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Re: Godzilla Island Series Figures

Postby Legion1979 » Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:34 pm

JVM wrote:Legion, would you be able to answer why KC, MKG and certain figures are higher in price than those such as Godzilla and Anguirus, despite similar (although not exact) release histories?


I have no idea when it comes to Mechaghidora, but King Seesar was only released twice.
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Re: Godzilla Island Series Figures

Postby RedZillaKing » Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:43 pm

I'm sorry- what does that prove about popularity? And I hate to say it but the Ultra monster figures aren't fit to be squeak toys compared to the Godzilla figures being produced at same time. With few exceptions, the 90s Bandai Godzilla figures were Beautiful. Well detailed and very well painted. Compare Golza to Desghidorah. Hell, compare him to Orochi. Gudon to King Kong. Or Gorosaurus.

Its clear where all the talent was focused in the 90s.

And which license do you think was more costly?
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Re: Godzilla Island Series Figures

Postby Legion1979 » Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:04 pm

RedZillaKing wrote:I'm sorry- what does that prove about popularity? And I hate to say it but the Ultra monster figures aren't fit to be squeak toys compared to the Godzilla figures being produced at same time. With few exceptions, the 90s Bandai Godzilla figures were Beautiful. Well detailed and very well painted. Compare Golza to Desghidorah. Hell, compare him to Orochi. Gudon to King Kong. Or Gorosaurus.


Yes, a lot of the Ultramonster figures from the early '90s aren't THAT good. But considering the extreme volume of what Bandai was doing with the Ultra series at that time and how long all of that was kept in production during a time when there weren't even any new Ultra series to tie-in to compared to what was going on with Godzilla (less releases at a larger scale, most tied to newly released movies that were making a lot of money) the quality of those earlier Ultraman toys is pretty understandable. Starting in 1994, Bandai made a point to update weaker sculpts with much better ones. Hell, they're on their third Baltan right now. When Bandai really put effort in their Ultra series, which they did with a larger, hard vinyl Ultraman Powered figures, the results was just as good as anything they were doing with Godzilla, perhaps better.

Regardless of how you want to spin this and use toy quality to show that Bandai cared more about Godzilla than Ultraman, the fact that they've been doing Ultraman toys at ludicrous volumes, with a huge variety of heroes and monsters, updating sculpts when they have to, literally non-stop since 1983 shows that, f@ck yes, does Bandai have a lot of dedication to this line.

Ultraman is far more popular than Godzilla, and has been for a very long time, regardless of what the quality of toys like Baragon and Gorosaurus tells you. As you often say, DEAL WITH IT.

And which license do you think was more costly?


Why the hell does THAT matter?
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Re: Godzilla Island Series Figures

Postby RedZillaKing » Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:15 pm

It matters a lot... if you consider the fact that there are other factors related to how many toys are produced/which risks are taken. Its not just about popularity.

One factor is the cost of the license. Another is whether or not the licensors approve the toy's design. Clearly more was demanded of the Godzilla sculptors. Tsubaraya were probably much more lenient about their figures.

Anyways none of this really satisfies me. Two Toho monsters wouldn't have broken the bank. And to be completely honest, I feel like any classic Showa monsters would've sold relatively well. Bandai wouldn't have been ruined. Their "smart business" (aka professional cowardice) still doesn't make me respect them as Marmit's peer.
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Re: Godzilla Island Series Figures

Postby Legion1979 » Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:46 pm

RedZillaKing wrote:Their "smart business" (aka professional cowardice) still doesn't make me respect them as Marmit's peer.


Do you realize just how ignorant you sound when you say stuff like this?

When when has Bandai EVER been Marmit's peer? "Professional cowardice"? You've gotta be kidding me.
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Re: Godzilla Island Series Figures

Postby RedZillaKing » Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:07 pm

Do you know how fun it is to rattle you? I can almost hear the tears. Just having a bit of fun at your expense. You Bandai wank too hard.

Fact: Varan and Manda's absence leaves to glaring holes in Bandai's lne up.

And you're right-Bandai and Marmit aren't peers. Marmit is peerless.
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Re: Godzilla Island Series Figures

Postby Legion1979 » Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:20 pm

RedZillaKing wrote:Do you know how fun it is to rattle you? I can almost hear the tears. Just having a bit of fun at your expense. You Bandai wank too hard.


So you're flamebaiting me? Very mature,

Fact: Varan and Manda's absence leaves to glaring holes in Bandai's lne up.


So the absence of two relatively minor and obscure Toho monsters literally ruins Bandai's Toho vinyl line for you? Incredible.

And you're right-Bandai and Marmit aren't peers. Marmit is peerless.


I like Marmit too. I've lost count of how many Marmits I've got. But peerless? Stop trying to continue this nonsense by saying things that don't make sense.
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Re: Godzilla Island Series Figures

Postby GreenAiden555 » Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:22 pm

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Good lord, does anyone notice a correlation?

I wish the MKG was a tad bit bigger, because then I'd consider buying it.
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Re: Godzilla Island Series Figures

Postby RedZillaKing » Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:26 pm

Please. You were flamebaiting the other day with your SHM fans are hypnotized BS. I love when you play high and mighty.
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Re: Godzilla Island Series Figures

Postby Rody » Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:38 pm

I have several of these figures. If I'm reading Club Tokyo correctly, these are the versions:

Anguirus (first release)
Destoroyah (Movie Monsters release)
King Ghidorah (Movie Monsters release)
Mogera (Movie Monsters release)
Mechagodzilla (Movie Monsters release)
Spacegodzilla (first release)


Although these figures are pretty good overall, I think all of them (except MG & Mogera) need to be redone.
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Re: Godzilla Island Series Figures

Postby Legion1979 » Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:44 pm

Rody wrote:I have several of these figures. If I'm reading Club Tokyo correctly, these are the versions:

Anguirus (first release)
Destoroyah (Movie Monsters release)
King Ghidorah (Movie Monsters release)
Mogera (Movie Monsters release)
Mechagodzilla (Movie Monsters release)
Spacegodzilla (first release)


Although these figures are pretty good overall, I think all of them (except MG & Mogera) need to be redone.


I never want to see Angilas, Space Godzilla and specially the Heisei Godzilla re-released ever again.

And RZK, combating something you perceive as flamebait with something you outright admit is REAL flamebait is probably NOT the smartest thing to do.
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Re: Godzilla Island Series Figures

Postby RedZillaKing » Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:07 pm

So insulting a group of fans for utterly no reason isn't flamebaiting? You're awful cute when you're being hypocritical.

And Rody didn't mean a rerelease. He meant new sculpts. And he's right. Almost every monster could use a resculpt. And believe it or not Anguirus fans are probably not satisfied with a sculpt that's more than 20 years old.
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Re: Godzilla Island Series Figures

Postby Legion1979 » Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:18 pm

RedZillaKing wrote:And Rody didn't mean a rerelease. He meant new sculpts. And he's right. Almost every monster could use a resculpt.


I KNOW what Rody meant. That's why I said I never want to see those figures re-released again. They desperately need resculpts. I was agreeing with him. God damn it, you're so desperate to pick a fight with me you're seeing arguments that aren't even there.

And believe it or not Anguirus fans are probably not satisfied with a sculpt that's more than 20 years old.


Holy shit, really? That sculpt needed to retire over a decade ago. I'll bet if Angilas was an Ultramonster we would have seen a re-sculpt by now. Too bad he's not.
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Re: Godzilla Island Series Figures

Postby RedZillaKing » Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:26 pm

Lol, you're just so bloody contrary I assumed you were picking on Rody. Your disdain for Heisei monsters is well known after all. That's assuming you're telling the truth at all. Not that I even care, really.

I've had my fun. No need to disrupt this thread any further.
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Re: Godzilla Island Series Figures

Postby GreenAiden555 » Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:35 pm

Wait, why was Ultraman brought up in a Godzilla thread anyway? Two separate entities, nothing to do with the other.

What would the price range be on these bad boys? I see the Destoroyah jump around from $15-$45, curious about the others.
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Re: Godzilla Island Series Figures

Postby Goji » Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:38 pm

The only one of these I have is the King Ghidorah from '98. The rest just never appealed to me because I already owned all of the 8 inch versions by the time these started coming out.

The only figures from Bandai's 6 inch line that I have are the ones that don't exist in any other form; Titanosaurus, Hedorah, Jet Jaguar, MG 2, and the various Showa Godzilla's (though I still need a handful of those).
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Re: Godzilla Island Series Figures

Postby Legion1979 » Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:39 pm

Goji wrote:The only one of these I have is the King Ghidorah from '98. The rest just never appealed to me because I already owned all of the 8 inch versions by the time these started coming out.

The only figures from Bandai's 6 inch line that I have are the ones that don't exist in any other form; Titanosaurus, Hedorah, Jet Jaguar, MG 2, and the various Showa Godzilla's (though I still need a handful of those).


Bandai DID make a Jet Jaguar and a Hedora in the 8" line, Goji.
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Re: Godzilla Island Series Figures

Postby JVM » Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:20 pm

Lost my chance at KC. Swore I've been told before if you're outbid in the last thirty seconds eBay automatically adds another thirty seconds. Panicked to submit the bid before the auction ended and didn't end up bidding high enough to beat the guy.
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Re: Godzilla Island Series Figures

Postby Goji » Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:25 pm

Legion1979 wrote:
Goji wrote:The only one of these I have is the King Ghidorah from '98. The rest just never appealed to me because I already owned all of the 8 inch versions by the time these started coming out.

The only figures from Bandai's 6 inch line that I have are the ones that don't exist in any other form; Titanosaurus, Hedorah, Jet Jaguar, MG 2, and the various Showa Godzilla's (though I still need a handful of those).


Bandai DID make a Jet Jaguar and a Hedora in the 8" line, Goji.


*face palm* The hell is my problem. I'm sorry, I should have said "sculpts that don't exist in the 8 inch line". I never did get that original Jet Jaguar, actually. The 90's Hedorah was one of my first though. I love that figure.
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Re: Godzilla Island Series Figures

Postby RedZillaKing » Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:37 pm

The new Jet was pretty good. You aren't missing much.
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