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Re: IDW Brings Back Godzilla, but Japan Resurrects Ultraman?

Postby ゴジラ » Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:47 am

Primevalgodzilla V2 wrote:This isn't really Ultraman. Its a giant robot series wannabe.


Though some may despair, but this is Ultraman lol
Sure, the mech touch is a bit heavily implied, but readers and fans in Japan have mostly warmed up and accepted this new incarnation. (And direction)

The series is still going, so who knows, if given a chance some of you might be able to tolerate it and perhaps enjoy it.
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To be honest, it will take me some time to warm up to this direction, but I'll give it a shot. I know some people at mangastream.com who have the first issue(Two of them subscribed to Hero's Magazine), I'll contact them to see if they could translate it and post it up on their site for everyone else to read.
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Re: IDW Brings Back Godzilla, but Japan Resurrects Ultraman?

Postby Tormentor » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:01 am

wataru wrote:Is anyone READING the OP or just looking at the pics?

READ IT, ya mooks.


I think the shock of this new take is just too much for them lol

Still....I'll be honest. I am highly interested in reading into this manga. If the story is interesting, bares decent characters and character development, along with entertaining giant battles. Then I'm all on board with this! Plus the art does look pretty firm and strong enough to carry this series as well.

The actual design of this new ultraman, mmm...Its surprisingly decent. Not too keen on it, but It is a new take upon the character after all, and I find it to be interesting. Don't dislike it or hate it, I'm kinda welcoming it. Thankfully within a universe in which Ultraman and its history has already been established, hopefully the story will move along a more smooth pace. (unlike the IDW Godzilla comics). Thank god I know a few translators on the net :lol:

Thanks Gojira for letting us know about this manga, and I agree, I can see this working into an anime if its positively received enough. Let's hope so!
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Re: IDW Brings Back Godzilla, but Japan Resurrects Ultraman?

Postby RedZillaKing » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:02 am

The Zettonian looks sick there.
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Re: IDW Brings Back Godzilla, but Japan Resurrects Ultraman?

Postby Tyler » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:03 am

Looks cool to me. Even the original had a biomechanical thing going.
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Re: IDW Brings Back Godzilla, but Japan Resurrects Ultraman?

Postby antovald20 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:21 am

I'm not really a Ultraman fan, but this looks incredible.
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Re: IDW Brings Back Godzilla, but Japan Resurrects Ultraman?

Postby Blackout286 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:21 am

There's been 8 chapters thus far, the latest chapter (the 8th one) was released on the 18th of July last month. Gotta a lot to catch up on. Hopefully this series will bare Gomora :D Love to see him in this new manga.

Color me interested, I want to read this manga. The new incarnation of the Ultraman character doesn't seem as bad as a few of you here are making it out to be lol.
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Re: IDW Brings Back Godzilla, but Japan Resurrects Ultraman?

Postby Megaton17 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:29 am

The design is great, but it doesn't work as Ultraman.

Nonetheless, I'm interested.
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Re: IDW Brings Back Godzilla, but Japan Resurrects Ultraman?

Postby Tormentor » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:49 am

Megaton17 wrote:The design is great, but it doesn't work as Ultraman.

Nonetheless, I'm interested.


Mmm...As a modern take upon Ultraman, it can work. It just takes a while to warm up to is all lol.
Makes me wonder how any other classical monsters will be handled. Will they be classic? Or lightly updated a bit through the manga's art style?
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Re: IDW Brings Back Godzilla, but Japan Resurrects Ultraman?

Postby Lord Gappa » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:03 pm

For a modern retelling of Ultraman, this sounds pretty interesting. I'm also kinda digging the mecha-like design, seeing as Ultraman had some machinic qualities going with him.
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Re: IDW Brings Back Godzilla, but Japan Resurrects Ultraman?

Postby ゴジラ » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:51 pm

Still find this manga to be slightly more interesting than "Another Genesis", thanks to Blackout with the info that there has been 8 chapters thus far, once an english translation has been done, then some of you can give your thoughts on it. I know a few translators working on making english versions of the chapters thus far.
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Re: IDW Brings Back Godzilla, but Japan Resurrects Ultraman?

Postby wataru » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:55 pm

Yes that design totally doesnt work for Ultraman.

Ultraman MUST be a giant alien in red and silver spandex with a voice changer, Life-Alert pendant and goofy device to transform!
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Re: IDW Brings Back Godzilla, but Japan Resurrects Ultraman?

Postby Blackout286 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:06 pm

wataru wrote:Yes that design totally doesnt work for Ultraman.

Ultraman MUST be a giant alien in red and silver spandex with a voice changer, Life-Alert pendant and goofy device to transform!


Pretty much my thoughts lol Still, hopefully no one will treat this Ultraman like Zilla or something. Its still within the source material's universe, the only difference is that the character is birth through a different way. Besides, its not just any normal bio-suit...The ting pretty much has a mind of its own when things kick into overdrive after its formed over its host. Extremely aggressive, but firm in strikes and quick-ness. Rarely merciful.

Mmm...Kinda sounds familiar.
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Re: IDW Brings Back Godzilla, but Japan Resurrects Ultraman?

Postby ghidorasauras » Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:10 pm

^ DAMN STRAIGHT! Jokes aside, this series actually looks pretty awesome IMO. But what do I know, I just started getting into Ultraman ;)
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Re: Modern Ultraman Manga Chapter 1 English Up!

Postby ゴジラ » Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:10 am

If anyone is interested in reading, then check the link below
http://www.heros-web.com/en/works/ultraman.html

Click Ultraman Episode 1 (English), comment below and let us know what you think about it.
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Re: Modern Ultraman Manga Chapter 1 English Up!

Postby Primevalgodzilla V2 » Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:17 am

Though some may despair, but this is Ultraman lol
Sure, the mech touch is a bit heavily implied, but readers and fans in Japan have mostly warmed up and accepted this new incarnation. (And direction)


Although he's been in over ten different universes each with slightly different takes on him, Ultraman has never been a man-made cyborg in some typical generic mech anime setting.

Of course this is Ultraman. But then Emmerich's creation is also Godzilla.

Pretty much my thoughts lol Still, hopefully no one will treat this Ultraman like Zilla or something. Its still within the source material's universe, the only difference is that the character is birth through a different way. Besides, its not just any normal bio-suit...The ting pretty much has a mind of its own when things kick into overdrive after its formed over its host. Extremely aggressive, but firm in strikes and quick-ness. Rarely merciful.


...Evangelion, is that you?

Also, rage-tinted glasses GINO was more Godzilla than this is Ultraman (In fact, considering the only real travesty GINO had was dying by missiles and being anorexic, it could otherwise been a decent Godzilla film).
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Re: Modern Ultraman Manga Chapter 1 English Up!

Postby Tormentor » Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:48 am

Primevalgodzilla V2 wrote:
Though some may despair, but this is Ultraman lol
Sure, the mech touch is a bit heavily implied, but readers and fans in Japan have mostly warmed up and accepted this new incarnation. (And direction)


Although he's been in over ten different universes each with slightly different takes on him, Ultraman has never been a man-made cyborg in some typical generic mech anime setting.

Of course this is Ultraman. But then Emmerich's creation is also Godzilla.

Pretty much my thoughts lol Still, hopefully no one will treat this Ultraman like Zilla or something. Its still within the source material's universe, the only difference is that the character is birth through a different way. Besides, its not just any normal bio-suit...The ting pretty much has a mind of its own when things kick into overdrive after its formed over its host. Extremely aggressive, but firm in strikes and quick-ness. Rarely merciful.


...Evangelion, is that you?

Also, rage-tinted glasses GINO was more Godzilla than this is Ultraman (In fact, considering the only real travesty GINO had was dying by missiles and being anorexic, it could otherwise been a decent Godzilla film).


Yeah, here's the difference between Evangelion and this thing here, the bio suit only takes a mind of its own when its host is no longer capable of consciously fighting and no longer receives orders from the Ultra genes within his hosts body that are given out through brain waves. It does this to preserve itself and protectively guard its host. Beyond that, this Ultraman doesn't eat or devour any parts of its opponents whenever its damaged. So, yeah.

At least give this thing a chance before completely writing it off as an abomination within your book. Ultraman still exists within this new series, the same alien and man in suit appearance and all of its glory. But this new Ultraman is simply for Shin's involvement within the universe, he's not replacing what's already been established but he's carrying it onward through his own story. GINO in the least did not do this since it was trying to rewrite the entire history of Gojira itself. (which of course is obvious since it was somewhat of a remark). And from most of the reactions on Japanese forums/manga forums that are following this, the reaction as stated before has been heavily positive. Sure, some fans will be displeased or butt hurt, acting like this is the New DmC Dante (Except that the reactions are the opposite of each other when comparing these two: Ultraman mostly positive, Dmc somewhat mostly negative), but hey, can't please everyone. But at least look into things before calling it generic and all of that white noise, you might become interested later on.

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Anyway, read the chapter. Pretty decent translations there Gojira, although some sentences weren't crafted out well enough, and misspelled Zetton twice or so. But overall, I'm sure Ultraman fans or daikaiju fans will be interested in investing within this series. If not for the new direction, then simply because this seems more interesting than the IDW Godzilla comics currently.
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Re: Modern Ultraman Manga Chapter 1 English Up!

Postby ゴジラ » Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:09 am

Yeah, the translators weren't all that "active", (been mostly busy, but feedback has been given, mostly from fans even before my input commenting on those sentence structures, and getting Zetton's name right). Hopefully they'll improve the next time around. :)

And well PGV2, I did comment on what you previously said with "Well, to each his own" when you displayed your view point on the story. The comments before the one you did today. So I don't know where to go from there. You voiced yourself loud and clear, and um, have a good day?
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Re: Modern Ultraman Manga Chapter 1 English Up!

Postby Primevalgodzilla V2 » Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:15 am

And well PGV2, I did comment on what you previously said with "Well, to each his own" when you displayed your view point on the story. The comments before the one you did today. So I don't know where to go from there. You voiced yourself loud and clear, and um, have a good day?


Well, that doesn;t mean I can;t continue voicing my opinion. ;)

Yeah, here's the difference between Evangelion and this thing here, the bio suit only takes a mind of its own when its host is no longer capable of consciously fighting and no longer receives orders from the Ultra genes within his hosts body that are given out through brain waves. It does this to preserve itself and protectively guard its host. Beyond that, this Ultraman doesn't eat or devour any parts of its opponents whenever its damaged. So, yeah.


So, slight, inconsequential differences?

In any case, the Eva unit lives and breathes all the time, but only actively appears alive in berserk mode, so its essentially the same thing. And not eating his foes doesn;t change the fact ti sounds an awful lot like an Evangelion-wannabe. It doesn't need to be a 100% carbon copy to give that impression.

At least give this thing a chance before completely writing it off as an abomination within your book. Ultraman still exists within this new series, the same alien and man in suit appearance and all of its glory. But this new Ultraman is simply for Shin's involvement within the universe, he's not replacing what's already been established but he's carrying it onward through his own story. GINO in the least did not do this since it was trying to rewrite the entire history of Gojira itself. (which of course is obvious since it was somewhat of a remark).


I don't see any problem with what GINO did. Obviously, it wasn;t going to take place in the universe of Gojira (which is refreshing for a change), but still follows the basic concept once you get past the design, which isn't that much of a travesty as far as Hollywood adaptations are concerned.


And from most of the reactions on Japanese forums/manga forums that are following this, the reaction as stated before has been heavily positive. Sure, some fans will be displeased or butt hurt, acting like this is the New DmC Dante (Except that the reactions are the opposite of each other when comparing these two: Ultraman mostly positive, Dmc somewhat mostly negative), but hey, can't please everyone. But at least look into things before calling it generic and all of that white noise, you might become interested later on.


Sorry if I'm not the type to be swayed by general opinion. Especially since the Japanese love their giant mecha animes. And how is my opinion any more 'white noise' than yours?
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Re: Modern Ultraman Manga Chapter 1 English Up!

Postby RedZillaKing » Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:49 am

Read through it. Was pretty damned cool, tbh. Very respectful to the source material. Assuming some cook updates to classic monsters show up this could be a worthy sequel to Ultraman.
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Re: Modern Ultraman Manga Chapter 1 English Up!

Postby Tormentor » Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:07 am

Primevalgodzilla V2"]

The bio suit is a creation that symbiotically interacts with the Ultra DNA, yes it lives and breaths like Eva Unit (Or like any other symbiotic matter that functions with a host), but works within the style of the venom symbiosis. It learns whatever its host knows, language, personally life, thoughts, interest, fears, pretty much learns everything unless the host tries to block out the connection mentally. It will try to make sense of the world around it, learn what is right, what is wrong, why does this happen, or why does that happen. What are emotions? Why do people betray loved ones or kill their own kind? It already knows instinctively that its a protector of the world/galaxy due to the Ultra DNA, but it will question things, like if the horrible world around it is worth saving, even questioning if mankind is worth protecting when they themselves are gradually eradicating one another in their own ways. Why do others find joy and happiness among the ending of another life form's existence? Why protect the existence of something that's equally guilty of the crimes that another existence has displayed? It will try to find logical reasoning when dealing with things that are dark or purely negative since often it will constantly bring up the never satisfied question: The things I'm doing, am I really serving the side of justice, or perhaps something worse?

Simply put, it learns, it grows, and soon develops its own unique self as it matures through its host and the world its lives within. Growing smarter, becoming more self-aware, and even develops its own view point upon everything.

Umm, GINO followed basic concepts? Running away from the military? Asexually pregnant? Lacking symbolic embodiment of the destruction of the nuclear bomb/ or nuclear warefare? Or simply being a powerful titan/ force of nature? And mostly just eating fish and while trying to build a nest? If you just mean the nuclear origin, then yeah a little. But everything else, I have to disagree completely. It was pretty much Jurassic Park meets some influence of Godzilla. I'm open minded enough to accept its take, it tries to be different while being a blockbuster film. As a monster film, its okay, as Godzilla then I have to beg to differ.

My opinion isn't much white noise since I'm actually giving the product a chance and willing to experience it completely than to just reap it off the back. I did the same with GINO and was disappointed, I'm doing it with Ultraman and thus far its pretty good. White noise to me, is just someone not simply giving something a chance regardless of it being different from what they prefer. They'll say the same thing, normally what their original view point, and will just keep playing the same song with little to no sign of actually experiencing the subject at hand. If they do, then hey, their words have ground and they went through it. Can't say anything. Hell, I prefer Ultraman to stay within its alien/man in suit take, but I'm still open minded enough to see through a different direction if things set up for it. I'm not shutting it out just like that.

But said said before, to each his own I suppose.
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