Godzilla: Gangsters & Goliaths

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Re: Godzilla: Gangsters & Goliaths

Postby Legion1979 » Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:37 pm

g2kmaster wrote:
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g2kmaster wrote: I thought the usage of GANGSTERS in the title was going to be somthing describing the kaiju. Nope. This is a story with actual Yakuza.


How is it possible to actually think otherwise?


Extreme humanization of the kaiju. Extreme.


You expected that?
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Re: Godzilla: Gangsters & Goliaths

Postby g2kmaster » Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:47 pm

Legion1979 wrote:
You expected that?


I don't expect anything. But, consdidering how bad this whole thing could have turned out, it wouldn't have surprised me.
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Re: Godzilla: Gangsters & Goliaths

Postby gilamonster » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:22 pm

I find that a little ridiculous and hard to believe. It's been known for months that "gangsters" in the title refers to yakuza.
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Re: Godzilla: Gangsters & Goliaths

Postby NSZ » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:26 pm

gilamonster wrote:I find that a little ridiculous and hard to believe. It's been known for months that "gangsters" in the title refers to yakuza.


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Re: Godzilla: Gangsters & Goliaths

Postby g2kmaster » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:39 pm

gilamonster wrote:I find that a little ridiculous and hard to believe. It's been known for months that "gangsters" in the title refers to yakuza.


I don't keep up with the comics. Nor do I have much interest to. All I know is a list of people who are working on the book, the amount of cover varriants for issue 1, and that 3 issues are out thus far. In regards for the G&G side story, That's all.

Actauly, this is the first time I've really ever really joined in on a discussion on any of IDW's comic books on this forum like this. Sorry for my ignorance. Though I wouldn't say it is all that rediculous. I could just imagine a little comic book with SD forms of the kaiju re-enacting GOODFELLAS or THE GODFATHER to a certain extent but shake it up to make it comedic (though it is something a Japanese publisher is more likely to do).
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Re: Godzilla: Gangsters & Goliaths

Postby Pkmatrix » Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:00 am

g2kmaster wrote:I don't keep up with the comics. Nor do I have much interest to. All I know is a list of people who are working on the book, the amount of cover varriants for issue 1, and that 3 issues are out thus far. In regards for the G&G side story, That's all. Actauly, this is the first time I've really ever really joined in on a discussion on any of IDW's comic books on this forum like this. Sorry for my ignorance.


I kind of envy you there. Sometimes all the nerdrage makes discussing the comic feel like pulling teeth. XD

g2kmaster wrote:Though I wouldn't say it is all that rediculous. I could just imagine a little comic book with SD forms of the kaiju re-enacting GOODFELLAS or THE GODFATHER to a certain extent but shake it up to make it comedic (though it is something a Japanese publisher is more likely to do).


LOL! I'd totally buy that! :mrgreen: Though, that sounds a bit more like something you'd find in a manga rather than an American comic.
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Re: Godzilla: Gangsters & Goliaths

Postby attilagodzilla » Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:06 am

just readed it and i noticed that here the spines og godzilla glow when he fires his ray while the don't in the new series
overall good comic and really enjoy this.
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Re: Godzilla: Gangsters & Goliaths

Postby FlawedCoil82 » Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:54 pm

I got this on Saturday. Again, I hate the artwork in this issue as well (probably even worse than in KOM). I still so badly wish Dark Horse had been able to get the license to the other Toho monsters since their artwork was far superior to anything I have seen in these IDW books thus far. Although I did like that this Godzilla seemed to be much closer to the Heisei appearance (the back spines were still all wrong though). Also, I thought the storyline in this was a tad more engaging than in KOM. I will definitely still be buy this title since I want to replace X-Men with it, but I have to say I liked Dark Horse better, if for nothing else, their artwork. Having those same artists doing these comics with Toho monsters would have been a dream come true.
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Re: Godzilla: Gangsters & Goliaths

Postby Tyler » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:03 pm

The first issue of this series is better than all the issues of KOM so far. I really dug it, the art and the story. I was upset when I ran out of pages. I want the next issue.
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Re: Godzilla: Gangsters & Goliaths

Postby g2kmaster » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:26 pm

Just wondering, did anyone feel it was kind of hoakey when the head Yakuza boss called himself "daikaiju"? At first it sounds hoakey, but then if you think of the litteral translation (mysterious beast), it kind of helps.
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Re: Godzilla: Gangsters & Goliaths

Postby Showa Gyaos » Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:55 pm

g2kmaster wrote:Just wondering, did anyone feel it was kind of hoakey when the head Yakuza boss called himself "daikaiju"? At first it sounds hoakey, but then if you think of the litteral translation (mysterious beast), it kind of helps.

He compares himself to giant monsters because he is a crime lord in Japan. Didn't think it was "hoakey."
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Re: Godzilla: Gangsters & Goliaths

Postby Crimson_Raptor » Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:37 pm

FlawedCoil82 wrote:I hate the artwork in this issue as well (probably even worse than in KOM).

I'd have to say that Alberto Ponticelli's artwork is far more faithful at its majority to Godzilla himself. More so toward the Heisei-double-rowed teeth version that embodies the majority of the Godzilla's features.

While on the flip side Phil Hester Kingdom of Monsters art is so all over the place from one panel to the next. Sometimes it's Final Wars, 1954, 1985, etc. Plus the lack of the scales give him too much of a smooth lizard look rather than the rubbery, "scaleful" G-Suit we all have grown up knowing.

FlawedCoil82 wrote:I ...wish Dark Horse had been able to get the license...since their artwork was far superior

I would like to agree but Dark Horse has not been up to par recently with it's current comics on the market. IDW seems to have a better sense of what their customers want for their licensed products.

So far though, Arthur Adams has had the best artwork for any stateside Godzilla comic to date. He simply set the bar to high for others to follow, lol! For stand alone art Bob Eggleton has been the best for my tastes.

However, if he were able to dole artwork faster, I'd nominate Matt Frank to accept a position as a comic book artist! It probably wouldn't pay enough for him, but man, Matt's stand alone artwork is just so smooth and seemingly accurate that he accents whatever the monster in question has to offer. I mean, he's been around for a long time, at least since '03 during artwork for Ken Lewis's Giant Monster Rampage!
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Re: Godzilla: Gangsters & Goliaths

Postby Monster Master » Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:02 am

However, if he were able to dole artwork faster, I'd nominate Matt Frank to accept a position as a comic book artist! It probably wouldn't pay enough for him, but man, Matt's stand alone artwork is just so smooth and seemingly accurate that he accents whatever the monster in question has to offer.


If he can stay far, FAR, FAR away from redesigning them, sure.
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Re: Godzilla: Gangsters & Goliaths

Postby SuperSaiyan4Godzilla » Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:17 am

Monster Master wrote:
However, if he were able to dole artwork faster, I'd nominate Matt Frank to accept a position as a comic book artist! It probably wouldn't pay enough for him, but man, Matt's stand alone artwork is just so smooth and seemingly accurate that he accents whatever the monster in question has to offer.


If he can stay far, FAR, FAR away from redesigning them, sure.


Frank said that if he were ever hired to do an official Godzilla project, he'd never redesign the monsters in his own vision. G Neo was HIS Godzilla universe and was never meant to replace the original.
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Re: Godzilla: Gangsters & Goliaths

Postby Monster Master » Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:42 pm

Just got this issue also and loved it. Better than Issue 4 of KOM. I also love the fact that they're using the Heisei Godzilla design in this one.
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Re: Godzilla: Gangsters & Goliaths

Postby Gojira-Fan » Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:31 pm

I liked this first issue. I enjoyed it more than any of the main series issues. My only problem I have with it is that I wished the main character stopped and talked to the keepers of the Shobijin and the Shobijin themselves some more. It would have been nice to get more character development. Hell, even talk about Mothra some more.
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Re: Godzilla: Gangsters & Goliaths

Postby Gorosaurus Rex » Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:28 am

This was fun, and was more of what I was looking for in a Godzilla comic. However, I felt something was missing. The humor felt strained and unnecessary. Still promising though. Really looking forward to next issue.
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Re: Godzilla: Gangsters & Goliaths

Postby HayesAJones » Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:34 pm

I liked the first issue. Interesting premise, I look forward to seeing more.
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Re: Godzilla: Gangsters & Goliaths

Postby Tyler » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:55 pm

Next issue out this week or next?
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Re: Godzilla: Gangsters & Goliaths

Postby Showa Gyaos » Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:42 pm

Tyler wrote:Next issue out this week or next?

This Wednesday. Time flies, doesn't it?
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