2012 X-Plus Vinyl Figures Discussion Thread

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Which Figure Should X-Plus Absolutely Release in 2012?

Gabara
8
8%
Kamakiras
2
2%
King Ghidorah (1968)
31
32%
King Seesar
9
9%
Kumonga
3
3%
Manda (1968)
2
2%
Mecha-King Ghidora
13
13%
Mothra Imago
1
1%
Rodan (1956)
4
4%
Titanosaurus
24
25%
 
Total votes : 97

Re: 2012 X-Plus Vinyl Figures Discussion Thread

Postby GCrusher » Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:49 am

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I voted for Ghidorah! He would be an AWESOME addition to my (or any) collection. I am waiting for my 30cm X-Plus Godzilla 54 to arrive, anybody have one yet?
Hope 2012 proves to be a great year for new X-Plus releases (not all at once please)!


I'm expecting my G '54 and MechaG some time this week. Can't wait to get them.

My gut is telling me we'll see a Mothra Imago soon. Anyway, at least that's my guess. The 25cm G '64 with the two Internet exclusive larvae would be a nice segway.


Yeah, I would like to see something other than a larva Mothra form X-Plus, but there would be so many choices for them.

Let's see..
    Aqua Mothra
    Armored Mothra
    Mothra Leo
    Mothra Imago
    Mothra Primitive larva
    Mothra Eternal
Not too sure of the naming but I think I got it right.
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Re: 2012 X-Plus Vinyl Figures Discussion Thread

Postby Legion1979 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:48 pm

If X-Plus did another Mothra I'm positive it will be a Showa version.

Have they done any non-Godzilla monsters that date past 1989? No.
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Re: 2012 X-Plus Vinyl Figures Discussion Thread

Postby Brad Simmons » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:58 pm

Yeah, I would be extremely disappointed if we saw any other Mothra Imago before the Showa version. Same can be said for King Ghidorah. There's something like 5 or 6 of those as well. :shock:
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Re: 2012 X-Plus Vinyl Figures Discussion Thread

Postby GCrusher » Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:12 pm

Brad Simmons wrote:Yeah, I would be extremely disappointed if we saw any other Mothra Imago before the Showa version. Same can be said for King Ghidorah. There's something like 5 or 6 of those as well. :shock:


At least X-Plus has got it right with the Godzillas, they've already released the most memorable years, with the exception of needing to release a Burning, Meltdown, 2000 and Final Wars versions. After those four, then Rodan, Mothra and Ghidorah, I'll be done. They also released the most important second tier kajui too, with Goro, Minya, Anguirus, Gigan, Mothra larva, Baragon and Megalon. Unfortunately Megalon wasnt a 30cm version. It will be easy to see what size scale the other B characters will be. Maybe Titano and Seesar will only be 25cm. Something tells me we'll see a 30cm Titano though.
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Re: 2012 X-Plus Vinyl Figures Discussion Thread

Postby Cimmerian Dragon » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:51 pm

I absolutely love my resin Mothra Imago, but I wouldn't be opposed to shelling out some cash for a new vinyl sculpt. I'd like to see X-Plus do a version of the old girl in "mid wing-flap" or something, bring some energy into the figure.
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Re: 2012 X-Plus Vinyl Figures Discussion Thread

Postby leunames » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:58 pm

GCrusher wrote:
Brad Simmons wrote:Yeah, I would be extremely disappointed if we saw any other Mothra Imago before the Showa version. Same can be said for King Ghidorah. There's something like 5 or 6 of those as well. :shock:


At least X-Plus has got it right with the Godzillas, they've already released the most memorable years, with the exception of needing to release a Burning, Meltdown, 2000 and Final Wars versions. After those four, then Rodan, Mothra and Ghidorah, I'll be done. They also released the most important second tier kajui too, with Goro, Minya, Anguirus, Gigan, Mothra larva, Baragon and Megalon. Unfortunately Megalon wasnt a 30cm version. It will be easy to see what size scale the other B characters will be. Maybe Titano and Seesar will only be 25cm. Something tells me we'll see a 30cm Titano though.


I'd rather they release Godzillas from GTTHM and Monster Zero along with Godzilla '91 before they go anywhere near the other heisei versions and all the millennium suits.
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Re: 2012 X-Plus Vinyl Figures Discussion Thread

Postby Brad Simmons » Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:22 am

Awesome sauce! MANDA 1963 just announced and prototype pics up on X-Plus's website!! He looks great! I was hoping for the 1968 version but I'll take him anyway I can get him. I've always loved that kaiju. And the best part, he's 30cm!!
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Re: 2012 X-Plus Vinyl Figures Discussion Thread

Postby GCrusher » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:33 am

Thank god Manda and not Ghidora is the newest 30cm figure. My wallet can rest.
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Re: 2012 X-Plus Vinyl Figures Discussion Thread

Postby Legion1979 » Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:07 pm

GCrusher wrote:Thank god Manda and not Ghidora is the newest 30cm figure. My wallet can rest.
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Why would you NOT want a Manda? That thing is awesome and we NEVER get realistic vinyl figures of the character. This is one I'd actually consider.
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Re: 2012 X-Plus Vinyl Figures Discussion Thread

Postby GreenAiden555 » Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:57 pm

Legion1979 wrote:we NEVER get realistic vinyl figures of the character.



Protip: If someone or some company doesn't do something, there's a reason for it.
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Re: 2012 X-Plus Vinyl Figures Discussion Thread

Postby SmogMonster » Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:08 pm

GreenAiden555 wrote:
Legion1979 wrote:we NEVER get realistic vinyl figures of the character.



Protip: If someone or some company doesn't do something, there's a reason for it.


Meaning...?
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Re: 2012 X-Plus Vinyl Figures Discussion Thread

Postby Biollante » Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:12 pm

GreenAiden555 wrote:
Legion1979 wrote:we NEVER get realistic vinyl figures of the character.



Protip: If someone or some company doesn't do something, there's a reason for it.

And that reason is?
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Re: 2012 X-Plus Vinyl Figures Discussion Thread

Postby GCrusher » Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:29 pm

Biollante wrote:
GreenAiden555 wrote:
Legion1979 wrote:we NEVER get realistic vinyl figures of the character.



Protip: If someone or some company doesn't do something, there's a reason for it.

And that reason is?


Manda is cool, but a lower tier character more so than a primary character like the big 5; Godzilla, Mothra, Rodan, Ghidorah, and Anguirus. I would even go as far as saying not even is Manda a second tier character as those would be; Gigan, MechaGodzilla, Kong, Minya and maybe Gorosaurus.
Manda just hasn't appeared in enough film for me to care about him, but that's not saying he's not collectible.
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Re: 2012 X-Plus Vinyl Figures Discussion Thread

Postby SuperSaiyan4Godzilla » Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:31 pm

GCrusher wrote:
Manda is cool, but a lower tier character more so than a primary character like the big 5; Godzilla, Mothra, Rodan, Ghidorah, and Anguirus. I would even go as far as saying not even is Manda a second tier character as those would be; Gigan, MechaGodzilla, Kong, Minya and maybe Gorosaurus.
Manda just hasn't appeared in enough film for me to care about him, but that's not saying he's not collectible.


I'm not sure collecting wise, but popularity wise, MechaGodzilla is in Toho's Big 5.
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Re: 2012 X-Plus Vinyl Figures Discussion Thread

Postby GCrusher » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:03 pm

SuperSaiyan4Godzilla wrote:
GCrusher wrote:
Manda is cool, but a lower tier character more so than a primary character like the big 5; Godzilla, Mothra, Rodan, Ghidorah, and Anguirus. I would even go as far as saying not even is Manda a second tier character as those would be; Gigan, MechaGodzilla, Kong, Minya and maybe Gorosaurus.
Manda just hasn't appeared in enough film for me to care about him, but that's not saying he's not collectible.


I'm not sure collecting wise, but popularity wise, MechaGodzilla is in Toho's Big 5.


The classic Mechagodzillas are my personal favorites, though always thought Anguirus was more popular. Maybe it's the Big 6!

Buying Manda, who isn't as well recognized, is almost like buying Magama or Komunga or Ebirah. They resemble real-life animals or insects too closely in their design to justifying the punrchase. I can buy a rubber spider and put it in a bag with a header card with Komunga printed on it and call it a day. X-Plus needs to put more into their designs, pose and accessories with some of the common looking characters. Ebirah is a good example here. X-Plus should have placed some speared fishermen in his claws or something. Look at the Marmits, they aren't as detailed but are often better presentations.
X-Plus has some great figs, but they can still make adjustments.
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Re: 2012 X-Plus Vinyl Figures Discussion Thread

Postby SmogMonster » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:19 pm

GCrusher wrote:Buying Manda, who isn't as well recognized, is almost like buying Magama or Komunga or Ebirah. They resemble real-life animals or insects too closely in their design to justifying the punrchase. I can buy a rubber spider and put it in a bag with a header card with Komunga printed on it and call it a day. X-Plus needs to put more into their designs, pose and accessories with some of the common looking characters. Ebirah is a good example here. X-Plus should have placed some speared fishermen in his claws or something. Look at the Marmits, they aren't as detailed but are often better presentations.
X-Plus has some great figs, but they can still make adjustments.


Yeah..no offense but none of that makes any sense at all.
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Re: 2012 X-Plus Vinyl Figures Discussion Thread

Postby GreenAiden555 » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:29 pm

SmogMonster wrote:Meaning...?



Biollante wrote:And that reason is?


Maybe not profitable enough. Maybe too "out there" for a release. Maybe the sculptor doesn't want to.

Ya know, it IS a market and art...
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Re: 2012 X-Plus Vinyl Figures Discussion Thread

Postby leunames » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:29 pm

GCrusher wrote:
SuperSaiyan4Godzilla wrote:
GCrusher wrote:
Manda is cool, but a lower tier character more so than a primary character like the big 5; Godzilla, Mothra, Rodan, Ghidorah, and Anguirus. I would even go as far as saying not even is Manda a second tier character as those would be; Gigan, MechaGodzilla, Kong, Minya and maybe Gorosaurus.
Manda just hasn't appeared in enough film for me to care about him, but that's not saying he's not collectible.


I'm not sure collecting wise, but popularity wise, MechaGodzilla is in Toho's Big 5.


The classic Mechagodzillas are my personal favorites, though always thought Anguirus was more popular. Maybe it's the Big 6!

Buying Manda, who isn't as well recognized, is almost like buying Magama or Komunga or Ebirah. They resemble real-life animals or insects too closely in their design to justifying the punrchase. I can buy a rubber spider and put it in a bag with a header card with Komunga printed on it and call it a day. X-Plus needs to put more into their designs, pose and accessories with some of the common looking characters. Ebirah is a good example here. X-Plus should have placed some speared fishermen in his claws or something. Look at the Marmits, they aren't as detailed but are often better presentations.
X-Plus has some great figs, but they can still make adjustments.


Angurius is well-liked, but Mechagodzilla is a staple Godzilla character. Any doubts about that...count how many films MG, KG, and Mothra star/feature in vs. Anguirus.

As for Manda, I have to say I completely disagree. X-Plus is obviously catering to a particular dedicated Godzilla fan since they run on average 2 to 3 to 4 times as much as your average designer vinyl item from Marmit. At that level I expect them to produce characters outside of the Big Five (Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidorah, Rodan, and MechaGodzilla). Ebirah has never been released in a "realistic" sculpt before, and I can tell you that the monster heaven ebirah doesn't hold a candle to the x-plus one. There's no need to add gimmicks to classic characters like Ebirah to get collectors to buy them. At the price point x-plus is at, characters like Ebirah and Manda will mostly likely sell out much faster than any Godzilla figure. the point is not how "popular" the figure is. The point is that the figure is underrepresented in the medium and is about to be released in a line that stresses a realistic style which clearly holds no reservations about producing any given character, no matter how obscure or esoteric (Magma).

This kind of popularity thing only is a factor in lower end lines like bandai creation or bandai japan. At that price level there are tons of alternates and substitutes. A realistic style showa Ebirah or Manda? Absolutely no alternates.
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Re: 2012 X-Plus Vinyl Figures Discussion Thread

Postby GreenAiden555 » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:31 pm

leunames wrote:
As for Manda, I have to say I completely disagree. X-Plus is obviously catering to the more dedicated Godzilla fan since they run on average 2 to 3 to 4 times as much as your average designer vinyl item from Marmit. At that level I expect them to produce characters outside of the Big Five (Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidorah, Rodan, and MechaGodzilla). Ebirah has never been released in a "realistic" sculpt before, and I can tell you that the monster heaven ebirah doesn't hold a candle to the x-plus one. There's no need to add gimmicks to classic characters like Ebirah to get collectors to buy them. At the price point x-plus is at, characters like Ebirah and Manda will mostly likely sell out much faster than any Godzilla figure. the point is not how "popular" the figure is. The point is that the figure is underrepresented in the medium and is about to be released in a line that stresses a realistic style which clearly holds no reservations about producing any given character, no matter how obscure or esoteric (Magma).

This kind of popularity thing only is a factor in lower end lines like bandai creation or bandai japan. At that price level there are tons of alternates and substitutes. A realistic style showa Ebirah or Manda? Absolutely no alternates.



QFT. Y-MSF made a Manda... Doesn't hold a candle to this at all.
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Re: 2012 X-Plus Vinyl Figures Discussion Thread

Postby Legion1979 » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:32 pm

The fact that we've gotten (or are getting) monsters like Magma, Ebirah and Manda before guys like Space Godzilla, Destroyah or Orga speaks volumes.
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