... I wouldn't be sure. IIRC, hollywood has been known as kind of a cesspool of this Hedorah for a long time. Of course we should never judge based on just one or two allegations, Innocent until proven guilty should always prevail, but we can't let our love for these figures cloud our judgement either.

You are absolutely correct!