SH Monsterarts!

[UnCanny Studios]

Wasn't a fan submitted design and origin?

You are correct! There shouldnt be any rights issues, however, since Bandai has had their expansive Godzilla license since the eighties.

[RedZillaKing]

I shudder to think what the damned thing would cost. 180-200 dollars is my guess. Think of the plastic... Unless it was hollow in the body. But I can't see them doing that.

[GreenAiden555]

It isn't silly when you're considering which one to purchase. Then it comes down to which one is more aesthetically pleasing. Considering the fact that the Bandai vinyl Fire Rodan lost that contest to nothing in my teenage years his decision does not surprise me.

NOOOO STOP ITS A COLLECTOR'S TREASURE DON'T BASH IT. WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU, SAYING AN OLDER PRODUCT YOU'RE SPENDING YOUR MONEY ON NOW IS GARBAGE. NOSTALGGGGIIIIIAAAAAAAAA.


THIS LINE WON'T DO ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF WHAT KAWAKITA HAS DONE. NOPE. STOP THINKING ITS GONNA BRANCH OUT. STAY PESSIMISTIC.

[UnCanny Studios]

THIS LINE WON'T DO ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF WHAT KAWAKITA HAS DONE. NOPE. STOP THINKING ITS GONNA BRANCH OUT. STAY PESSIMISTIC.

Thats the FigureArts line, not the S.H. Monsterarts line. Same company, different products. The Kawakita statement came directly from Bandai, not us.

Let me know how your foot tastes, dude.

[RedZillaKing]

Not to be contrary but that's an SHM. Two Angels from Neon Genesis Evangelion are the next releases after Ghidorah.

Probably.

[GreenAiden555]

As is this.



And I'm not an idiot, I KNOW that he is working directly with Bandai. I posted a small excerpt of an interview with him in this thread.

[UnCanny Studios]

Well then surely you realize that no one is purposefully being a pessimist, we're just trying to relay facts.

And they're under the SHM title, yes, but its not the same line as their Godzilla figures. Figurarts as a company is doing different lines of figures from different genres/properties. We're discussing their Godzilla SHM line specifically.

And no worries, RedZillaKing,I'll just word my posts more clearly from now on. Not worth starting something over.

[GreenAiden555]

Well then surely you realize that no one is purposefully being a pessimist, we're just trying to relay facts.

And they're under the SHM title, yes, but its not the same line as their Godzilla figures. Figurarts as a company is doing different lines of figures from different genres/properties. We're discussing their Godzilla SHM line specifically.

To my knowledge, FiguArts isn't a company; its a line of figures ranging from DBZ, Kamen Rider, Tiger & Bunny, and more.

The S.H. MonsterArts line includes the angels and Godzilla, just the same as the Toho Kaiju are a part of the Sci-Fi Revoltech line.

[UnCanny Studios]

Its a subsidiary company title. Bandai is the prime company. Figurarts can still be referred to as a "company", its a business term - not a reference to a physical entity specifically. Next time, I'll type out all the full exact details if that is necessary upon each posting from now on...

No offense, but if you micro manage posts just to attempt to point out flaws, you're always going to find them. This isn't a competition.

[RedZillaKing]

Wasn't the main argument NOT whether or not there'll be other kaiju but whether or not they'll release figures from the other Goji eras?

Regardless I can see what incensed Uncanny in the first place. Gloating isn't cool brah.

[GreenAiden555]

Its a subsidiary company title. Bandai is the prime company. Figurarts can still be referred to as a "company", its a business term - not a reference to a physical entity specifically. Next time, I'll type out all the full exact details if that is necessary upon each posting from now on...

No offense, but if you micro manage posts just to attempt to point out flaws, you're always going to find them. This isn't a competition.

Except FiguArts is the name of a line of figures. The company that releases them is Tamashii Nations.

The fact still stands; there's more than Godzilla monsters in the S.H. MonsterArts line. It isn't Kawakita centric. If it was Godzilla exclusive, then what line of figures do the angels belong in? The MonsterArts line. Just like one of the robots (I'm assuming its a robot, I've never seen the anime, and it looks robotic) shown next to the red angel is in the Robot Damashii line. This one.

The statement that the SHM line is influenced solely by Kawakita's creations is wrong. That cannot be denied. There is proof of two figures that were shown recently. That cannot be argued, since it is, in fact, wrong.

Now, saying the Godzilla PORTION of the line is influenced solely by Kawakita may be correct, but I have not seen a single post that said that, but rather that the whole line is influenced. As I said, unless the EVA series was made by him (and I did my homework, I haven't seen anything stating that), the SHM line is not Kawakita centric.

[Legion1979]

I personally think it's pretty foolish to assume that people are talking about anything other than Toho giant monsters when we discuss potential candidates for the MA line and whether or not we'll eventually get Showa/Millennium monsters. I don't see why that even needs to be spelled out.

[ZillaMaster91]

Sure Kawakita made the original commercials for the line, but I think his influence beyond that was little to none. The fact that they're releasing monsters from the Heisei era doesn't mean Kawakita is pulling strings, it's more coincidental since he did do the special effects for ALL of the films minus The Return of Godzilla.

After all, isn't it Yuji Sakai who is the main sculptor for the figures in this line? I would reckon that he would have more influence over what kaiju appear in this line than Kawakita (that's saying if he had any influence whatsoever). I do believe that a Biollante figure will be made sooner or later. If there were such high property rights with the character, then we wouldn't have any releases of the character whatsoever by Bandai, nor X-Plus.

[UnCanny Studios]

This is Toho Kingdom. We talk about Toho Monsters here. Bandai is releasing the Godzilla monsters through their licensing with the series. Its a whole different deal, and the only thing we've been discussing here on Toho Kingdom - the Toho monsters in the line.

I personally think it's pretty foolish to assume that people are talking about anything other than Toho giant monsters when we discuss potential candidates for the MA line and whether or not we'll eventually get Showa/Millennium monsters. I don't see why that even needs to be spelled out.

Bingo. Thank you.

And Kawakita's influence isnt coincidental, its contractual with Bandai and this line.

No one is making this stuff up.

[GreenAiden555]

I personally think it's pretty foolish to assume that people are talking about anything other than Toho giant monsters when we discuss potential candidates for the MA line and whether or not we'll eventually get Showa/Millennium monsters. I don't see why that even needs to be spelled out.

It doesn't.

Here's something that, clearly, needs to be spelled out;

They have intentions of expanding past what Kawakita has made. Considering that RZK (I believe, was it someone else initially?) and some else said that Gamera was on a questionnaire, and NOW we have the EVA figures to look forward to, the entire line can go anywhere whether it be Toho creations or not.

ZillaMaster91, Bandai hasn't released a Biollante in.. lolidk. X-Plus, which is a brand of figures aimed solely at collectors, similar to the Tamashii figures, released one a little while ago... Considering X-Plus made one, I'd say if this line is good enough, a Biollante looks likely. Judging by SpaceGodzilla's joints, Tamashii does listen to their customers.

[Legion1979]

Here's something that, clearly, needs to be spelled out;

They have intentions of expanding past what Kawakita has made. Considering that RZK (I believe, was it someone else initially?) and some else said that Gamera was on a questionnaire, and NOW we have the EVA figures to look forward to, the entire line can go anywhere whether it be Toho creations or not.

But the reality is that the majority of the people right here on this forum really only care about the Toho stuff. So you could state that Bandai is giving us more than just Heisei Toho monsters to look forward to, and you'd be correct. But in the grand scheme of things we're here discussing this line BECAUSE of the Godzilla stuff we're getting. And as far as we know Bandai has NO plans to take this past the Heisei stuff.

ZillaMaster91, Bandai hasn't released a Biollante in.. lolidk. X-Plus, which is a brand of figures aimed solely at collectors, similar to the Tamashii figures, released one a little while ago... Considering X-Plus made one, I'd say if this line is good enough, a Biollante looks likely. Judging by SpaceGodzilla's joints, Tamashii does listen to their customers.

X-Plus making a Biollante has no bearing on what Bandai does in a line like this. X-Plus has also done Ebirah, Manda and Magma. By extension, should Bandai do those too? Monsters like Godzilla, Mechagodzilla, Rodan, Space Godzilla, Mogera, Destroyah, a baby Godzilla and of course King Ghidora are sure sellers and natural for this line. They've all shown up in some form or another whenever Bandai does a new vinyl line. There's no precedent set for Biollante being a strong seller as far as Bandai toys go, and an eventual MA Biollante is going to be FAR more expensive than even Ghidora if these are all to the same scale.

Face it, Biollante isn't a given.

[Jomei]

As much as I want a Biollante, I have to agree with Legion. I don't think it's out of the question, but it's not a sure thing, either.

[RedZillaKing]

This might be the stupidest argument yet. Did everyone make their ambiguous points yet?

@Jomei- I'm personally hoping Bio doesn't come out. At least not for a while. I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that I'm spending hundreds on action figures already.

[Jomei]

lol I know that feeling. Good god, do I ever know that feeling.

I do hope we get one eventually, though. My collection still lacks a good Biollante, and though I'm interested in the Marmit and M1 standard figures, I'd also be interested in a highly realistic one, and I'm positive a MonsterArts version would best the Bandai--though it's a cool figure, it shows its age.

[GreenAiden555]

But the reality is that the majority of the people right here on this forum really only care about the Toho stuff. So you could state that Bandai is giving us more than just Heisei Toho monsters to look forward to, and you'd be correct. But in the grand scheme of things we're here discussing this line BECAUSE of the Godzilla stuff we're getting. And as far as we know Bandai has NO plans to take this past the Heisei stuff.

That's fine, and I do agree with some of what you said. Again, I'm not an idiot; there isn't a FiguArts thread even though I'm sure some enjoy Kamen Rider and DBZ. I own Revoltech figures, and I take part in discussion of the Revoltech thread. I know that other figures in Revoltech's lines have been brought up (Iron Man right now, I made a big stink about Monster Hunter), and it is pretty clear that a few people are interested in other aspects of this line outside of Godzilla. I , for one, and VERY interested in the EVA figures. Never seen the anime, don't care to, but they look cool.

What I think part of this back-and-forth is about is how I initially (actually, for the second time) posted that Kawakita doesn't have total control of what gets released. Considering that I post like a moron and completely, blatantly exaggerate most of my posts, I thought the message should be clear.

I didn't intend it to be a hostile "SKREEONK YOU, YOU WERE WRONG, MORONS." It may be perceived that way, but I have no hostile intentions with you (for the most part. I wouldn't say hostile, just that I don't agree with you some times), UnCanny, or anyone else that said anything that could be interpreted in a way that would suggest Kawakita had total pull over the line.

Here's what I meant to say, in a very broken down format in response to the notion that Kawakita determines what gets released in the SHM line. Which is what I was getting at, because as I stated, saying he had pull over the entire line, which is what I saw was posted, is incorrect.

"It's pretty clear Kawakita isn't the man in charge of this line. With these EVA figures, its pretty clear we're getting more brands thrown into the mix alongside Godzilla. Considering these prototypes aren't designed by Kawakita, who knows what else we will see for Godzilla."

X-Plus making a Biollante has no bearing on what Bandai does in a line like this. X-Plus has also done Ebirah, Manda and Magma. By extension, should Bandai do those too? Monsters like Godzilla, Mechagodzilla, Rodan, Space Godzilla, Mogera, Destroyah, a baby Godzilla and of course King Ghidora are sure sellers and natural for this line. They've all shown up in some form or another whenever Bandai does a new vinyl line. There's no precedent set for Biollante being a strong seller as far as Bandai toys go, and an eventual MA Biollante is going to be FAR more expensive than even Ghidora if these are all to the same scale.

Face it, Biollante isn't a given.

Right, I understand. X-plus=/= Bandai/Tamashii. The point I was trying to make as was made before, the X-Plus figures are aimed at collectors, not at children, like this line is aimed at (actually, these are aimed towards adolescents and older, as per press releases, though I cannot say what X-Plus's target audience is, as I have never seen a press release).

Tamashii does, however, have a precedent for taking customers into HUUUUGE consideration. They have polls regularly on their facebook page, and the US has already determined the decision to release the FiguArts Trunks. If there is enough of a push from fans, its pretty clear that Tamashii will listen.

I know Biollante may not be a given, but I can still keep my hopes up. Believe me, I want it, but I do NOT want to see the price tag.

RZK: Not really. Go look through the General KoM or Whine thread.