What godzilla movies been lacking

[G-fan 27]

For most of you this will probably be proper dubbings or proper region 1 releases for them. But i now that i think about it have noticed how godzillas battles went. What i mean by this is that the battles are one on one, sometimes you have two on two like in godzilla vs gigan,godzilla vs everybody(godzilla final wars or when king ghidorah fought everybody in destroy all monsters),or sometimes its just godzilla vs army. My point is in this topic that there has never been a free for all in a godzilla movie like maybe godzilla vs anguirus, aguirus vs gigan , gigan vs godzilla. You know where nobody is on a side they are all just fighting each other. if you guys want leave a comment about what monsters you would like to see in a free for all. Also do you think it will happen in the future or even possibly in the next godzilla movie.

[TokyoVigilante]

Oh lovely. We don't need well defined characters, relevant thematic elements, strong storylines or character arcs, we need monster brawls.

Keepin' the genre dead, I see.

Jesus.

[Rody]

A little more spacing, please, G-fan. I had trouble just reading your post.

[tymon]

Oh lovely. We don't need well defined characters, relevant thematic elements, strong storylines or character arcs

Yeah, because the series is so well known for all of that.

[TokyoVigilante]

You're right, how silly of me to have standards. Lets keep making mediocre and totally forgettable films that are just excuses for special effects to happen, despite that we have had lots of films in this genre with well-defined characters, relevant thematic elements, and strong storylines. How odd of me to like more of that.

[hammysammy59]

I think he has a point though too. The monster conflicts in these movies for the most part are either Godzilla vs 1 or 2 monsters or Godzilla and a partner vs 1 or 2 monsters. Wanting more variety in what the monsters are doing doesn't have to mean he wants the movies to focus on nothing but monster fights. I'd love to see monsters interact with each other in ways we've never seen before. Don't forget, in the best kaiju movies, the monsters are characters or symbolic elements too.

G-Fan's suggestion of a multi-monster brawl without "teams" would be cool to see. One of the only good things about the second Pirates of the Caribbean movie was seeing a three-way sword fight between the three leads... I'd love to see three (or more) different monsters with different agendas clashing with each other equally. At this point the closest we've gotten is probably Tokyo SOS, but even then Mechagodzilla and Mothra had the shared goal of getting rid of Godzilla.

[Rody]

You're right, how silly of me to have standards. Lets keep making mediocre and totally forgettable films that are just excuses for special effects to happen, despite that we have had lots of films in this genre with well-defined characters, relevant thematic elements, and strong storylines. How odd of me to like more of that.

Michael Bay presents: GODZILLA: REVENGE OF THE REGULATOR!!

[edgaguirus]

I enjoy the battles as much as anyone else, but you need a good story line to make any film like this more than an excuse for a prolonged fight. The formula of teams and 1 on 1 work better for the hero/antihero and villain battles that have made Godzilla big.

[tymon]

You're right, how silly of me to have standards. Lets keep making mediocre and totally forgettable films that are just excuses for special effects to happen, despite that we have had lots of films in this genre with well-defined characters, relevant thematic elements, and strong storylines. How odd of me to like more of that.

Nothin wrong with having standards (and I agree that the best films in the franchise tend to be the ones with the better stories/characters/themes etc), I just don't see anything wrong with discussing the battles themselves, such as this thread. I don't think the OP ever suggested that the stories should be shitty, or the films forgettable.

I do think the Heisei and Millennium films are generally lacking in both monster fights and critical elements, but that's just me. And to remain partially on-topic, I would definitely like to see a free-for-all between multiple monsters. That has some interesting possibilities, not only with kaiju battles but in terms of plot as well.

[RedZillaKing]

What I really want to see is more JSDF vs. monsters that aren't Godzilla. Like mazers vs. Anguirus, tanks vs. Gaira, etc. In short, I want to see them win sometimes.

[Living Corpse]

What I really want to see is more JSDF vs. monsters that aren't Godzilla. Like mazers vs. Anguirus, tanks vs. Gaira, etc. In short, I want to see them win sometimes.

That's something that always bugged me about the 90's films. Everytime they make an anti-kaiju weapon they always made it specifically to fight Godzilla and never for other monsters. I know they're called G-Force but come on there are other monsters besides Godzilla. You'd think they be crazy ready and make weapons that can not only take on Godzilla but also past monsters in case something simmler to them show up.

Like give Mecahgodzilla some acid resisting coating in case a new Biollante shows up or a new monster with simler acid shows up.

[menschenjaeger]

Definitely a love scene. I don't mean hot monster-on-monster action, I mean something romantic, that really advances the characterization and adds complexity to the plot, but with monsters.

Yes, I'm kidding.

@Living Corpse and RedZillaKing, I feel ya, brah...and yet the one series where conventional weapons do seem to deal some damage, the Heisei Gameras, I find myself getting incredibly frustrated - "Let the man, er, turtle work! I paid money to see these two brawl! Keep your patriot missiles to your damn selves!" Really, other than War of the Gargantuas, do we see the Toho JSDF do any good, ever?

A monster free-for-all...maybe that would be a fun way for a new Godzilla series to start. Full reboot, multiple monsters appearing globally (or Japanally ), getting into on the occasions they meet...

[Living Corpse]

Really, other than War of the Gargantuas, do we see the Toho JSDF do any good, ever?

They managed to move out cold monsters to Monster Land and lure the others there and then keep them contained until the Kiliaks showed up in 1999. That's gotta count for something. Hell that's probably even more frustrating work then just outright trying to kill the monsters.

Achievement/Trophy unlocked: Gotta Catch Em' All.

And I know you were joking about the love thing but the ending of Rodan would count in my opinion. The one Rodan could have easily flown away but instead choose to die with it's mate/sibling.

[RedZillaKing]

The JSDF were instrumental in the death of Destoroyah and SpaceGodzilla. 'Twas Spiral Grenade Missiles killed the beast. They also buried Goji in ice in GRA.

[omgitsgodzilla]

You're right, how silly of me to have standards. Lets keep making mediocre and totally forgettable films that are just excuses for special effects to happen, despite that we have had lots of films in this genre with well-defined characters, relevant thematic elements, and strong storylines. How odd of me to like more of that.

A few people, sadly, seem to think that's the right way to do things.

[Living Corpse]

The JSDF were instrumental in the death of Destoroyah and SpaceGodzilla. 'Twas Spiral Grenade Missiles killed the beast. They also buried Goji in ice in GRA.

That was G-Force.

I think he means just the plain old JSDF from Showa. Killing Hedorah probably counts. Even if they needed Godzilla.

[Rody]

They came really close to defeating Godzilla in 1964 with those electrical towers.

[Mini-Godzilla]

Hardcore human sex scenes intercut with monster brawls, all presented as a surrealistic experimental film.

Like the Hedorah movie, but weirder and more adult-oriented.

[Cimmerian Dragon]

Hardcore human sex scenes intercut with monster brawls, all presented as a surrealistic experimental film.

Like the Hedorah movie, but weirder and more adult-oriented.

Coming soon, the new epic from Tinto Brass, Giancarlo Lui, and Bob Guccione...

[menschenjaeger]

Hardcore human sex scenes intercut with monster brawls, all presented as a surrealistic experimental film.

Like the Hedorah movie, but weirder and more adult-oriented.

You kinda just described my last relationship. TWO TICKETS, PLEASE!