New kaiju game from Matt Frank + Simon Strange [Archive]

[Lenbo]

I was thinking about this, and wondering if maybe because the visual style tries to present itself as "realistic" that maybe some expect the monsters to act "realistic" as well? Some things may look silly because they're being done in an... ATMOSPHERE that leads one to not expect it. So... if THAT'S the issue, then maybe the visual style should be less ...serious. So it's not taken as seriously.

You brought up the visual style of the game, and that's something I was thinking about too. How will this new game look?

I agree with you that the visual style doesn't need to be too serious. StE and G:U visually were more realistic and much darker than G:DAMM.

I felt that G:DAMM for Gamecube was the most visually appealing out of all the Pipeworks Godzilla games. It had a very bright, clean look to it. The lighting and the monsters didn't have all that cluttered, bumpy texturing they received in the subsequent games. The night stages had a cool neon, slick appearance to them.

StE had a rather muddy, messy look to a lot of the monsters and stages. I think that had a lot to do with the fact that it had to be made to work on PS2's limited hardware capabilities.

Unleashed was a step in the right direction, but I still felt the environments looked murky, and some of the monster's features were difficult to make out.

What do other people think? G:DAMM arguably looked the least realistic, but I felt it was the most aesthetically appealing. For a game that's supposed to be a fun brawler, G:DAMM on Gamecube nailed it visually.

With Matt Frank spear-heading the art direction, I think this game could return to a less gloomy looking Godzilla battling game. I'm looking forward to seeing what he has in mind for this game's look.

- Lenbo

[matrix]

You guys are going to hate me but, I like G:StE coloring of the monsters best, because I like it better dark, the other 2 were bright, and godzilla movies are dark too.

[Goji]

STE was not that visually different from DAM:M...in fact, the Xbox version looked better than both versions of DAM:M.

[Blackout286]

Well Lenbo, I'll say that G:DAMM's graphics are good, especially the monsters. I felt that Godzilla 90's, and a handful of other monsters looked great. And everything mostly did look smooth, especially during a fight whenever the camera would close in, or during the slow replays. You could see the mostly smooth texture of the monsters and everything.

But personally for me, I felt that G:U had the better visual presentation of both monsters and the game's environments.

Although like you Lenbo, I'm curious in seeing what Matt can dish for this possible game, but still I can't help but feel disappointed that there's little to no chance of Toho allowing Matt to design how the monsters appearance will look like in the game. A Godzilla animated/anime-ish like fighting would have been awesome to experience. But there is always DLC if there's enough funding and if enough people demand it.

[Living Corpse]

Guys, would you be cool with a bonus boss that you fight after meeting the right conditions, like beat the game on hard mode?

[godzilla898]

Guys, would you be cool with a bonus boss that you fight after meeting the right conditions, like beat the game on hard mode?

Depending on the monster used, YES.

[PopInPicsPresents]

Guys, would you be cool with a bonus boss that you fight after meeting the right conditions, like beat the game on hard mode?

Depending on the monster used, YES.

I don't care what monster is used, I care how it's used.

[miguelnuva]

Guys, would you be cool with a bonus boss that you fight after meeting the right conditions, like beat the game on hard mode?

Oorchi or maybe Super Godzilla would be cool for a final boss. As much as I would like to use Bagan I'm starting to think he couldn't leave up to all the hype.

Now Orochi or Super Godzilla following Matt Frank's origins sound like terrible beasts to take on. Super Godzilla could be the 1954 Goji corpse added with King Ghidorah cells or something along those lines while Orochi is just a huge eight headed dragon who can shoot Fire, Ice, Lighting, Air, Earth, Water, Light and Darkness from his heads.

[hammysammy59]

Yeah, put me down for liking DAMM's graphics the best too. Of course it's not the most technically impressive, but it has a really clean, finished look. It looks very complete, and I like how the colors complement each other.

I love the sound of Orochi as a secret super-boss.... but it sounds like resources that go into a boss-only character will take away from resources that could be building more playable monsters.

[PopInPicsPresents]

Guys, would you be cool with a bonus boss that you fight after meeting the right conditions, like beat the game on hard mode?

Oorchi or maybe Super Godzilla would be cool for a final boss. As much as I would like to use Bagan I'm starting to think he couldn't leave up to all the hype.

Now Orochi or Super Godzilla following Matt Frank's origins sound like terrible beasts to take on. Super Godzilla could be the 1954 Goji corpse added with King Ghidorah cells or something along those lines while Orochi is just a huge eight headed dragon who can shoot Fire, Ice, Lighting, Air, Earth, Water, Light and Darkness from his heads.

How would it shoot Earth from its head?

[Showa Gyaos]

Grayshot! You forgot Maguma from Gorath!

[miguelnuva]

Guys, would you be cool with a bonus boss that you fight after meeting the right conditions, like beat the game on hard mode?

Oorchi or maybe Super Godzilla would be cool for a final boss. As much as I would like to use Bagan I'm starting to think he couldn't leave up to all the hype.

Now Orochi or Super Godzilla following Matt Frank's origins sound like terrible beasts to take on. Super Godzilla could be the 1954 Goji corpse added with King Ghidorah cells or something along those lines while Orochi is just a huge eight headed dragon who can shoot Fire, Ice, Lighting, Air, Earth, Water, Light and Darkness from his heads.

How would it shoot Earth from its head?

Just shoot like rocks from his head or stone fireballs for example

[hammysammy59]

That head could just vomit dirt. It wouldn't hurt, but your monster would be grossed out and feel bad for that Orochi head.

[hammysammy59]

Joke or not, I feel like if we can come up with a decent moveset for Ebirah, we could TOTALLY put something together for Maguma. That said, maybe he's better suited as a cameo or a summon.

[Oasis_S]

I felt that G:DAMM for Gamecube was the most visually appealing out of all the Pipeworks Godzilla games. It had a very bright, clean look to it. The lighting and the monsters didn't have all that cluttered, bumpy texturing they received in the subsequent games. The night stages had a cool neon, slick appearance to them.

I agree completely. I remember being surprised that StE's visuals seemed like a step down. While not a MAJOR issue, sometimes it felt like the monsters didn't stand out from their environment. I DUNNO, maybe I'm just a sucker for more simple styles, lol.

Though I remember Unleashed being pretty good? Always wanted the lighting effects to be amazing. What with so many BEAMS flying around. AGAIN, DON'T REMEMBER UNLEASHED VERY WELL (I guess I didn't play it as much as I thought I did, lol) but used to the only... light emitting... points? were from the monster's mouth and from where the beam made contact with whatever else. Wanted to stroll around New York City at night, with the soft glow of Obsidius's lava cast on the buildings. :V

Also, while Matt Frank is a great artist and his redesigns are neat, I kind of hope he sticks closer to the source material.

[Oasis_S]

Since the stages, as I understand, are going to be more varied and reflect ...biomes? rather than cities, then an ARCTIC stage is pretty obvious.

Maguma should make an easter egg appearance there, lol. Maybe if you destroy a particular icy mound with a fire attack.

[Goji]

I love the sound of Orochi as a secret super-boss.... but it sounds like resources that go into a boss-only character will take away from resources that could be building more playable monsters.

How bout something actually from the Godzilla universe. Orochi has eight heads..that would be a lot of work for one monster that's never even been in a Godzilla film.Orochi is a terrible idea.

What's wrong with Keizer Ghidorah? Everyone hates him, and this way, we get a Godzilla monster, and we get to kick his ass. Its a win-win situation. I'm pretty sure that TK user Destoryer is the only one that cares about having him playable anyway.

[hammysammy59]

I like that idea. Maybe once he appears he could be a stage hazard, sinkin' those big ol' tusks into any monster that wanders too close.

[hammysammy59]

Over in the monster tally thread, Maguma was brought up as a potential joke/cameo monster in an arctic level, and then I piggy-backed off that idea and suggested he could be a stage hazard. What do you guys think of having damage-dealing stage hazards in the game? We've had them in the Pipeworks games in the form of lava pits, and I'd like to have them in the new game as well. It'd be an awesome way to work in lesser monsters like Maguma--maybe if you damage him enough he'll wander off for a while?

Dogora would be sweet as a stage hazard as well.

[Oasis_S]

You know, what if Monster X is the final boss (since apparently people are getting tired of SpaceGodzilla even though he fits that role pretty well...) and then, if you beat Action Mode on HARD, he'll "transform" into Keizer Ghidorah (probably just as a cutscene). Doesn't even necessarily have to act like a normal, playable monster. Though STE didn't handle those type of things very well, lol. I was just thinking you'd use your beam to destroy the heads, while avoiding getting attacked yourself. Kind of boring on paper. :V

But if Keizer Ghidorah was a separate character, then that'd be a nice way to unlock him.

Speaking of CAMEOS, it'd be neat if Monster Island had cameos of "lesser" monsters sitting on the sidelines watching the battle. It would set it apart from the other environments. I... would think it'd be fairly simple if one of those particular monsters were playable, and used on Monster Island, then they wouldn't appear on the sidelines?

Y'know, have Varan flying around, Baragon digging a hole, Gorosaurus watching the battle cheering you on with roars, Manda swimming around... OH! Stage Hazard: Ebirah pops out of the water and tosses a rock at someone.

Ebirah Volleyball should have been a challenge. BD