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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby Gorosaurus Rex » Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:55 am

wataru wrote:The Phoenix arrives but instead of taking over Hope, it takes over Cyclops, Colossus/Juggernaut, Emma, Magik and Namor and they look HORRID. I mean like 1991 comic book Japanese style outfit horrid. J Romita Jr's artwork inside is just BAD.

And this shit is only about half over! NOOOOO!


Hey, atleast you get a switch in artist now. Copiel I believe?
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby wataru » Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:25 am

I feel so bad that his skill has gone so down hill in the past 20 years.

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So Im debating whether I want to tackle Fear Itself or not. SEIGE was very stand alone. You dont even need to books outside the hardcover collected and Thor: Seige. But Fear Itself is just insane. Over 125 books. About 26 TPBs not even all printed yet....

I love Thor, but alot of this series I dont think needs to be read. Has anyone read it?
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby mecha-gino » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:14 pm

Well those that are hoping that Thanos would die or turn out to be a fake in the new avengers issue will be sadden that it is the real deal and he's getting two new series.... Both written by his creator Jim Starlin!? Huh... Maybe it won't be so bad after all.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby Gorosaurus Rex » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:15 am

Any reasons why that is? Sorry, I don't read much Marvel cosmic. Does this contradict what happened in the recent books?
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby wataru » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:15 am

Gorosaurus Rex wrote:Any reasons why that is? Sorry, I don't read much Marvel cosmic. Does this contradict what happened in the recent books?


I dont understand what he's saying. But with Thanos being in the end of The Avengers, its logically that Marvel would go ape-shit and spam him up. They did it with Thor and Iron Man.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby mecha-gino » Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:37 pm

Gorosaurus Rex wrote:Any reasons why that is? Sorry, I don't read much Marvel cosmic. Does this contradict what happened in the recent books?

Well I'm told the Thanos imperative or whatever had a satisfying ending and ended Thanos for good and ended on a good note... Until this came out of the blue and people are kind of ticked by that.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby Bentley » Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:38 pm

Do yourself a favor and read FF instead of AvX or AA.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby mecha-gino » Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:42 pm

Bentley wrote:Do yourself a favor and read FF instead of AvX or AA.

I haven't read either avengers book, BUT GOD YES WITH FANTASTIC FOUR AND FUTURE FOUNDATION!!!
I loooove what hickman has done with the team and has really made me into a big FF fan. Hoping to read the second volume of future foundation too. Oh btw, I love spidey being on the FF INFINITELY more then him being an avenger and I love that new costume!

However since Hickman and I think Matt fraction are writing issues of AvX,I'm kind of interested in reading them AND with the rumor one of the two will take over avengers once Bendis' nearly ten year reign of mediocrity is over, I look forward to checking out avengers again course I hear that means fraction will be off iron man which do not want as he's great with tony. But I'm also curious now who will write the FF once Hickman leaves.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby wataru » Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:51 pm

Bentley wrote:Do yourself a favor and read Thor instead of AvX or AA.


Fixed.

I agree on AvsX and AA. Both books are HIGHLY overrated. AvsX is EXTREMELY shallow. I mean 6 issues in and theyve pretty much done away with the Phoenix destroying worlds like Galactus after a marijuana binge.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby Gorosaurus Rex » Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:30 pm

AA being Avengers Assemble or Avengers Academy? Because I've heard Academy is really good.

There are way too many Marvel books I want to read at the moment. It's getting ridiculous. There goes my money... -_-
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby mecha-gino » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:25 pm

Gorosaurus Rex wrote:AA being Avengers Assemble or Avengers Academy? Because I've heard Academy is really good.

There are way too many Marvel books I want to read at the moment. It's getting ridiculous. There goes my money... -_-

Assemble as that's the more relevant one and it's written by Bendis plus we're talking about Thanos and he appears in it.

And have you ever thought of going to your local library and see if they have any of the books you desire? Pretty much all of my comic book reads come from them now.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby wataru » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:10 pm

Avengers Academy ISNT that good. It tries REAL hard to be The Runaways meets Teen Titans with a string of 2nd rate wannabe hero kids.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby Bentley » Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:38 pm

wataru wrote:
Bentley wrote:Do yourself a favor and read Thor instead of AvX or AA.


Fixed.

I agree on AvsX and AA. Both books are HIGHLY overrated. AvsX is EXTREMELY shallow. I mean 6 issues in and theyve pretty much done away with the Phoenix destroying worlds like Galactus after a marijuana binge.



Haven't been reading much Thor aside from the recent Annual -which was good-, but Fantastic Four is still quite the better book imo. It may be the best ongoing on the shelves right now, fun book, well written.

And about the Academy, its sort of good, not a master piece but at a certain point it was the only decent Avengers book out there.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby wataru » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:57 am

Fantastic Four is good, I will give you that but you gotta know it ran for YEARS and was horrible.

Thor is an AMAZING book (minus two arcs - The Secret Invasion arc and The World Eaters). It's totally stand alone. Im upto the Fear Itself arc and each arc is just perfect. The Galactus Seed - the banter between Silver Surfer and Thor was classic.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby Bentley » Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:00 am

FF might've been bad for years, but the last two or three years it has been consistently one of the best books Marvel has been putting out.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby wataru » Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:03 am

Bentley wrote:FF might've been bad for years, but the last two or three years it has been consistently one of the best books Marvel has been putting out.


So has Thor.

But almost all Avengers books have been mediocre to crap. The characterizations of all the Avengers in AvsX makes you cringe. JMS reinvented Thor in 2007 and now he's in space acting like a turd with apparently 1/10th his power getting drunk with Valkeryie? Pfft no.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby Gorosaurus Rex » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:03 am

I've heard some of the Secret Avengers stuff is pretty great. I'm really excited to read the rest of Secret Warriors and get started on Venom and Uncanny X-force both sound great from what I've read and heard.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby wataru » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:44 am

Gorosaurus Rex wrote:I've heard some of the Secret Avengers stuff is pretty great. I'm really excited to read the rest of Secret Warriors and get started on Venom and Uncanny X-force both sound great from what I've read and heard.


Secret Avengers was good up until it was rebooted. But it wasnt enough IMHO to warrant a flagship title.

Venom has been surprisingly good. Ive not read it but I hear good things but X-Force has been freakin' stellar.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby Gorosaurus Rex » Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:42 pm

Isn't Secret Avengers currently being written by the writer of Venom and X-Force though? That's piqued my interest.
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Re: Marvel comics discussion

Postby mecha-gino » Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:08 pm

Gorosaurus Rex wrote:Isn't Secret Avengers currently being written by the writer of Venom and X-Force though? That's piqued my interest.

Maaaybe. If I remember right, it was Jonthan Hickman who started writing secret avengers and still is or am I thinking Warren Ellis?
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