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What would it take?

Postby gatorzilla » Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:23 pm

I was thinking tonight....what would it take to get Godzilla's popularity back to where it was in the 90's? Either close to it or even greater.

My thoughts is that it would take a good trilogy of American movies to bring it back. Look at Transformers and Nolan's Batman movies for example. The popularity of both franchises is at an all time high. I think Godzilla can do the same but what do you guys think? I wana see Godzilla stuff in stores and on the big screen again.
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Re: What would it take?

Postby DaveTheAnalyzer » Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:39 pm

To 90s popularity...an ad blitz, good writing, etc. It seems there's been a nostalgia kick for stuff that has been produced in the seventies, eighties, and nineties. Maybe capitilize on that.

Also, maybe a cartoon Godzilla series. I mean, I enjoyed the nineties series and the HB one, which I need to watch, might be So Bad Its Good, but I would like a proper cartoon series introducing the lore of Godzilla to a new generation of children. The bonus would be character development on the human and Kaiju side would be more consistent, as well as a consistent human cast to get attached to.

Yeah, probably stuff like that.
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Re: What would it take?

Postby JAGzilla » Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:41 pm

Yeah, a successful (and preferrably good) LP movie franchise would probably do it. I hope it happens, too. The idea of American G-movies is still a bit... questionable to me, but seeing Walmart shelves covered in kaiju merchandise would be worth it.
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Re: What would it take?

Postby JVM » Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:07 pm

Honestly?

IMO go for a TV series or a game series, something that will last in public consciousness - movies come and go more than ever now.
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Re: What would it take?

Postby XxComablack1937xX » Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:41 pm

Pretty much a great American Reboot, with that would obviously a lot of merchandise, video games, T.V. series, an possibly a release of Toho Godzilla films in stores like Wal-Mart an other stores again. (I haven't seen any in ages)

Followed by a good sequel to the first American Godzilla film. That would bring Godzilla back to his former glory for the most part.

Godzilla 1998 proved that there's a lot of potential for a American Franchise here, GMK proved the Japanese fan's will pay to see a ''Good'' G-film, but not for a bad/mediocore film like Final Wars. Cloverfield proved there is still some life in monster movies, as many thought it was a sequel to the 98 film prior to seeing it.

So yea, basically a solid American take on Godzilla would restore a lot of faith in this franchise.
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Re: What would it take?

Postby gatorzilla » Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:07 pm

XxComablack1937xX wrote:Pretty much a great American Reboot, with that would obviously a lot of merchandise, video games, T.V. series, an possibly a release of Toho Godzilla films in stores like Wal-Mart an other stores again. (I haven't seen any in ages)

Followed by a good sequel to the first American Godzilla film. That would bring Godzilla back to his former glory for the most part.

Godzilla 1998 proved that there's a lot of potential for a American Franchise here, GMK proved the Japanese fan's will pay to see a ''Good'' G-film, but not for a bad/mediocore film like Final Wars. Cloverfield proved there is still some life in monster movies, as many thought it was a sequel to the 98 film prior to seeing it.

So yea, basically a solid American take on Godzilla would restore a lot of faith in this franchise.



We are in complete agreement here comablack

People go to these movies to see Godzilla. While GxMG and Tokyo SOS had decent stories the films were majorly flawed by Godzilla taking a back seat and just become a secondary character. GMK had Godzilla on center staged henced why it was a success. GFW had potential just executed poorly.

GINO still made about 400 million worldwide for as bad as it was. Imagine what you get if you have an actual good solid American Godzilla movie let alone a trilogy?

What IDW has done with Godzilla so far is a good start and hopefully it becomes one of their biggest franchises next to Transformers, GI Joe etc.
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Re: What would it take?

Postby TechnoForce » Fri May 04, 2012 3:14 pm

I would rather Godzilla stay as a cult franchise. That way the films can be made to be really good for the fans rather than giving it the Transformers or GI Joe treatment. As much as I hate to sound like a hipster I think it would be better if it stayed a little bit beneath the radar.
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Re: What would it take?

Postby Giga Kaiju » Fri May 04, 2012 5:31 pm

^ Yeah, i started to think that its better to have few but true fans than a lot but "just liking the new movie and GFW since
they are the newest movies" kind of fan.
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Re: What would it take?

Postby Living Corpse » Fri May 04, 2012 5:53 pm

TechnoForce wrote:I would rather Godzilla stay as a cult franchise. That way the films can be made to be really good for the fans rather than giving it the Transformers or GI Joe treatment. As much as I hate to sound like a hipster I think it would be better if it stayed a little bit beneath the radar.


It's too late, Toho doesn't even know what they're doing anymore. Most of the films we got in the 2000's were either okay or bad.

^ Yeah, i started to think that its better to have few but true fans than a lot but "just liking the new movie and GFW since
they are the newest movies" kind of fan.


The "fake fans" I.E. the guys who only like whats new or the "in" thing now are just annoying and...that it. They come and go. Real fans are forever and really it wouldn't hurt getting some new fans. Even the people who are gonna only like it cause its the in thing would help bring the franchise back from it's coma.

I know we had a topic talking about how any fans LPG makes, even the "I only like it cause it's the new cool thing" fans would help this franchise.
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Re: What would it take?

Postby Legion1979 » Fri May 04, 2012 6:23 pm

Godzilla is never going to have true mainstream success. That's just how it is.
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Re: What would it take?

Postby Tamura » Fri May 04, 2012 7:26 pm

Godzilla is underground by nature. Attempting to force Godzilla into the mainstream is like trying to get an introverted kid to feel less bored at a party.

I.e, who cares? Shouldn't we be happy and feel supremely fortunate that our fanbase isn't and may never end up over bloated and littered with fake fans?
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Re: What would it take?

Postby edgaguirus » Fri May 04, 2012 9:12 pm

Today's audiences would go for a good Godzilla film, but the effect wouldn't last. Godzilla and giant monsters aren't the craze it used to be. Superheroes seem to have taken over for now.
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Re: What would it take?

Postby TechnoForce » Sat May 05, 2012 3:12 am

There is no reason they couldnt make a good Godzilla vs super hero films. The problem with all this new stuff is they try to appeal to too many audiences at once. If they made a good godzilla film that happened to have Thor in it it is going to be enjoyable at the least. If they fill it with romantic sub plots, good looking beefy guys and big name actors it is going to be the same sh**e as everything else.
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Re: What would it take?

Postby attilagodzilla » Sat May 05, 2012 5:58 am

^well luckily the avenger didn't have a romantic sub plot.
btw the avengers was awesome.
ALso to make godzilla popular again it would indeed take atleast a movie trilogy but i think we really need a game to make godzilla popular again
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Re: What would it take?

Postby Legion1979 » Sat May 05, 2012 6:15 am

edgaguirus wrote:Godzilla and giant monsters aren't the craze it used to be.


There was a Godzilla and giant monster craze? Must have missed that.
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Re: What would it take?

Postby PRIMEVAL » Sat May 05, 2012 7:07 am

Legion1979 wrote:
edgaguirus wrote:Godzilla and giant monsters aren't the craze it used to be.


There was a Godzilla and giant monster craze? Must have missed that.


Wouldn't call it a craze, but popularity of giant monster films was pretty high in the 50's and 60's from what I can tell.
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Re: What would it take?

Postby Godz » Sat May 05, 2012 11:29 am

Legion1979 wrote:
edgaguirus wrote:Godzilla and giant monsters aren't the craze it used to be.


There was a Godzilla and giant monster craze? Must have missed that.


I'd call the 90's the closest thing to a "craze" we had....a mass marketed line of American toys on the shelves of Wal-Mart and Toys R Us, new movies still being made, and import toys selling for $200+ that now can't be moved at $60...
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Re: What would it take?

Postby Legion1979 » Sat May 05, 2012 2:12 pm

Godz wrote:
Legion1979 wrote:
edgaguirus wrote:Godzilla and giant monsters aren't the craze it used to be.


There was a Godzilla and giant monster craze? Must have missed that.


I'd call the 90's the closest thing to a "craze" we had....a mass marketed line of American toys on the shelves of Wal-Mart and Toys R Us, new movies still being made, and import toys selling for $200+ that now can't be moved at $60...


I lived through the '90s. Still wouldn't call it a craze.
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Re: What would it take?

Postby Primevalgodzilla V2 » Sat May 05, 2012 6:11 pm

I believe, like PRIMEVAL mentioned (no, not me), that they were very popular in the 50s/60s. Along with Westerns and stuff. Then they kinda died.
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Re: What would it take?

Postby Shadow » Sat May 05, 2012 8:42 pm

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