If you could change ANY ONE thing about the Godzilla Films

[SuperSaiyan4Godzilla]

Eh, I just hate how the later Showa Films were less serious compared to Godzilla-InvasionOfAstroMonster (not counting KKvG)

Yeah, I totally hated how Godzilla vs. Hedorah and Terror of Mehcagodzilla were lighthearted kids films.

Its hard for me to take Godzilla vs. Hedorah seriously. It is a kids movie that looks dark but is no way dark.

[Goji]

Eh, I just hate how the later Showa Films were less serious compared to Godzilla-InvasionOfAstroMonster (not counting KKvG)

What does that have to do with your ridiculous comment from earlier?

[Legion1979]

Eh, I just hate how the later Showa Films were less serious compared to Godzilla-InvasionOfAstroMonster (not counting KKvG)

That's nice. I'm sure eventually you'll grow up and appreciate them for what they are instead of comparing them against each other with the played out sentiment that you're above something that just happens to appeal to kids.

[Megalon-5]

Its hard for me to take Godzilla vs. Hedorah seriously. It is a kids movie that looks dark but is no way dark.

Meh, when I finally got around to seeing Godzilla vs. Hedorah as a kid, it actually creeped me out and disturbed me due to weird nature of the film and all the people melting.

As for Terror of Mechagodzilla, it was made for kiddie matinees, but from what I've heard Honda wanted it to be really dark. Hence the tragic plot regarding Katsura and the film ending with her suicide among other things.

[Rody]

Also she has to punish us for what we did, and take back what is hers. Oh! And with that u can explain why Battra wasn't in the original Mothra movie.

Battra wasn't invented until over 30 YEARS after Mothra.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

I completely agree with this.

When it comes to the Godzilla films, ratings are superfluous. Not just the Showa films, but all of the Godzilla films.

Eh, I just hate how the later Showa Films were less serious compared to Godzilla-InvasionOfAstroMonster (not counting KKvG)

Again, there are plenty of serious moments and characters in the later Showa films, especially in Godzilla vs. Hedorah, Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla and Terror Of MechaGodzilla, what with the dissolving skeletons, tons of monster blood, characters with complex backstories involving revenge and greed, and Katsura's sacrifice, which can be seen as a suicide. Those are adult subjects, which if the films were "kid-oriented", like you say, would never fly past the producers or studio heads.

Outside of All Monsters Attack, one can take the entire Showa series very seriously. There are a few silly moments, like Godzilla dancing, but those moments are few, far between, and only last a few seconds. The entire series should not be looked down upon just because of things like that.

[SuperSaiyan4Godzilla]

Its hard for me to take Godzilla vs. Hedorah seriously. It is a kids movie that looks dark but is no way dark.

Meh, when I finally got around to seeing Godzilla vs. Hedorah as a kid, it actually creeped me out and disturbed me due to weird nature of the film and all the people melting.

As for Terror of Mechagodzilla, it was made for kiddie matinees, but from what I've heard Honda wanted it to be really dark. Hence the tragic plot regarding Katsura and the film ending with her suicide among other things.

I found that the stuff I saw in GvH were about the same as stuff I watched in Pokemon, Digimon, Spiderman, X-Men, and all of the other things I watched on Saturday mornings.

Now, the first MechaGodzilla Saga possesses the best films in Showa in my opinion.

[Rody]

Outside of All Monsters Attack, one can take the entire Showa series very seriously

Godzilla vs. Megalon can be taken seriously?

I am in agreement with you otherwise, though.

[L Lawliet]

Now, the first MechaGodzilla Saga possesses the best films in Showa in my opinion.

I agree with this

[Megalon-5]

Its hard for me to take Godzilla vs. Hedorah seriously. It is a kids movie that looks dark but is no way dark.

Meh, when I finally got around to seeing Godzilla vs. Hedorah as a kid, it actually creeped me out and disturbed me due to weird nature of the film and all the people melting.

As for Terror of Mechagodzilla, it was made for kiddie matinees, but from what I've heard Honda wanted it to be really dark. Hence the tragic plot regarding Katsura and the film ending with her suicide among other things.

I found that the stuff I saw in GvH were about the same as stuff I watched in Pokemon, Digimon, Spiderman, X-Men, and all of the other things I watched on Saturday mornings.

Now, the first MechaGodzilla Saga possesses the best films in Showa in my opinion.

I didn't have the same reaction, It was kinda weird to see people actually die graphically in a kaiju film other than the typical vehicles exploding or getting shot. Not too mention the weird cartoons littered throughout and Godzilla getting his eyes burned off.

Totally agree with you on the Showa Mechagodzilla saga. It's a fine pair of films.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

Outside of All Monsters Attack, one can take the entire Showa series very seriously

Godzilla vs. Megalon can be taken seriously?

I am in agreement with you otherwise, though.

Yeah, sure. There a theme of underground nuclear testing and what effects it might have (including mass murder). I would say that's an adult subject matter.

I don't take Godzilla vs. Megalon as seriously as other Showa films, such as Invasion Of The Astro-Monster or Terror Of MechaGodzilla, but there is something there to be taken seriously in what the film talks about or its message.

[Legion1979]

I didn't have the same reaction, It was kinda weird to see people actually die graphically in a kaiju film other than the typical vehicles exploding or getting shot.

Yeah, I don't remember seeing any of that kind of stuff in the children's shows I was watching around the time I first saw Godzilla vs the Smog Monster. Granted, that was in '86, but compared to what I WAS watching, Smog Monster was far more violent and a lot less "kiddie".

[SuperSaiyan4Godzilla]

Outside of All Monsters Attack, one can take the entire Showa series very seriously

Godzilla vs. Megalon can be taken seriously?

I am in agreement with you otherwise, though.

Yeah, sure. There a theme of underground nuclear testing and what effects it might have (including mass murder). I would say that's an adult subject matter.

I don't take Godzilla vs. Megalon as seriously as other Showa films, such as Invasion Of The Astro-Monster or Terror Of MechaGodzilla, but there is something there to be taken seriously in what the film talks about or its message.

The subject matter is an adult one, but I've seen adult issues handled in children's movies and shows before. But doesn't mean the movies are serious.

I didn't have the same reaction, It was kinda weird to see people actually die graphically in a kaiju film other than the typical vehicles exploding or getting shot.

Yeah, I don't remember seeing any of that kind of stuff in the children's shows I was watching around the time I first saw Godzilla vs the Smog Monster. Granted, that was in '86, but compared to what I WAS watching, Smog Monster was far more violent and a lot less "kiddie".

That may be a generational gap. When the mid-later 90s came around, the Anime boom happened and the violence scale seemed to have tipped.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

I really don't see how someone can say that Godzilla vs. Hedorah is a kids film in any way. It's the most graphic Showa film, outside of Godzilla, and has some pretty disturbing images, which have already been mentioned.

If anything, Godzilla vs. Hedorah is the most adult-oriented Godzilla film since Godzilla.

The subject matter is an adult one, but I've seen adult issues handled in children's movies and shows before. But doesn't mean the movies are serious.

To me, yeah, it does mean they're serious. It means that the filmmakers care about their work so much, that they're willing to take a rising subject that the filmmakers are concerned about, and make a statement about said subject. It means you have a certain respect for your own work when you do something like that. In response, I respect the filmmakers for doing that, thus I take their work seriously.

[Legion1979]

That may be a generational gap. When the mid-later 90s came around, the Anime boom happened and the violence scale seemed to have tipped.

You don't really do your argument any favors by using anime as an example, considering THAT was from Japan too, where children's programming has completely different standards than ours. I was still watching kids TV throughout most (if not) of the '90s and even then I didn't see things that were even close to the more graphic images from Smog Monster.

[wrongnote85]

and Making the Showa films less kid-oriented

Ah yes, because a series that includes people being dissolved to skeletons, people falling off of buildings, ray guns that vaporize people into nothing, many moments of people being crushed under falling buildings or rocks, having the title character bleed copious amounts of blood (not to mention at one point having all the skin on his hand removed), and scenes of people dying in hospitals from radiation and monster attacks is so kid-oriented.

wait, what?

[Legion1979]

and Making the Showa films less kid-oriented

Ah yes, because a series that includes people being dissolved to skeletons, people falling off of buildings, ray guns that vaporize people into nothing, many moments of people being crushed under falling buildings or rocks, having the title character bleed copious amounts of blood (not to mention at one point having all the skin on his hand removed), and scenes of people dying in hospitals from radiation and monster attacks is so kid-oriented.

wait, what?

The flesh on Godzilla's right hand burns away after he punches Hedorah in the eye.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

and Making the Showa films less kid-oriented

Ah yes, because a series that includes people being dissolved to skeletons, people falling off of buildings, ray guns that vaporize people into nothing, many moments of people being crushed under falling buildings or rocks, having the title character bleed copious amounts of blood (not to mention at one point having all the skin on his hand removed), and scenes of people dying in hospitals from radiation and monster attacks is so kid-oriented.

wait, what?

Um, yeah.

At one point, Godzilla stuck his hand inside Hedorah, and it took all of the skin off his hand, leaving only the bone. It's hard to tell on older copies of the movie, but on the Sony DVD, its pretty clear that one of his hands has no skin on it.

[The Dark Uniter]

Godzilla vs Hedorah is one strange breed of film and very multi-layerd. To me at least, one half of it does feel kid-oriented with the child actor in booty shorts and the various animated segments in-between, not to mention the various educational bits of the various stars and planets in the solar system; then the other half is mostly a message on pollution, pure what-the-fuck moments and part hippie, it's kid film but kind of not, kind of like Nightmare Before Christmas or Corpse Bride , if that makes any sense.

[Goji]

I love how Banno's use of animation and other unorthodox techniques/aspects of the film translate to "kiddy" or "childish". Seriously people?