I Just decided that Godzilla 98 is Canon

[Berzerkgodzilla]

Fans and nerd culture as a whole put waaay to much stock in the importance of continuity. Continuity does not matter. If the story is strong in a self-contained sense and doesn't fit in with this-and-that other film, then it's still a good story being told.

It keeps some people happy, I mean there hasn't been as much Godzilla as people would like, so everyone just start to discuss other things about the movies, like for some godawful reason the contunuity

[Hellspawn28]

Having all of these movies into one timeline would be a total mess. Why can't people be happy with the timelines that we have?

[Grayshot954]

Some people think it would be an awesome challenge to fuse most, ignores three painful movies, of the canon and have characters interact that have never done so before. And these people could have made multiple stories for the KWC involving these characters and it would be very hurtful to some people to have his...I meant their heads ripped off based on a fight over continuity which would hurt their feelings.... Thats is why.

[Tyler]

GINO is its own movie and GTS can be seen as a sequel. The joke in GMK was exactly that - a joke. Zilla in Final Wars is just as random as any of the other monsters. It's not like the movie makes sense anyway.

[Shadow]

Having all of these movies into one timeline would be a total mess. Why can't people be happy with the timelines that we have?

No! People have to bitch or it will consume them, body and soul. Deal with it.

[Goji]

The title to this topic is freakin' hilarious.

He shows up in Final Wars so how is that not a direct connection?

I guess I just always shrugged off the American Godzilla as not a REAL Godzilla movie and lumped it in with other action movies. I think from now on I'll add it to the other 28 films.

Just because he's in FINAL WARS doesn't mean that the '98 film is canon with that film.

Going by that logic, RODAN (1956) is canon with VS. MECHAGODZILLA ('93) just because Rodan is in it.

[Godz]

If you really want to tie it all together like that, the 2nd Showa Godzilla dies and is replaced by a fully grown Minya. Imagine that...Minya becomes the badass Heisei Godzilla.

Yet Godzillasaurus was deffently the Godzilla in the Heisei. I just like to imagine Godzilla & Minilla mysterious disapeared.

But is the Godzilla from 1985 and vs. Biollante the same one as vs King Ghidorah and onward?

[Living Corpse]

If you really want to tie it all together like that, the 2nd Showa Godzilla dies and is replaced by a fully grown Minya. Imagine that...Minya becomes the badass Heisei Godzilla.

Yet Godzillasaurus was deffently the Godzilla in the Heisei. I just like to imagine Godzilla & Minilla mysterious disapeared.

But is the Godzilla from 1985 and vs. Biollante the same one as vs King Ghidorah and onward?

I'm not even gonna try because it will take an hour to explain.

Here this should answer all you're Heisei timeline questions.

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[milo bloom]

I've always considered it a "Godzilla" film.

I've never really examined how the timelines work, so I'm not going to open that can of worms, but the appearance of the 'Zilla form factor and behavior in Final Wars solidified for me that Toho accepted the idea of that film being in the overall Godzilla "canon".

I have the DVD on my shelf between the Space-Godzilla/Destroyah double feature and Godzilla 2000.

[Destroyer]

Didn't GMK refer to this film in the beginning? I've never thought of this film as non-canon.

[Goji]

Well yeah, but GMK exists in it's own little universe, just like all of the Millennium films. You could argue that it's canon with GMK, but not much else.

The American film isn't canon with any of the Japanese Godzilla time lines other than possibly GMK's. The old Japanese man saying "Gojira" at the beginning of GINO doesn't really mean anything.

[Destroyer]

I honestly forgot that an old man shouted "Gojira" in the beginning of that film, haven't seen it in years. In that case then, it's linked to GMK perfectly.

[Legion1979]

I heard that the comment at the beginning of GMK was nothing more than a joke and wasn't meant to indicate that GINO was canon to anything.

[Living Corpse]

Having all of these movies into one timeline would be a total mess. Why can't people be happy with the timelines that we have?

No! People have to bitch or it will consume them, body and soul. Deal with it.

Just look no further then the whine thread for proof.

[Hellspawn28]

The GINO line in GMK was a gag line, I remember reading that the people at Sony thought that line was funny.

[Living Corpse]

The GINO line in GMK was a gag line, I remember reading that the people at Sony thought that line was funny.

Yeah I bet they would say that after how it flopped.

[MaxDefiant]

I've always considered it a "Godzilla" film.

I've never really examined how the timelines work, so I'm not going to open that can of worms, but the appearance of the 'Zilla form factor and behavior in Final Wars solidified for me that Toho accepted the idea of that film being in the overall Godzilla "canon".

I have the DVD on my shelf between the Space-Godzilla/Destroyah double feature and Godzilla 2000.

Yes, this is what I was trying to get at. I wasn't trying to connect certain movies and certain timelines, I was just saying that in my mind it is definitely a real "Godzilla" film now.

I personally like how Godzilla films are similar to James Bond films in that some are direct sequels and others star over with no regards for previous films. It frees up the writers and directors to do something new and fresh.

[Tyler]

I honestly forgot that an old man shouted "Gojira" in the beginning of that film, haven't seen it in years. In that case then, it's linked to GMK perfectly.

GINO tries to go with the "Godzilla was a bad translation" thing when in reality Toho came up with the name themselves.

[Malchik]

I honestly forgot that an old man shouted "Gojira" in the beginning of that film, haven't seen it in years. In that case then, it's linked to GMK perfectly.

GINO tries to go with the "Godzilla was a bad translation" thing when in reality Toho came up with the name themselves.

Everything else about GINO is a con, so why not that.

[kpa]

I honestly forgot that an old man shouted "Gojira" in the beginning of that film, haven't seen it in years. In that case then, it's linked to GMK perfectly.

It doesn't, because in the 1998 GODZILLA is supposed to be set in the "real" world. So, according to the film, there's never been a giant monster attack before Godzilla appears in New York City. The Gojira/Godzilla name is taken from an old Japanese legend, not a monster that appeared in 1954.

In GMK, it's established that Godzilla attacked Japan in 1954 and that other monsters have appeared from time to time in the 50 years since then. That doesn't mesh with G'98 at all.