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Re: Your Religous Views

Postby SuperSaiyan4Godzilla » Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:45 am

TheSecondComing wrote:High schools are literally filled to the brim with stupid, phony, immature little jackoffs who haven't figured out any of life's lessons and have only adopted their parent's life philosophies. I've been out of high school since 2005 and there's one person I met there that I talk to a frequent basis.

Don't let kids rile you too much, they don't know better yet.


High schools are also riddled with stupid, phony, immature little jackoffs who think atheism is the way because its diametrically opposed to their parent's philosophies. And most of them think atheism = science, not the lack of a belief.
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Re: Your Religous Views

Postby TheSecondComing » Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:43 am

SuperSaiyan4Godzilla wrote:
TheSecondComing wrote:High schools are literally filled to the brim with stupid, phony, immature little jackoffs who haven't figured out any of life's lessons and have only adopted their parent's life philosophies. I've been out of high school since 2005 and there's one person I met there that I talk to a frequent basis.

Don't let kids rile you too much, they don't know better yet.


High schools are also riddled with stupid, phony, immature little jackoffs who think atheism is the way because its diametrically opposed to their parent's philosophies. And most of them think atheism = science, not the lack of a belief.



Atheism can be inherited from parents too, or kids can pick up religious belief because it's diametrically opposed to their parent's philosophies. Point is, high school is full of people with partially-formed intellect and you shouldn't take them seriously especially because most of them aren't going to be there after graduation day.
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Re: Your Religous Views

Postby SuperSaiyan4Godzilla » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:58 am

TheSecondComing wrote:

Atheism can be inherited from parents too, or kids can pick up religious belief because it's diametrically opposed to their parent's philosophies. Point is, high school is full of people with partially-formed intellect and you shouldn't take them seriously especially because most of them aren't going to be there after graduation day.



Or even make it to graduation day.

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Re: Your Religous Views

Postby Cimmerian Dragon » Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:35 am

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Re: Your Religous Views

Postby king_ghidorah » Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:15 am

I personally think Deism is the way to go. It's Christianity but without all the BS and aversion to common sense and science. It was good enough for the founding fathers, good enough for me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism
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Re: Your Religous Views

Postby Jomei » Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:47 pm

Deism is just beta version atheism.
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Re: Your Religous Views

Postby omgitsgodzilla » Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:09 pm

See, now I'm afraid to throw in two cents because I'm in high school. ._.
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Re: Your Religous Views

Postby kaiju_wars » Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:12 pm

omgitsgodzilla wrote:See, now I'm afraid to throw in two cents because I'm in high school. ._.


Throw in your two cents. It won't hurt anyone, all in all, it will come down to just some people talking smack over the internet, but hey, just stick by your morals and values.
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Re: Your Religous Views

Postby king_ghidorah » Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:19 pm

Jomei wrote:Deism is just beta version atheism.


I don't suscribe to all of the thoughts about Deism. I'm more of a follower of the now defunct school of Transcendentalism myself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendentalism

or Church of Divine Science if you like

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_Science

Now, I do take issues with the statement Beta Atheism because that would mean test phase, or trial period while in my case the opposite is true. I was an atheist and this stuff seems like a good mixture between faith and science. Not taking the bible as a literal, historical/ scientific text is a plus too.
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Re: Your Religous Views

Postby HikizuruBeat » Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:24 pm

I'm agnostic because I'm open to both there is nothing in the end, but there's a possibility a higher power exists.
Also I don't care for organized religion, but hey if people have a specific religion they really believe in then that's great for them just don't cram your ideas and beliefs down my throat if I don't want to hear it. :-o
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Re: Your Religous Views

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:06 pm

omgitsgodzilla wrote:See, now I'm afraid to throw in two cents because I'm in high school. ._.


Not everyone in high school is bad. I dunno about others, but about 20% of my school's population are perfectly likeable people. The rest are either one of 4 things:

1. Popular kids, but complete jerks.
2. Unpopular kids, but complete jerks.
3. The 'bad' kids. (You know what I'm talking about.)
4. And lastly, the really, really, really weird ones. Good gravy, I mean REALLY weird. As in "watching Bugs Bunny porn in the school library at lunch hour" kind of weird. (Yes, that was a real example. And boy, do I have more!)

I don't really have a whole lot of religious nuts in my school. Not enough to make a fifth category anyway.
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Re: Your Religous Views

Postby omgitsgodzilla » Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:12 pm

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omgitsgodzilla wrote:See, now I'm afraid to throw in two cents because I'm in high school. ._.


Not everyone in high school is bad. I dunno about others, but about 20% of my school's population are perfectly likeable people. The rest are either one of 4 things:

1. Popular kids, but complete jerks.
2. Unpopular kids, but complete jerks.
3. The 'bad' kids. (You know what I'm talking about.)
4. And lastly, the really, really, really weird ones. Good gravy, I mean REALLY weird. As in "watching Bugs Bunny porn in the school library at lunch hour" kind of weird. (Yes, that was a real example. And boy, do I have more!)

I don't really have a whole lot of religious nuts in my school. Not enough to make a fifth category anyway.

Ironically, the "bad" kids are some of the best friends I've ever had. When you get to know them, the people society calls "bad" can be some of the truest, kindest and most beautiful people around, really.
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Re: Your Religous Views

Postby SuperSaiyan4Godzilla » Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:18 pm

Jomei wrote:Deism is just beta version atheism.


Well, Deism is a lot like Eastern schools of thought when it comes to the Divine and such...

So...not really?
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Re: Your Religous Views

Postby king_ghidorah » Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:21 pm

SuperSaiyan4Godzilla wrote:
Jomei wrote:Deism is just beta version atheism.


Well, Deism is a lot like Eastern schools of thought when it comes to the Divine and such...

So...not really?



Yeah. And as far as my personal beliefs...I guess I don't really adhere to any one school of thought. I take a little bit from Deism, Christianity and some of the Eastern religions too. Works for me.
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Re: Your Religous Views

Postby Jomei » Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:49 pm

SuperSaiyan4Godzilla wrote:
Jomei wrote:Deism is just beta version atheism.


Well, Deism is a lot like Eastern schools of thought when it comes to the Divine and such...

So...not really?


It totally is. The core deistic belief is that God created the world, set the laws of nature into motion, and then backed off, basically never interfering again. That's one step away from atheism, and the more we understand about nature the less possible it is to infer "design."

Deism was a cool school of thought back in the Enlightenment period. Freethinkers these days--thanks to philosophers such as Hume and Kant, breakthroughs in science, and the growing dominance of naturalism/materialism--have moved past deism to agnosticism/atheism, which is what I meant by the "beta atheism" remark. Granted, deism isn't totally dead, and some people hold beliefs that are along the deistic lines.
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Re: Your Religous Views

Postby Genoliger » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:22 pm

Right now I consider my self a agnostic erring more on the side of atheism. The problem though with that is that pisses my mom off greatly. She's a deeply religious Christian. Gets tiring arguing with her about religion. She thinks thats people who don't believe in god are all murderers and the like. Tried to tell her different and she just gave me a funny look.
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Re: Your Religous Views

Postby GojiFan » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:27 pm

Ask her if that makes you a murderer. Then one of the two will happen:

A) She says you aren't, and has an epiphany on people's religion or lack there of.
B) She says yes, and then you realize your mother is the religious psycho most people stereotype.
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Re: Your Religous Views

Postby SuperSaiyan4Godzilla » Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:04 am

Jomei wrote:
It totally is. The core deistic belief is that God created the world, set the laws of nature into motion, and then backed off, basically never interfering again. That's one step away from atheism, and the more we understand about nature the less possible it is to infer "design."

Deism was a cool school of thought back in the Enlightenment period. Freethinkers these days--thanks to philosophers such as Hume and Kant, breakthroughs in science, and the growing dominance of naturalism/materialism--have moved past deism to agnosticism/atheism, which is what I meant by the "beta atheism" remark. Granted, deism isn't totally dead, and some people hold beliefs that are along the deistic lines.


Deism does have some interesting spin offs, though. In Gnostic beliefs, you have a being named Demiurge. There is Yahweh, the creator, he essentially created the Universe and you have Demiurge, who shaped the Universe. Funny enough, Demiurge is also a malevolent being and often thought to have been the God in the Old Testament.

Deism does not rule out of the belief in other higher beings, its just rules out the belief that the Supreme Creator interferes with life.

Genoliger wrote:Right now I consider my self a agnostic erring more on the side of atheism. The problem though with that is that pisses my mom off greatly. She's a deeply religious Christian. Gets tiring arguing with her about religion. She thinks thats people who don't believe in god are all murderers and the like. Tried to tell her different and she just gave me a funny look.


That's when you ignore her.
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Re: Your Religous Views

Postby SaiyanRider54 » Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:44 pm

Cimmerian Dragon wrote:Listen, whether you're an atheist or a person of faith, all I care about is how you treat other people, and how you conduct yourself through life. You can be a good person who believes in God, or a good person who does not. The converse is also true.

Anyone who judges you based upon anything other than your actions is a fool. That's the key ideal that the United States was founded on, but it seems to be the one people forget most often.


This is what I go by.
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Re: Your Religous Views

Postby SuperSaiyan4Godzilla » Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:23 pm

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