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Postby Carthormerr » Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:55 pm

There's a link RedZillaKing just posted. That's proof enough that this isn't some isolated random thought on my part. No, there is no peer reviewed article I can link that breaks down on the molecular level why 2 things look similar. Stop trying to split hairs on something that isn't that complicated.

Listen gotengo, if you can't keep up with an example being given, than just admit that and be done with it. GINO is an example of a MONSTER DESIGN that MATTERED. See that? An example

So give me evidence that the battle was intense. You state that it was intense and needed a little humor. I stated IMO that it wasn't that intense. Therefore, I found the COMEDY unnecessary and furthermore this makes him unnecessary DUDE.

"And that smoke ring was the last thing that hit King Ghidorah. So it killed him. He didn't kill him. " - I'm not following your point here. He didn't kill him you say?
"That didn't happen though, so what exactly is your point?" - See this again. You can't follow an example?
This is an example of something incredibly powerful seconds away from dying and something miniscule attempting to harm that said powerful creature. It didn't happen, but if it had it would be just as valid a claim that a pistol fired at Gojira in his dying moments killed him as that GC's smoke ring killed KG. That's an example. An example.
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Re: If you could change ANY ONE thing about the Godzilla Fil

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:22 pm

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If you have no evidence to back up your statement of "Gary Coleman looks like Minya", then your statement has no validity.

Huh? I just posted a picture comparison from another website of Gary Coleman and Minya. Did you miss it or are you just hellbent on harassing this guy and dissecting every f*****g sentence he posts?


I missed it, because I have you blocked, and I only saw Crthormerr's post when I logged on today.

I made a post about this a few pages ago, in which I posted a picture of both Gary Coleman and Minya and said that they looked nothing alike. And I still believe that. I would say that the only thing they have in common is that they're both short, but Minya isn't short, so that's not true either.

Also, I'm not harassing anyone here. I'm not even picking on him. What I'm doing is hardly different from any other discussion I get into here. Or would you count all of those discussions as harassment as well?

As I've said before, I don't see the problem with taking every sentence I feel like commenting on, and dissecting the post. I'm just being thorough. There's nothing wrong with that.

EDIT: I looked at the link you sent. I still don't see anything that two have in common.

There's a link RedZillaKing just posted. That's proof enough that this isn't some isolated random thought on my part. No, there is no peer reviewed article I can link that breaks down on the molecular level why 2 things look similar. Stop trying to split hairs on something that isn't that complicated.


I'm not splitting hairs here. I'm saying that Gary Coleman and Minya look nothing alike. All you have to do is look at a picture of each of them, and you'll see they have nothing in common.

GINO is an example of a MONSTER DESIGN that MATTERED. See that? An example


And I'm saying that you're example doesn't make any sense, because you throw out that example because the monster is named Godzilla, when that's not the design's fault.

So give me evidence that the battle was intense. You state that it was intense and needed a little humor. I stated IMO that it wasn't that intense. Therefore, I found the COMEDY unnecessary and furthermore this makes him unnecessary DUDE.


Again, you're missing the point.

You never answered my question. I didn't make that point to say that the final battle in DAM was intense. The point of it was to ask the question, "Do you think there should never be any kind of comedy whatsoever in dramatic/action scenes like the final fight in DAM?"

You're getting hooked up on one word of that, which was an incredibly trivial word, just so you could avoid the question.

"And that smoke ring was the last thing that hit King Ghidorah. So it killed him. He didn't kill him. " - I'm not following your point here. He didn't kill him you say?


No, that was a typo. I meant to say, "He did kill him."

This is an example of something incredibly powerful seconds away from dying and something miniscule attempting to harm that said powerful creature. It didn't happen, but if it had it would be just as valid a claim that a pistol fired at Gojira in his dying moments killed him as that GC's smoke ring killed KG. That's an example. An example.


Minya's killing of King Ghidorah was meant to be funny. What exactly would firing a gun at the dying Godzilla accomplish? That's neither funny, nor adds anything to the dramatic tension of that scene. Also, a bullet to the dying Godzilla would not have accomplished anything. It wouldn't have penetrated his skin, nor would Godzilla have felt it. Whereas Minya's smoke ring clearly did damage to King Ghidorah.

I still stand by the Super Smash Bros. example. Mario gets Pikachu to 200%, Kirby performs a smash and kills Pikachu, Kirby gets the KO count and Mario gets nothing. The same applies here.
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Re: If you could change ANY ONE thing about the Godzilla Fil

Postby RedZillaKing » Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:46 pm

I'll send this in PM. It's definitely off topic.
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Re: If you could change ANY ONE thing about the Godzilla Fil

Postby Carthormerr » Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:27 am

I am looking at the picture and cannot say that. That's just how you see it or want to see it in this case.

I'm pretty sure they decided it was gonna be Godzilla before the final design. Making the design matter. Now I could be very wrong on which order they decided it. So how about any of the Rodan suits in the 60's compared to the original?

"Do you think there should never be any kind of comedy whatsoever in dramatic/action scenes like the final fight in DAM?" - Never? I wouldn't say that, but I could go without their attempts in this particular scene. I just see it as a big beat down. KG really had no way of jumping in the middle of so many monsters (also that whatever you call it that makes those weird noises and blows smoke rings) and beating all of them.

Now you're missing my point. I'm not attempting a personal rewrite of the Gojira script. Clearly adding what I said would be "neither funny, nor adds anything to the dramatic tension of that scene". That's an obvious example of something that could not harm Godzilla. Gary's smoke ring could not harm GK. It didn't clearly harm him in this scene. His head was writhing and about to fall and it just happened to hit him. Let's go by your Smash Bro's example though, using this would actually make you very wrong. Gorosaurus actually got the last blow in, therefore "he" "got the kill".
Re-watch the scene. He is clearly still biting his tail after the ring hits and finishes LOL
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Re: If you could change ANY ONE thing about the Godzilla Fil

Postby ghidorasauras » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:00 am

Did I start this? oh god...
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Re: If you could change ANY ONE thing about the Godzilla Fil

Postby wrongnote85 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:14 am

i've said it before, and i'll say it again....


some of you people take this shit WAY too seriously.
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Re: If you could change ANY ONE thing about the Godzilla Fil

Postby Stuckey » Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:50 am

My goodness, people. Drop it. Sheesh.
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Re: If you could change ANY ONE thing about the Godzilla Fil

Postby Sydney Aradi » Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:00 am

wrongnote85 wrote:i've said it before, and i'll say it again....


some of you people take this shit WAY too seriously.


Drop the elitism wrongnote. Its not good for your health
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Re: If you could change ANY ONE thing about the Godzilla Fil

Postby wrongnote85 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:22 pm

Sydney Aradi wrote:
wrongnote85 wrote:i've said it before, and i'll say it again....


some of you people take this shit WAY too seriously.


Drop the elitism wrongnote. Its not good for your health


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Re: If you could change ANY ONE thing about the Godzilla Fil

Postby Sydney Aradi » Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:48 pm

wrongnote85 wrote:
Sydney Aradi wrote:
wrongnote85 wrote:i've said it before, and i'll say it again....


some of you people take this shit WAY too seriously.


Drop the elitism wrongnote. Its not good for your health


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no just a suggestion
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Re: If you could change ANY ONE thing about the Godzilla Fil

Postby wrongnote85 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:39 pm

quality post, thanks.
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Re: If you could change ANY ONE thing about the Godzilla Fil

Postby Sav » Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:00 pm

Have the human stories be ABOUT Godzilla. God damn.

As far as any one film goes, i'd make a few changes to Final Wars.. Fix the pacing problems. Have the fight between Zilla be cool. Have Godzilla, Mothra, Rodan, fight King G, Gigan, and Mechagodzilla.
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Re: If you could change ANY ONE thing about the Godzilla Fil

Postby Mincecraft » Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:45 pm

I would say something, but I dont wanna start a war here (PLEASE DONT RESPOND TO THIS)
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Re: If you could change ANY ONE thing about the Godzilla Fil

Postby wrongnote85 » Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:04 pm

Mincecraft wrote:I would say something, but I dont wanna start a war here (PLEASE DONT RESPOND TO THIS)


umm....


wtf?
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Re: If you could change ANY ONE thing about the Godzilla Fil

Postby Carthormerr » Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:12 pm

Mincecraft wrote:I would say something, but I dont wanna start a war here (PLEASE DONT RESPOND TO THIS)


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Re: If you could change ANY ONE thing about the Godzilla Fil

Postby Mincecraft » Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:10 am

Carthormerr wrote:
Mincecraft wrote:I would say something, but I dont wanna start a war here (PLEASE DONT RESPOND TO THIS)


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Aw, common, I said dont respond! :angel:
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Re: If you could change ANY ONE thing about the Godzilla Fil

Postby Rody » Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:35 pm

If I were to change one other thing about the films.....

...I would replace Daisenso-Goji (and Musuko-Goji) with Mosu-Goji. Like the '60's Rodan, I feel that Daisenso-Goji was a lackluster successor of a design. I don't know what condition the Mosu-Goji suit was in by 1965, but if it was necessary to make a new suit, I would have just made a duplicate.

Easier said than done, though, I suppose...
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Re: If you could change ANY ONE thing about the Godzilla Fil

Postby Crazy-c » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:46 am

Erase Godzilla's Revenge from existence.
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Re: If you could change ANY ONE thing about the Godzilla Fil

Postby Rody » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:17 am

All Monsters Attack may not be a good film, but there are much worse Godzilla films which would be better choices to erase from existence.
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Re: If you could change ANY ONE thing about the Godzilla Fil

Postby Mincecraft » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:30 am

Rody wrote:All Monsters Attack may not be a good film, but there are much worse Godzilla films which would be better choices to erase from existence.


Such as?
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