S.H. MonsterArts: Showa or Millenium?

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S.H. MonsterArts: Showa or Millenium?

Showa
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Millenium
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16%
Neither (Let them finish Heisei!)
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Re: S.H. MonsterArts: Showa or Millenium?

Postby Primevalgodzilla V2 » Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:30 am

I don't really care whether S.H. MonsterArts does Showa or Millennium, as long as they do one or the other. The current figures look great, but I generally don't prefer the Heisei forms of the monsters, and as mentioned here & elsewhere, the Bato-Goji design restricts articulation.


Eh, most of Godzilla's articulation problems stem from the fact its spines interlock making turning the body impossible,, and the jagged texture of the sculpt as well as the way try to conceal the joints of the SH Monsterarts (unlike the Revoltechs), and this would apply to every Godzilla. GMK Goji in particular would fare no better. I only see Showa Godzilla really shining articulation-wise (if they ever do one I would love to see them do Mosu-Goji or the '68 one, whatever its called).

Although I don't understand why Bandai went with Moge-Goji instead of Bio-Goji, the latter is superior in nearly every way design wise.
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Re: S.H. MonsterArts: Showa or Millenium?

Postby GreenAiden555 » Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:18 am

Primevalgodzilla V2 wrote:Eh, most of Godzilla's articulation problems stem from the fact its spines interlock making turning the body impossible,, and the jagged texture of the sculpt as well as the way try to conceal the joints of the SH Monsterarts (unlike the Revoltechs), and this would apply to every Godzilla. GMK Goji in particular would fare no better. I only see Showa Godzilla really shining articulation-wise (if they ever do one I would love to see them do Mosu-Goji or the '68 one, whatever its called).




Not entirely... Well, yeah, the sculpt hinders the movement, but I think that was just first figure problems. Yeah, I know Tamashii/bandai has worked with other figures, but not Godzilla. The two main issues are the thighs and waist. The thighs' main problem is that the lower back's sculpt comes to a point and prevents the leg from going back further, and, for whatever reason, he can't move his leg that far forward or out to the side. Why it can't, I don't know, but I'm 100% positive that is on a case-by-case basis, because I swear to God I've seen a picture of Godzilla sitting with the caption saying something along the lines of "Why will no one buy me?"

The waist, on the other hand, I feel they hindered the joint on purpose to prevent people from damaging the spines. If you looked really, REALLY close, you'll notice that the spines BARELY touch. If you move him slightly forward, you'll get a little bit more wiggle room when you move him left or right, but not much.

Yeah, I agree that the articulation is limited, but I don't think it forecasts the rest of the line. If they did another Godzilla, I'd be comfortable placing a money bet it would be better than G94.
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Re: S.H. MonsterArts: Showa or Millenium?

Postby Primevalgodzilla V2 » Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:36 pm

So, essentially you agree with me- the articulation problems are not becuase its '94 Goji, but early design problems.
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Re: S.H. MonsterArts: Showa or Millenium?

Postby GreenAiden555 » Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:45 pm

Primevalgodzilla V2 wrote:So, essentially you agree with me- the articulation problems are not becuase its '94 Goji, but early design problems.



Yes, I just don't agree that all of the Godzilla figures would have as limited articulation as 94 does.
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Re: S.H. MonsterArts: Showa or Millenium?

Postby dustman » Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:35 pm

after seeing war of the gargantuas for the first time finally, i would love to see a sanda and gaira as well as frankenstein to go with baragon. i would love a kong and mechanikong as well. i would even like a gabara and kamakuras. i'm hoping for showa first and then millennium. final wars was a fun movie. i loved it and would love to see figures from it. i thought it was a perfect tribute to the showa era. i love every godzilla movie though! :) :g2k:
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Re: S.H. MonsterArts: Showa or Millenium?

Postby Primevalgodzilla V2 » Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:48 pm

Meh. As economically sound going with Showa would be, we already alot of Showa super articulated figures, with many of the Showa 'greats' (Mothra, Baragon, Anguirus, Gigan, Rodan, Mechagodzilla.....) already having their own. I would prefer an Orga, Megaguirus or an Irys.
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Re: S.H. MonsterArts: Showa or Millenium?

Postby Legion1979 » Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:57 am

Primevalgodzilla V2 wrote:Meh. As economically sound going with Showa would be, we already alot of Showa super articulated figures, with many of the Showa 'greats' (Mothra, Baragon, Anguirus, Gigan, Rodan, Mechagodzilla.....) already having their own. I would prefer an Orga, Megaguirus or an Irys.


Unfortunately, Orga and Megagiras sold terribly as 6" vinyl toys. I don't think Bandai is going to be doing those in a more expensive line like this.
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Re: S.H. MonsterArts: Showa or Millenium?

Postby wataru » Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:10 am

...Orga sold terribly? And Megs was available as a theatre exclusive and in a box set only, right?
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Re: S.H. MonsterArts: Showa or Millenium?

Postby Primevalgodzilla V2 » Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:37 am

Unfortunately, Orga and Megagiras sold terribly as 6" vinyl toys. I don't think Bandai is going to be doing those in a more expensive line like this.


Oh, I know that. I also know going with Showa would be the most economically sound route. But I just want a Megaguirus/Orga super articulated, even if it will never happen.
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Re: S.H. MonsterArts: Showa or Millenium?

Postby Legion1979 » Sat Dec 31, 2011 8:30 am

wataru wrote:...Orga sold terribly?


From what I was told, yes. Apparently you couldn't get rid of those things in Japan.

And Megs was available as a theatre exclusive and in a box set only, right?


Yes. I think the blister card set with Megagiras and Godzilla didn't sell all that well either.
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Re: S.H. MonsterArts: Showa or Millenium?

Postby subatomic_Matt » Sun Jan 01, 2012 6:35 pm

While I hope they finish the Heisei series, I really hope they'll dip into the Showa era to give us a Rodan as well as Anguirus and some other monsters that were only represented in that period.

I just got my Monsterarts Godzilla in the mail and am waiting on the Mechagodzilla and a Revoltech Anguirus. I'm trying to not buy any other Revoltech's in case they end up making them in Monsterarts, but it's pretty tempting.
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Re: S.H. MonsterArts: Showa or Millenium?

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Sun Jan 01, 2012 6:44 pm

Legion1979 wrote:Apparently you couldn't get rid of those things in Japan.


Then why are they so expensive on eBay :mad:
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Re: S.H. MonsterArts: Showa or Millenium?

Postby UltramanGoji » Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:15 pm

PopInPicsPresents wrote:
Legion1979 wrote:Apparently you couldn't get rid of those things in Japan.


Then why are they so expensive on eBay :mad:


Because eBay sellers are dicks.
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Re: S.H. MonsterArts: Showa or Millenium?

Postby dustman » Sun Jan 01, 2012 8:00 pm

of course they could finish the millennium series quicker , then move on to showa. we have:

orga
megaguirus
kiryu
baragon
mothra
king ghidorah
g 2000
gmk g
final wars g
monster x
kaiser king ghidorah

but then we have final wars versions of
gigan
kumonga
kamakuras
rodan
mothra
anguiras
king ceasar
hedorah
ebirah
the gotengo
and of course zilla

so i guess there is quite a few if you include all the final wars updated versions of showa characters. either way, i'll be happy.
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Re: S.H. MonsterArts: Showa or Millenium?

Postby UltramanGoji » Sun Jan 01, 2012 8:11 pm

My responses in bold:
dustman wrote:of course they could finish the millennium series quicker , then move on to showa. we have:

orga -Like Legion said, he apparently didn't sell well in Japan. We probably won't see him. Yet...
megaguirus - See above
kiryu -With the Chogokin one already released, I doubt we'll see him. But you never know...
baragon - See above but replace "Chogokin" with "Revoltech"
mothra - Possibly.
king ghidorah - Again, possibly
g 2000 - Very high possibility. The suit is popular.
gmk g - Medium chance. If G2K gets released, I don't think this guy's got a chance.
final wars g -See above
monster x -He's not that popular. I doubt it.
kaiser king ghidorah If GMK Ghidorah is released, this guy probably won't be.

but then we have final wars versions of
gigan -See Kiryu
kumonga -HIGHLY doubted.
kamakuras - See above
rodan The Revoltech one's already released. I kinda doubt it.
mothra If the GMK one is released, there's really no point to this one.
anguiras See Rodan.
king ceasar High possibility.
hedorah Kinda doubted since he wasn't prominently featured in the film.
ebirah See Kamacuras
the gotengo Diecast one's already released. Definite no.
and of course zilla Definite no again.
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Re: S.H. MonsterArts: Showa or Millenium?

Postby GreenAiden555 » Sun Jan 01, 2012 9:11 pm

*sigh*

Fire Rodan is getting a MonsterArts, and even though Kaiyodo release two Kenshins in the revoltech line, Tamashii is making one.

Even if other companies make a figure, they're ballsy enough to make another.
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Re: S.H. MonsterArts: Showa or Millenium?

Postby UltramanGoji » Sun Jan 01, 2012 9:51 pm

GreenAiden555 wrote:*sigh*

Fire Rodan is getting a MonsterArts, and even though Kaiyodo release two Kenshins in the revoltech line, Tamashii is making one.

Even if other companies make a figure, they're ballsy enough to make another.

*facepalm* I completely forgot about him. Now most of my predictions make no sense.
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Re: S.H. MonsterArts: Showa or Millenium?

Postby GreenAiden555 » Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:13 pm

UltramanGoji wrote:
GreenAiden555 wrote:*sigh*

Fire Rodan is getting a MonsterArts, and even though Kaiyodo release two Kenshins in the revoltech line, Tamashii is making one.

Even if other companies make a figure, they're ballsy enough to make another.

*facepalm* I completely forgot about him. Now most of my predictions make no sense.



Haha, yeah, I know what you're saying. I almost forgot about the Destoroyah, but then I was like

owait


Just to let you know, the *sigh* wasn't directed at you, it just seems like a lot of people didn't see the post I made in the main thread in regards to the Kenshin figure.
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Re: S.H. MonsterArts: Showa or Millenium?

Postby dustman » Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:00 pm

it seems to me at this point that with inclusions of baby godzilla and destroyah crab form, that they are trying to complete the heisei era. so, hopefully they do and keep the same formula wherever they decide to venture next. i listed the possibilities from the millennium series. here's the showa possibilities;

king ghidorah
mothra
baragon
manda
ebirah
king kong
gorosaurus
gigan
megalon
jet jaguar
kumonga
kamakuras
gabara
minya
titanosaurus
mechagodzilla
hedorah
anguirus
rodan
mothra larvae
varan
king ceasar
giant octopus or ookatu
many different g suits to choose from

non godzilla;
sanda
gaira
frankenstein
mecha king kong
komoebas
gezora
ganimes
maguma
orochi
snowman (probably never)

would love very much to see gamera and all his foes as well
a lot of possibilities lol
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Re: S.H. MonsterArts: Showa or Millenium?

Postby Legion1979 » Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:34 pm

There are a lot of possibilities, but you KNOW Bandai plays things safe. So probably a good 3/4s (probably more) of that list above is never going to happen.
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