why no Godzilla/Ultrman crossover

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Re: why no Godzilla/Ultrman crossover

Postby Rody » Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:50 pm

I've said this before; I would absolutely LOVE to see Tsuburaya do a Godzilla film/series, or a Godzilla/Ultraman crossover. The possibilities......
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Re: why no Godzilla/Ultrman crossover

Postby Hellspawn28 » Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:35 pm

Would a Kamen Rider crossover with Godzilla work? I was told that their is a Kamen Rider that has the power to grow into giant size?
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Re: why no Godzilla/Ultrman crossover

Postby Living Corpse » Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:45 pm

GodGan wrote:Cuz godzilla would woop his alien a*s


You got it the other way around. Ultraman would kick his mutant ass.
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Re: why no Godzilla/Ultrman crossover

Postby miguelnuva » Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:32 pm

Living Corpse wrote:
GodGan wrote:Cuz godzilla would woop his alien a*s


You got it the other way around. Ultraman would his mutant ass.


It depends on which Ultraman and which Godzilla.
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Re: why no Godzilla/Ultrman crossover

Postby Svitska Donkun » Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:42 am

Certain incarnations of Godzilla would decimate Ultraman. He is the most powerful Daikaiju. You know, hyper regeneration, impenetrable hide, telepathic abilities, Nuclear Pulses, super strength even by monster standards, can breath underwater, and has an atomic Ray that can destabilize black holes and destroy meteors. While Ultraman's abilities are varied and great, it's like a many skilled samurai fighting a gunslinger. Gunslinger wins.

Ultraman, despite being giant, doesn't fit within the context of Godzilla's universe anyway. The tones and style of each universe are so drastically different.
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Re: why no Godzilla/Ultrman crossover

Postby Living Corpse » Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:25 am

Most powerful?

No. He got his ass handed to him a good number of times by more powerful creatures, and sometimes even weaker but smarter ones like the Mothra larval. He's tough but far from invincible.
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Re: why no Godzilla/Ultrman crossover

Postby Godzillabrawler » Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:30 am

Living Corpse wrote:Most powerful?

No. He got his ass handed to him a good number of times by more powerful creatures, and sometimes even weaker but smarter ones like the Mothra larval. He's tough but far from invincible.


You're referring to Showa Godzilla from various instances. And KiryuGoji. The number of nigh-unstoppable brawler Godzillas outweighs the number of pathetic ones.

It takes MUCH more to knock down the Big G than it used to in the Showa days except in KiryuGoji's cases. They've had to exploit weaknesses over and over since Godzilla vs. Biollante.
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Re: why no Godzilla/Ultrman crossover

Postby Living Corpse » Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:43 am

Godzillabrawler wrote:
Living Corpse wrote:Most powerful?

No. He got his ass handed to him a good number of times by more powerful creatures, and sometimes even weaker but smarter ones like the Mothra larval. He's tough but far from invincible.


You're referring to Showa Godzilla from various instances. And KiryuGoji. The number of nigh-unstoppable brawler Godzillas outweighs the number of pathetic ones.

It takes MUCH more to knock down the Big G than it used to in the Showa days except in KiryuGoji's cases. They've had to exploit weaknesses over and over since Godzilla vs. Biollante.


*Takes off glasses*

You did not just call Showa Godzilla pathetic.

Someone please tell me he's joking. The same guy who's crazy fighting style has sent monster after monster running home to mommy. :lol: Look power isn't everything, Mothra and Battra managed to beat Heisei Godzilla with team work despite being "weaker" then the big guy. Hell Godzilla himself has proven this time and time again by beating monster more powerful then himself either by teaming up with another monster like Rodan to repel someone he could not beat on hos own like Showa King Ghidorah or finding some kind of weakness and exploiting it like blowing up Orga from the inside or just taking advantage of a situation that puts the stronger monster at a disadvantage such as when mankind intervened during the whole Hedorah thing. Or just gaining a new power, Heisei Mechagodzilla is WAY more dangerous then Heisei Godzilla and he would have won were it not for Fire Rodan giving the big G a new breath weapon.
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Re: why no Godzilla/Ultrman crossover

Postby Svitska Donkun » Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:50 am

Living Corpse wrote:Most powerful?

No. He got his ass handed to him a good number of times by more powerful creatures, and sometimes even weaker but smarter ones like the Mothra larval. He's tough but far from invincible.


You're playing the selective evidence card. And I don't know why. There is more than enough evidence to suggest that Godzilla is the most powerful Daikaiju. He has the most immense feats under his belt. If not him then who? King Ghidorah? Hedorah? Spacegodzilla? Destoroyah? Godzilla's defeated all of them. Godzilla is numero uno. And this is a generally accepted fact. It's even stated in some of the movies, such as the Kiryu saga and GFW. It's even on wikipedia. In Giant Monster canon, Godzilla is top dog. Just because some incarnations aren't as powerful as other means nothing. At least ONE Godzilla is the most powerful monster ever, and that's enough. And don't throw Gamera at me. He's displayed weakness far more times than Godzilla has.

Heisei Mechagodzilla is WAY more dangerous then Heisei Godzilla and he would have won were it not for Fire Rodan giving the big G a new breath weapon.


Mechagodzilla only bested Godzilla thanks to Miki. If she could not show them where the brain was, then it would not have worked. So it really wasn't Mechagodzilla's doing, so much as the telepath.

just taking advantage of a situation that puts the stronger monster at a disadvantage such as when mankind intervened during the whole Hedorah thing.


FW Godzilla basically one shot killed him without any help. In fact, he did it to Ebirah simultaneously.

exploiting it like blowing up Orga from the inside


Ok, before Orga opened his mouth and hypnotized Godzilla. He was WRECKED. He was literally falling apart. He needed to do it as a last resort to ATTEMPT to become more like Godzilla who was the dominate life form. This was actually explained somewhat. Then Godzilla, through use of his telepathic skills I guess, willpowered out of the stasis Orga inflicted then incinerated him.
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Re: why no Godzilla/Ultrman crossover

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:57 am

He has the most immense feats under his belt. If not him then who? King Ghidorah? Hedorah? Spacegodzilla? Destoroyah? Godzilla's defeated all of them. Godzilla is numero uno. And this is a generally accepted fact. It's even stated in some of the movies, such as the Kiryu saga and GFW. It's even on wikipedia. In Giant Monster canon, Godzilla is top dog.


Yeah, Godzilla is the strongest in HIS universes.

Mechagodzilla only bested Godzilla thanks to Miki. If she could not show them where the brain was, then it would not have worked. So it really wasn't Mechagodzilla's doing, so much as the telepath.


Calling total bullshit on that. Mechagodzilla nearly killed Godzilla in their first encounter. If it hadn't short circuited Godzilla would have died. Super Mechagodzilla would probably have used the same method and gotten the desired effect. The whole brain side plot only aided in a new way to kill Godzilla.

FW Godzilla basically one shot killed him without any help. In fact, he did it to Ebirah simultaneously.


Yeah, it was FW. Most of the kaiju were weaker then their original incarnations.

Ok, before Orga opened his mouth and hypnotized Godzilla. He was WRECKED. He was literally falling apart. He needed to do it as a last resort to ATTEMPT to become more like Godzilla who was the dominate life form. This was actually explained somewhat. Then Godzilla, through use of his telepathic skills I guess, willpowered out of the stasis Orga inflicted then incinerated him.


That is total fan speculation.
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Re: why no Godzilla/Ultrman crossover

Postby Goji » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:03 am

If this was ever going to happen, it would have been decades ago.
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Re: why no Godzilla/Ultrman crossover

Postby hammysammy59 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:06 am

PopInPicsPresents wrote:
FW Godzilla basically one shot killed him without any help. In fact, he did it to Ebirah simultaneously.


Yeah, it was FW. Most of the kaiju were weaker then their original incarnations.


This always cracks me up. Who's to say it wasn't the other way around in FW? That FW Godzilla was super hella strong? People cite stuff like this like it's hard science, when it really just depends on your interpretation of the movie. And I don't just mean GFW, whenever someone starts complaining about how "weak" Ghidorah is in GMK, I can't help but roll my eyes.

Ultraman would whup Godzilla's ass? Well, going by "stats" Godzilla "should" have destroyed King Kong. But... that wouldn't have been a very good movie. If Godzilla and Ultraman had a crossover, they'd worry more about making an entertaining movie than slavishly adhering to make-believe "stats" and Dragonball-style "power levels." Or at least, I'd hope they would. :freak:
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Re: why no Godzilla/Ultrman crossover

Postby Goji » Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:13 am

Here's the simple answer: It's whatever the script calls for. ;)
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Re: why no Godzilla/Ultrman crossover

Postby Hellspawn28 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:40 am

I still think Toho never likes the idea of crossovers. Which could be why Toho told DH no with crossovers for Alien, Predator, Terminator and Superman.
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Re: why no Godzilla/Ultrman crossover

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:45 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:I still think Toho never likes the idea of crossovers. Which could be why Toho told DH no with crossovers for Alien, Predator, Terminator and Superman.



The possibilities... :shock:

A Xenokaiju?
Predators hunting Godzilla?
A skreeonk TERMINATOR GODZILLA?!

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Re: why no Godzilla/Ultrman crossover

Postby miguelnuva » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:28 am

Toho knew the terminator MechaGodzilla would have made there's look like sh*t.

Also normal Heisei MechaGodzilla was never in any position to kill Godzilla PopInPicsPresents.
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Re: why no Godzilla/Ultrman crossover

Postby Rody » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:54 am

miguelnuva wrote:Also normal Heisei MechaGodzilla was never in any position to kill Godzilla PopInPicsPresents.

Mechagodzilla was OWNING Godzilla in their first match. Goji couldn't do anything against MG until the shock cable freak-accident.
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Re: why no Godzilla/Ultrman crossover

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:57 am

Also normal Heisei MechaGodzilla was never in any position to kill Godzilla PopInPicsPresents.


...Super MechaGodzilla had already killed Godzilla in their last fight. If it weren't for Rodan pulling a Jesus out of his pocket, and reviving Godzilla, MechaGodzilla would have easily killed Godzilla.
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Re: why no Godzilla/Ultrman crossover

Postby miguelnuva » Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:05 pm

MechaGodzilla was not owning Godzilla, yeah he knocked him down with the plasma grenade but what else did he do besides that. After that attack stopped Godzilla got right back up and attacked MechaG again.

Now SuperMechaGodzilla was owning Godzilla.
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Re: why no Godzilla/Ultrman crossover

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:11 pm

miguelnuva wrote:MechaGodzilla was not owning Godzilla, yeah he knocked him down with the plasma grenade but what else did he do besides that.


...Get the Shock Anchors into him and started shocking the crap out of him, causing him to foam at the mouth. It wasn't until Godzilla reserved the charge of the Shock Anchors back to MechaGodzilla that Godzilla was able to fight back.
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