The NECA Godzilla discussion thread
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The memorial figure doesn't look that much like G84 either.
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What in the world are you smoking?miguelnuva wrote:The memorial figure doesn't look that much like G84 either.
The Memorial Box vinyl is simplified a bit, since there's only so much that can be done with soft vinyl at that size (softer features, the lack of individually sculpted teeth). That said, it gets the overall attitude and personality of that Godzilla, and it does so with something would have cost about $10 if Bandai had sold it at retail with a tag. The NECA looks like the '84 - you certainly aren't going to mistake it for anything - but the lankier body and small fins are just wrong when it comes to this version of Godzilla. And again, while the head is better than that first abomination, those thick teeth look pretty goofy.
I get that not everyone wants to pay what the Memorial Box figure costs these days, but don't be ignorant. Judge it based on what it is, and what it could have cost if sold like any other 6" Bandai vinyl. There's also a ten year difference between it and the NECA. With that in mind, why doesn't the NECA totally blow the Bandai away? Why was Bandai Japan able to make vinyl Heisei Godzillas 20 years ago (and at the same basic price point) that, even with their simplicity, had the hallmarks of the specific suits they were based on, while NECA farts out a "1994" Godzilla that looks like no particular Heisei Godzilla suit ever built?
That's why the NECA Burning Godzilla is such a spectacular failure. The look of that suit was so unique, even outside of the burning parts. The stance, the attitude of face, the unbelievably bulk. They're all part of what I really like that suit, and it's why I love the MA Burning Godzilla so much. NECA just took a sculpt that looked nothing like the base 1994 suit to begin with and slapped the burning colors on it. It's just...lame in a way that you'd never see with a Japanese product.
I'm actually dreading to way NECA would handle a 1964 Godzilla if they ever did one.
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I'd say it's as spot on as any Bandai vinyl to the suit it's based on, in fact even closer than some.miguelnuva wrote:The memorial figure doesn't look that much like G84 either.
The NECA is still off even after improvements, but if you like the '84 enough to want an articulated version it's a great bargain if you don't need 100% accuracy.
Also, to the person questioning it as a $125 figure, hell no, that's scalping price, if ever sold mainstream it'd be like $20-$30 and well worth it. I got lucky and only had to pay $50 for mine.
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and the neca is articulated as hell, i cant wait for it man
also i was comparing the picture a guy posted of g54 showing the neca and the original suit and when taking the size of the feet the hands and the head, is really nailed there i mean it may look weird but the proportions seems right to me
also i was comparing the picture a guy posted of g54 showing the neca and the original suit and when taking the size of the feet the hands and the head, is really nailed there i mean it may look weird but the proportions seems right to me
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Really don't get the complaints with 54 at all..
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On YouTube!gigan72 wrote:What complaints?KingZillla wrote:Really don't get the complaints with 54 at all..
I've literally seen none.
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What? It looks very similar to G84.miguelnuva wrote:The memorial figure doesn't look that much like G84 either.
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<=25% joke. >=75% topic. Even then - that's pushing it.
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g2vd wrote: Wait you are saying the 94 is equivalent to the Monsterarts but yet the 54 looks horrible
Neca http://www.preternia.com/wp-content/upl ... 8/0154.jpg
Shma http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/8 ... L1500_.jpg
Neca http://news.toyark.com/wp-content/uploa ... la-020.jpg
Shma http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/7 ... L1500_.jpg
Neca http://news.toyark.com/wp-content/uploa ... la-041.jpg
Shma http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/8 ... L1500_.jpg
Neca http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jaC9UPKD_2g/V ... G_4768.JPG
Shma http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/8 ... L1500_.jpg
94 https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 30a006ccf4
54http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sgHUl21CHy8/V ... la-005.jpg
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. I don't like the MA Heisei much at all. The tone of the skin, the texture, the head.... The gross gap in the neck.... The see-through knees.... They're all off. Like, a lot. Does Neca's Heisie have some of these problems as well? Yes. But when I look at the Neca 94, I immediately think "Heisei Godzilla", and images from the various movies come flooding back. When I look at MA's Heisei, I see a vaguely Heisei-inspired fan-Godzilla. Is it a nice figure? Yeah, but it doesn't do much for me, and I feel that 94 does a more faithful job with the Heisei style.
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What ever people smoke that causes them to have an opinion.What in the world are you smoking?
Never said the NECA looked better than the Memorial just that the Memorial didn't look that much more like G84 than the NECA. Godzilla 1984 had a level of viciousness and beastly look that I have yet to see a figure get down. If I compared the Memorial figure and the NECA at equal price ranger I would say the Memorial looks better but the Neca has better articulation but neither capture the scary element of the suit to me.The Memorial Box vinyl is simplified a bit, since there's only so much that can be done with soft vinyl at that size (softer features, the lack of individually sculpted teeth). That said, it gets the overall attitude and personality of that Godzilla, and it does so with something would have cost about $10 if Bandai had sold it at retail with a tag. The NECA looks like the '84 - you certainly aren't going to mistake it for anything - but the lankier body and small fins are just wrong when it comes to this version of Godzilla. And again, while the head is better than that first abomination, those thick teeth look pretty goofy.
If were talking about G84 why are you bringing up G94 I never once mentioned that looking like anything also price has nothing to do with the me personally getting the Memorial vs the NECA G84. The Memorial doesn't look that much better to me than the revised NECA that the extra articulation NECA will be bringing outweighs the Memorial box figure looking closer to the suit. Also the spines on the Memorial box don't look that big either.I get that not everyone wants to pay what the Memorial Box figure costs these days, but don't be ignorant. Judge it based on what it is, and what it could have cost if sold like any other 6" Bandai vinyl. There's also a ten year difference between it and the NECA. With that in mind, why doesn't the NECA totally blow the Bandai away? Why was Bandai Japan able to make vinyl Heisei Godzillas 20 years ago (and at the same basic price point) that, even with their simplicity, had the hallmarks of the specific suits they were based on, while NECA farts out a "1994" Godzilla that looks like no particular Heisei Godzilla suit ever built?
I actually agree that the Burning Godzilla on one of Neca's weaker Godzilla figures and I won't be getting it but for $20 and caual collectors it does it's job. My cousin and I both collect Godzilla figures I have SHMAs and he has the BC vynals and now he's getting the NECA figures because I collect and display my figures while he fights with his and while I can see the G95 suit look you see it legion all he sees is Godzilla from when he fought Destroyer. For $20 Burning Godzilla is getting the job done.That's why the NECA Burning Godzilla is such a spectacular failure. The look of that suit was so unique, even outside of the burning parts. The stance, the attitude of face, the unbelievably bulk. They're all part of what I really like that suit, and it's why I love the MA Burning Godzilla so much. NECA just took a sculpt that looked nothing like the base 1994 suit to begin with and slapped the burning colors on it. It's just...lame in a way that you'd never see with a Japanese product.
2014 looks great, they fixed 84 to look good, Heisei Godzilla while not G94 is still a good looking 90's Godzilla, Meltdown Godzilla suffers only because the base Heisei Godzilla look doesn't match the suit perfectly and 54 looks perfect. NECA's trac record so far shows that a G64 should be fine as they are getting better with the Godzilla figures.I'm actually dreading to way NECA would handle a 1964 Godzilla if they ever did one.
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It did? I always felt that the 1984 Godzilla looked pretty bored, almost like he was sleep-walking through downtown Tokyo.miguelnuva wrote:Godzilla 1984 had a level of viciousness and beastly look that I have yet to see a figure get down.
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The Godzilla 1954 figure looks like it took some proportion inspiration from the prototype statue
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Or even the final maquette/ initial suit, which resembled the statue you have posted, and the final suit, which was adjusted to be more humanoid and more like the later suits.GodzillaRangerPrime wrote:The Godzilla 1954 figure looks like it took some proportion inspiration from the prototype statue
http://gforever.net/mirror/kaijukits.co ... to-gp1.jpg
Honestly, after looking at NECA's Classic line, it feels like they base the details of the sculpts more on promotional materials and imagery, rather than on-screen details.
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You guys are sooo picky!
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Based on NECA's '94 and '84, and some parts of the '54, looks like they have issues sculpting legs. Kind of amorphous and roll-y. G's thighs have always been tubby from '84 on, but the sculpts for the NECA's leave a little to be desired. Also, seeing as all their figures have a "4" in them ('14, 94, 84, 54) I'm thinking the figs they will tackle next will be '64 and '74.
Lastly, has anyone noticed that the nails and teeth for the picture of their '94 have the proper color? But the end product is ...teal.
Lastly, has anyone noticed that the nails and teeth for the picture of their '94 have the proper color? But the end product is ...teal.
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I'll admit that the G84 could be better, but since they changed it, NECA is getting my $20. Good enough...
Loving the G54! Articulation points aside, I think it looks great! ANOTHER $20 for NECA...
Loving the G54! Articulation points aside, I think it looks great! ANOTHER $20 for NECA...
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C'mon people! Stop complaining over the littlest things. NECA is actually giving us some awesome Godzilla figures at a reasonable price! I think they are spot on. The Godzilla 54 feet are a millimeter too big?! Who cares?! People would probably complain if a freaking tail bump was too small...
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I gotta agree with you on this one I cant make myself care about some of these gripes. As far as I'm concerned I won't ever collect the shma line because it's far more expensive and godzilla isn't my primary collection. But i want articulation in my figure so vinyl isn't the answer. As long as we don't even a repeat of the 84 I'm pretty satisfied with this line up!codycameron09 wrote:C'mon people! Stop complaining over the littlest things. NECA is actually giving us some awesome Godzilla figures at a reasonable price! I think they are spot on. The Godzilla 54 feet are a millimeter too big?! Who cares?! People would probably complain if a freaking tail bump was too small...
I just want an affordable little army of godzillas to invade my desk i even kinda like the burning godzilla. Sure his suit isn't accurate but I knew they wouldn't resculpt him and I didn't really care!
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^ Totally agree! not everyone has the money to shell out for SHMA's (the only SHMA i have are G14 and Mothra) expensive figures.
I can't believe some people would compare a $20 figure to a $120/180 figure. that's just not fair! you guys are almost as nit picky as the Sonic fan base. Jeez!
I can't believe some people would compare a $20 figure to a $120/180 figure. that's just not fair! you guys are almost as nit picky as the Sonic fan base. Jeez!
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I disagreed with you on everything the tone and texture that is what the suits were like and what is wrong with the head and the gap in the neck can be fixed permanently by moving the neck around and yes the gap in the legs is annoying.Vatarian wrote:g2vd wrote: Wait you are saying the 94 is equivalent to the Monsterarts but yet the 54 looks horrible
Neca http://www.preternia.com/wp-content/upl ... 8/0154.jpg
Shma http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/8 ... L1500_.jpg
Neca http://news.toyark.com/wp-content/uploa ... la-020.jpg
Shma http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/7 ... L1500_.jpg
Neca http://news.toyark.com/wp-content/uploa ... la-041.jpg
Shma http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/8 ... L1500_.jpg
Neca http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jaC9UPKD_2g/V ... G_4768.JPG
Shma http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/8 ... L1500_.jpg
94 https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 30a006ccf4
54http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sgHUl21CHy8/V ... la-005.jpg
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. I don't like the MA Heisei much at all. The tone of the skin, the texture, the head.... The gross gap in the neck.... The see-through knees.... They're all off. Like, a lot. Does Neca's Heisie have some of these problems as well? Yes. But when I look at the Neca 94, I immediately think "Heisei Godzilla", and images from the various movies come flooding back. When I look at MA's Heisei, I see a vaguely Heisei-inspired fan-Godzilla. Is it a nice figure? Yeah, but it doesn't do much for me, and I feel that 94 does a more faithful job with the Heisei style.
the Neca Godzilla is more stylized while it gets the texture right in some areas it fails in others I actually like I do like the 94 figure a lot but as something equivalent to the MonsterArts figure no it does not have the same amount of detail nor the amount of accuracy when you look at this http://www.preternia.com/wp-content/upl ... 8/0154.jpg
do you see this http://sistemaperalta.files.wordpress.c ... 1_5001.jpg
but when I look at the MonsterArts I see it http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/8 ... L1500_.jpg
also how do you think that 54 is a downgrade in detail and sculpt quality the thing looks amazing it looks even better than the 2014 6 inch.
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Welcome to the Godzilla fandom.KingZillla wrote:^ Totally agree! not everyone has the money to shell out for SHMA's (the only SHMA i have are G14 and Mothra) expensive figures.
I can't believe some people would compare a $20 figure to a $120/180 figure. that's just not fair! you guys are almost as nit picky as the Sonic fan base. Jeez!
Besides, I see nothing wrong with comparing the two provided the price point is kept in mind. NECA can do better than Tamashii, just look at G14. While I'm still not overly fond of NECA's 6" G14, their 12" is impressive.
One of the biggest downsides to NECA's line is the simple fact they can't do other monsters, just Godzilla. So if you want articulated Mothra or other monsters, SHMA is the only option.
I will explain slowly why you are wrong.