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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby KaijuX » Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:25 pm

Okay now kiddies. Don't make the big guns fire away now. :P If you two are going to argue your daylights out, then take it somewhere else. I think there are even more people who aren't interested in two idiots pointlessly argue their butts off. So either stop or go somewhere else.
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby Berzerkgodzilla » Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:34 pm

I only posted once :|

Don't really think that qualifies as two idiots arguing their butts off, and I don't plan on continuing it.
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby Godzilla 1995 » Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:53 pm

KaijuX wrote:Okay now kiddies. Don't make the big guns fire away now. If you two are going to argue your daylights out, then take it somewhere else. I think there are even more people who aren't interested in two idiots pointlessly argue their butts off. So either stop or go somewhere else.


Umm...there's no need for them to go somewhere else. Their argument is on topic, so they're not violating any rules. And if they're not supposed to argue in a thread, then there's no purpose for there BEING a thread. Chillax, bro. No worries. ;)
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby KaijuX » Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:08 pm

Berzerkgodzilla wrote:I only posted once :|

Don't really think that qualifies as two idiots arguing their butts off, and I don't plan on continuing it.

But knowing CA, he would counter it, then you would counter, then blah blah blah. So I was saying before hand. Cuz I know for sure about CA blabbing his fanboy away.

Now here's truth: not everyone is going to like KOM. Heck, everyone just might dislike KOM. I personally find it to be a tad of a guilty pleasure for me and I like it. Artwork, while not the best, I've actually had confidence of drawing monsters now. So rather than hating like most other logical people, I give my thanks to Santos.
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby Berzerkgodzilla » Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:59 pm

Trust me if I was going to counter, I would have said something long before you posted something ;)

But I don't mind people liking it, but really I find it absolutely horrible, and believe that Godzilla deserves better treament
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby gatorzilla » Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:17 pm

You either like it or you dont. No sense in freaking out on others either way or raising hissy fits.

I like it. I buy it. Thats how i roll.

People need to chill either way. Its a comic series.
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby HayesAJones » Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:47 pm

^Words to live by right there.
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby KaijuX » Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:54 pm

^ I agree.
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby kaijukurt » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:19 pm

Anyway, here's the link to the rest of the KOM # 12 preview images.
http://www.mtv.com/geek/comic/issue/3070/godzilla-kingdom-of-monsters-12.jhtml
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby Captain Aktion » Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:24 pm

KaijuX wrote:Okay now kiddies. Don't make the big guns fire away now. If you two are going to argue your daylights out, then take it somewhere else. I think there are even more people who aren't interested in two idiots pointlessly argue their butts off. So either stop or go somewhere else.


Somebody's got a superiority complex, methinks. IF no one on here is interested in listening to two "idiots", then I don't know why anybody is even on a forum; they breed idiocy.

I love how when everybody is just bashing on it, nobody says anything. Everytime I throw in my two cents to counter those sentiments I get the slag-off from all those people.

If I can't come here and defend the comic then why is it everyone can come here and bash it?

Does. Not. Compute.

You don't like what I have to say? Fine, scroll on down, won't hurt me in the least, I assure you. But don't tell me I can't defend it; Godzilla fans tend to defend their questionable choices of what is good, what is bad. That's all I and everyone else on here is doing. Go single someone else out.

Oh, and BTW, my posts were more on topic than your post was. Nanny-nanny-boo-boo.

I like it, I buy it. You don't like it, don't buy it. It really is as simple as that for me.

Have any of you posters who decry me for "arguing" or being a "fanboy" even read my posts? If you did, you'd realize that I only chime in when people post totally unreasonable comments about the comic that are in no way constructive nor enlightening.

I've never called this book the second coming but I see no reason for it to take such a beating around here other than pedantic personal opinions/expectations of what their beloved Godzilla "should" be. Yet I'm the unreasonable fanboy.

Right. It's called either irony or hypocrisy or maybe both. I'll let you take your pick of the lesser evil.
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby KaijuX » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:26 am

Captain Aktion wrote:
KaijuX wrote:Okay now kiddies. Don't make the big guns fire away now. If you two are going to argue your daylights out, then take it somewhere else. I think there are even more people who aren't interested in two idiots pointlessly argue their butts off. So either stop or go somewhere else.


Somebody's got a superiority complex, methinks. IF no one on here is interested in listening to two "idiots", then I don't know why anybody is even on a forum; they breed idiocy.

I love how when everybody is just bashing on it, nobody says anything. Everytime I throw in my two cents to counter those sentiments I get the slag-off from all those people.

If I can't come here and defend the comic then why is it everyone can come here and bash it?

Does. Not. Compute.

You don't like what I have to say? Fine, scroll on down, won't hurt me in the least, I assure you. But don't tell me I can't defend it; Godzilla fans tend to defend their questionable choices of what is good, what is bad. That's all I and everyone else on here is doing. Go single someone else out.

Oh, and BTW, my posts were more on topic than your post was. Nanny-nanny-boo-boo.

I like it, I buy it. You don't like it, don't buy it. It really is as simple as that for me.

Have any of you posters who decry me for "arguing" or being a "fanboy" even read my posts? If you did, you'd realize that I only chime in when people post totally unreasonable comments about the comic that are in no way constructive nor enlightening.

I've never called this book the second coming but I see no reason for it to take such a beating around here other than pedantic personal opinions/expectations of what their beloved Godzilla "should" be. Yet I'm the unreasonable fanboy.

Right. It's called either irony or hypocrisy or maybe both. I'll let you take your pick of the lesser evil.

You should really look back on yourself. Too much on your brain and giving yourself too much stress with such a silly topic. I suggest just look on back and reflect with yourself for a second.

Also, my question is who are you defending the Big G from? Other fanboys? Dude, arguing with them is like living on the sun; it's not going to work. If they're going to bash the living heck out of KOM, fine. Let them. There are lovers here too. But you can't stop the people who are bashing it right now from, well... Bashing it. I'll repeat: take a good look at yourself CA. Your just about to battle with a brother, I am a liker of KOM. And I don't want greater or lesser evils here. I just want you to realize and repent from your ways before it gets out of hand. And if you decide to rage... We'll take it somewhere else.

And I forgot one thing on my first post. It's there now, but I'll put it here.

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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby ebirahsmeg1 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:03 am

Here is a 7 page sneak peak:

http://www.mtv.com/geek/comic/issue/3070/godzilla-kingdom-of-monsters-12.jhtml

As far as others who complain about those who (rightfully) rip this comic a new one, I'll respond to this later as I have a long 14 hour work day ahead of me tomorrow...I have *ALOT* to say about the short-comings of KOM. Stay tuned...
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby KaijuX » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:51 am

Whew, that's a lot of work. I can only say good luck to you. But I think kaijukurt already mentioned the preview.
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby Captain Aktion » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:11 am

Oh don't worry about me, KaijuX, I'm not stressing over this, trust me.

And contrary to how some of you probably feel about me, I'm not here to argue and fight, but you still can't tell me how this works out to be right:

I read people bashing the comic. I respond in it's defense. I get shit for defending it. When I respond to the shit, I'm a dick. Wha...?

Again, does not compute.
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby SuperSaiyan4Godzilla » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:20 am

Captain Aktion wrote:I don't know why more of the posters on here don't submit story-treatments/outlines to IDW.

Many of you obviously know how to, and seem to think you can, create the absolute perfect Godzilla comic that will please 100% of the fanbase across the board while making all of the seasoned industry professionals who have actually produced said material look like chumps and noobs.

I mean, if I had that kind of talent and insight into the sales and marketing labyrinth that is the comic book industry I sure as hell wouldn't be sitting in a forum merely talking about what I'd do and whining about how others are "doing it all wrong". I'd pull up my bootstraps and get to work and go make me some of that Mark Millar money, know what I'm sayin'?

Just, when you write your comics, guys, be sure that I like it, okay? I don't care if anybody else likes it or not, alright? This is Godzilla we're talking about and as a fan, my opinion is the only one that really matters, get it?


Joe Quesada and Joseph Loeb. And Mark Millar isn't as good as he once was.

Look those two up and see how they just about ruined perfectly good franchises.

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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby RedZillaKing » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:26 am

Are you talking about that Spiderman storyline? Cuz, yeah... That was silly.
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby Captain Aktion » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:50 am

SuperSaiyan4Godzilla wrote:
Captain Aktion wrote:I don't know why more of the posters on here don't submit story-treatments/outlines to IDW.

Many of you obviously know how to, and seem to think you can, create the absolute perfect Godzilla comic that will please 100% of the fanbase across the board while making all of the seasoned industry professionals who have actually produced said material look like chumps and noobs.

I mean, if I had that kind of talent and insight into the sales and marketing labyrinth that is the comic book industry I sure as hell wouldn't be sitting in a forum merely talking about what I'd do and whining about how others are "doing it all wrong". I'd pull up my bootstraps and get to work and go make me some of that Mark Millar money, know what I'm sayin'?

Just, when you write your comics, guys, be sure that I like it, okay? I don't care if anybody else likes it or not, alright? This is Godzilla we're talking about and as a fan, my opinion is the only one that really matters, get it?


Joe Quesada and Joseph Loeb. And Mark Millar isn't as good as he once was.

Look those two up and see how they just about ruined perfectly good franchises.

Just because you're in the bizz doesn't mean you're good.


And as stupid and scary of an idea as this may be, I'm sure that there are fans of MJ-less Spiderman and fans of Rulk too.

You guys want to argue taste? I've said this before and I'll reiterate; we're talking comics and Godzilla here. There are plenty of places full of very learned people who would laugh in our faces if we tried to talk high-and-mighty about Godzilla. Taste. You don't get to dictate it any more than I do or anybody else does. As they say, the heart wants what the heart wants, and you can't just call bullshit on people for it. If you do, keep in mind how close to the edge of A-hole hypocrisy you're getting there. This is why it's almost never a good idea to create by committee, especially when that committee are fans. So...

Just because you're a fan of a property doesn't mean you have any business deciding the future of your beloved franchise.
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby MechaGamera » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:08 am

Every fan has a choice in deciding the fate or future of their beloved franchise, The can decide to buy or not to buy. Without a fan base a franchise is nothing. Lets never forget that.
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby Captain Aktion » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:14 am

^Of course.

That fact didn't really come into play with what I was pointing out.

Actually, good way to put it. If you don't like a story, express it by not buying it. However you don't get to decide whether the story should exist at all.
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Re: General IDW Godzilla Comic Discussion

Postby SuperSaiyan4Godzilla » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:32 am

Captain Aktion wrote:
SuperSaiyan4Godzilla wrote:
Captain Aktion wrote:I don't know why more of the posters on here don't submit story-treatments/outlines to IDW.

Many of you obviously know how to, and seem to think you can, create the absolute perfect Godzilla comic that will please 100% of the fanbase across the board while making all of the seasoned industry professionals who have actually produced said material look like chumps and noobs.

I mean, if I had that kind of talent and insight into the sales and marketing labyrinth that is the comic book industry I sure as hell wouldn't be sitting in a forum merely talking about what I'd do and whining about how others are "doing it all wrong". I'd pull up my bootstraps and get to work and go make me some of that Mark Millar money, know what I'm sayin'?

Just, when you write your comics, guys, be sure that I like it, okay? I don't care if anybody else likes it or not, alright? This is Godzilla we're talking about and as a fan, my opinion is the only one that really matters, get it?


Joe Quesada and Joseph Loeb. And Mark Millar isn't as good as he once was.

Look those two up and see how they just about ruined perfectly good franchises.

Just because you're in the bizz doesn't mean you're good.


And as stupid and scary of an idea as this may be, I'm sure that there are fans of MJ-less Spiderman and fans of Rulk too.

You guys want to argue taste? I've said this before and I'll reiterate; we're talking comics and Godzilla here. There are plenty of places full of very learned people who would laugh in our faces if we tried to talk high-and-mighty about Godzilla. Taste. You don't get to dictate it any more than I do or anybody else does. As they say, the heart wants what the heart wants, and you can't just call bullshit on people for it. If you do, keep in mind how close to the edge of A-hole hypocrisy you're getting there. This is why it's almost never a good idea to create by committee, especially when that committee are fans. So...

Just because you're a fan of a property doesn't mean you have any business deciding the future of your beloved franchise.


I'm not arguing your tastes.

I'm arguing your bitching.
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