Godzilla 2: War of the Monsters

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Re: Godzilla 2: War of the Monsters

Postby toho_guy01 » Sat May 09, 2015 12:49 pm

I kinda like it. The gameplay can be really good if your into strategy games and has a few good things like the graphics and even the monster selection. All in all, a decent game.
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Re: Godzilla 2: War of the Monsters

Postby Tatsunoshi » Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:07 pm

I love this game. ADORE it! My all-time favorite Godzilla vid game, as I'm both a wargamer and a kaiju fan (which is why I also like the Mothra Vs Godzilla and Godzilla Electronic Battle Game, as they're also military/kaiju hybrids). Utilizing basic military strategy, it's a cinch to kill every monster in every level without losing a single unit of your own, base, or even a city square (except for those lost when a monster moves first in the level before you can). While most kaiju gamers like to fight as the monsters, I prefer fighting as the military and take down the monsters.

Most people I've seen playing this just throw their units into straightforward agressive attacks against the monsters and act all shocked when they lose in a few turns. The key is to use the weak units (fighters, bombers, tanks) as they're intended to be used-defensive units, to DELAY monsters while more powerful units (maser, SY-3, Mothra Eggs, Super-X, etc) are developed. Never attack with the weak units-absorb damage with them, pull them out of the line and resupply them at a base while you rotate another into the line (since a monster can only attack one unit a turn...as long as you don't attack it). This keeps the monster pinned down and gives your bases the time they need to get those superweapons produced. And always use the units special features-don't waste them in futile attacks. Use the trailer to haul the A-Bomb or to transport parts faster to the bases. Use the radar to freeze Ghidorah, find the Mothra eggs, or ferret out Baragon. Use the freeze ray on Hedorah, and never attack him when he's in the water. Use the Super-X against beam monsters, attack with it only if you can take out a weakened enemy, otherwise only use reflect on defense (especially against the UFO...often one shot kills there). And while the SY-3 is powerful, it needs to be resupplied after taking several rounds of damage and should never be risked at low power. Mothra (as an ally) works great to web and freeze enemies and adult Mothra can cause massive suicide attack damage in a rough spot.

The only Godzilla game I like better is the PC disk version "Godzilla", which is pretty much the same game but with a lot more options and way better graphics.

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Re: Godzilla 2: War of the Monsters

Postby Showa Gyaos » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:02 am

Honestly, it wouldn't bother me as much if it weren't touted as a sequel to Godzilla: Monster of Monsters. In that game, Godzilla and Mothra are heroes. In Godzilla 2, that narrative is completely ignored without any context given between both titles.
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Re: Godzilla 2: War of the Monsters

Postby BurningGMK54 » Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:54 pm

Tatsunoshi wrote:I love this game. ADORE it! My all-time favorite Godzilla vid game, as I'm both a wargamer and a kaiju fan (which is why I also like the Mothra Vs Godzilla and Godzilla Electronic Battle Game, as they're also military/kaiju hybrids). Utilizing basic military strategy, it's a cinch to kill every monster in every level without losing a single unit of your own, base, or even a city square (except for those lost when a monster moves first in the level before you can). While most kaiju gamers like to fight as the monsters, I prefer fighting as the military and take down the monsters.

Out of curiosity, what's your opinion on some of the other Godzilla strategy games out there that you didn't mention like Godzilla: Giant Monster March or Godzilla: Archipelago Shock?

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Re: Godzilla 2: War of the Monsters

Postby CheetoKamper » Thu Oct 01, 2015 8:45 pm

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He's also kinda bad at the games he does play too, I've noticed.


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Re: Godzilla 2: War of the Monsters

Postby Tatsunoshi » Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:14 pm

BurningGMK54 wrote:Out of curiosity, what's your opinion on some of the other Godzilla strategy games out there that you didn't mention like Godzilla: Giant Monster March or Godzilla: Archipelago Shock?


Godzilla: MOM was actually a better game overall than Godzilla 2 but three things kept it from surpassing it in my opinion-
1) It was a Game Gear game...at the end of the day when I want to relax with some gaming, I want it on my TV set, not a small screen.
2) For a strategy game, I preferred the slot machine mechanic of G2 to the goofy combat of MOM-it better simulated the dice mechanic that's an integral part of most every wargame (which in itself simulates the uncertainy of combat and the role luck and random chance plays).
3) Only 5 Godzilla scenarios versus 12 in G2, and G2 did scenarios for other Toho films like Mothra and Rodan.
It's still a great game. In color, cool levels based on the actual films (Godzilla Tower!). Nice variety of monsters and extensive choices of weaponry. Music was cool, recreating the movie military marches. I like how the military units didn't have health bars but numbers of vehicles (more realistic), and how you needed to restock with vehicles instead of 'resting'. Letting the monsters automatically destroy a resupplying unit they could reach was also a nice realistic touch. Best of all, you can play as either Godzilla or the JSDF, so there's the best of both worlds. I still play this sometimes on the long plane trips to and from Japan.

Godzilla: Archipelago Shock is also a favorite, although I miss any real strategic elements. Great music straight from the films, monsters, and weaponry. An immersive real-time tactical warfare game that gives you a sense of immediacy, at times chaotic and overwhelming just like real combat. The addition of using your own Mechakaiju was most welcome. I haven't played this in a lot of years since my Saturn burned out years ago, but after having got my Turbo-Duo G-game running on my PC, I see you can do the same thing for the Saturn...so I'll likely be firing it up this weekend.

Even though this wasn't brought up, I'll bring the Gamera-Gyaos SNES strategy/tactical game into the conversation. This had some great concepts-every level added to an ongoing narrative, you had a base with advisors and scientists, could use your resource points to either manufacture units in-game or sink into research for more powerful weapons, rescuing important characters that helped your effort down the road, and levels straight from not only Gamera 95 but some of the early Showa films. But all the good was undermined by the fact that you couldn't actually harm the monsters (just get their attention, lead them on a chase so traps could be deployed, and lead them into a trap), and that you could easily win the game with just one lowest-ranked tank unit per level.

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Re: Godzilla 2: War of the Monsters

Postby AWMGodzilla62 » Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:35 am

Tatsunoshi wrote:The only Godzilla game I like better is the PC disk version "Godzilla", which is pretty much the same game but with a lot more options and way better graphics.


Which game is this that's like Godzilla 2 on PC? Have any links on information on this game?

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Re: Godzilla 2: War of the Monsters

Postby Tatsunoshi » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:15 am

AWMGodzilla62 wrote:Which game is this that's like Godzilla 2 on PC? Have any links on information on this game?


More specifically, it's PC9800...a very popular Japanese computer from the 90's with a huge library of games. It can be played on older regular PC's that have 'hard floppy' disk slots with a little work. I usually use my wife's PC9800 to play (still workin' after all these years).

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This game has the best variety of scenarios of any Godzilla strategy game, including quite a few non-Godzilla tokusatsu films:

1) Mothra Vs Godzilla (64)
2) Great Monster War (Invasion of Astro-Monster)
3) Godzilla Vs Mechagodzilla (74)
4) Godzilla 1984
5) Godzilla Vs Biollante (Lake Ashi Battle)
6) Godzilla Vs Biollante (Takahama Nuclear Plant Defense)
7) Godzilla Vs King Ghidorah
8) Godzilla Vs Mecha-King Ghidorah
9) Godzilla Vs Mothra (92)
10) Radon, Giant Monster of the Sky
11) Giant Monster Varan
12) Sanda Vs Gaira (War of the Gargantuans)(Initiation of Operation L)
13) Earth Defense Force (The Mysterians) (1: Defensive Battle Stage)
14) Earth Defense Force (The Mysterians) (2: Class Beta: Permission for Takeoff)

Our copy also has the bonus disc that came with the first editions, with a few more additions to the game.

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Re: Godzilla 2: War of the Monsters

Postby AWMGodzilla62 » Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:05 pm

Wow! So cool. I'll have to hunt for that game now. Do you play just the military, or can you play as Godzilla too?

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Re: Godzilla 2: War of the Monsters

Postby Tatsunoshi » Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:52 am

AWMGodzilla62 wrote:Wow! So cool. I'll have to hunt for that game now. Do you play just the military, or can you play as Godzilla too?


Both.

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Re: Godzilla 2: War of the Monsters

Postby Living Corpse » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:21 pm

1. I wish the Rodan game was made instead of slowly being turned into Godzilla 2, I like it when someone who isn't the main character gets a spin off game and it's interesting having Rodan be the main in his own game with what I assume would have had Godzilla as the final boss cause hey Godzilla is final boss material in his own right..

2. I actually would be cool with another Godzilla game where you are the military. Summon help from Mothra, build Super-X's and Masers, make Mechagodzilla and Mecha-King Ghidorah, Moguera. Build the T.C. Mines, create the A.N.E.B.
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Re: Godzilla 2: War of the Monsters

Postby Thanos6 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:05 pm

This was the first strategy game I ever played, and was one...interesting way to be introduced to the genre. Yes, it's definitely a different game from its predecessor, but I enjoyed it.

It must be said, it's one of those games where you absolutely must read the manual.

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Re: Godzilla 2: War of the Monsters

Postby Red-Death Gigan » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:43 am

Fond memories of this game. Loved the level with 2 Mothra Larvae & 1 Adult Mothra.
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