Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

[omgitsgodzilla]

It's funny in the special effects department didn't notice that. Maybe they were too busy banging Megumi Odaka or something like that.

THe Godzilla suit was falling to pieces in Godzilla vs Gigan. Musta been getting stoned.

Well, it was 5 years old and had been used in 4 films. Maybe they were just broke after having to make the suits for Hedorah (which was huge) and Gigan (which was kind of complex and had to be partially rebuilt because the claws were initially too heavy).

[SuperSaiyan4Godzilla]

It's funny in the special effects department didn't notice that. Maybe they were too busy banging Megumi Odaka or something like that.

THe Godzilla suit was falling to pieces in Godzilla vs Gigan. Musta been getting stoned.

Well, it was 5 years old and had been used in 4 films. Maybe they were just broke after having to make the suits for Hedorah (which was huge) and Gigan (which was kind of complex and had to be partially rebuilt because the claws were initially too heavy).

Oh, I was just pointing out another time when a Godzilla suit was falling a part.

Of course, putting a latex/rubber suit in the water as often as the Godzilla suits were are gonna destroy them at a faster rate.

[Ethan]

It's funny in the special effects department didn't notice that. Maybe they were too busy banging Megumi Odaka or something like that.

THe Godzilla suit was falling to pieces in Godzilla vs Gigan. Musta been getting stoned.

Well if they didn't notice the night to day changes I believe that part could have been easily missed. But the drugs were employed in Godzilla vs. Hedorah, not Gigan.

[DaikaijuSokogeki!]

To be fair, the suit in Godzilla Vs. Gigan was only falling apart because they simply didn't have the time or resources to create a new suit. Gigan was fairly rushed out, it came out 8 months after Hedorah. Clearly, all Toho had time to do was build new suits for Gigan and King Ghidorah.

Spacegodzilla on the other hand had a pretty big budget, wasn't rushed out (it came out almost exactly a year after Mechagodzilla), and had four entirely new suits constructed. The Godzilla suit falling apart and no one catching it so it could get fixed is just a greater testament to Kawakita's utter laziness in the 1990s.

[Tyler]

The underwater scene in G2k. That sceen look so awful.

I didn't think it looked that bad. The one from Megaguirus is a lot worse. I thought the underwater shots in most of the Millennium films were quick but neat.

[Tamura]

^^King Ghidorah was a new suit? Also, SPACEGODZILLA was filmed at the same time as YAMATO TAKERU. I think that accounted for some of the really bad, rushed effects.

[DaikaijuSokogeki!]

^^King Ghidorah was a new suit? Also, SPACEGODZILLA was filmed at the same time as YAMATO TAKERU. I think that accounted for some of the really bad, rushed effects.

I'm pretty certain King Ghidorah was a new suit. I can't find good screencaps for the suits on the net, but if you watch both movies, the heads are different.

As for the Spacegodzilla/Yamato Takeru comment: while that's true, Godzilla Vs. Biollante and Gunhed were filmed at the same time from my knowledge. Both movies had effects directed by Koichi Kawakita and both movies look much more stellar than both Godzilla Vs. Spacegodzilla and Yamato Takeru. Kawakita pulled it off once before, so the fact he couldn't do it again five years later is all thanks to his uncaring attitude.

[SuperSaiyan4Godzilla]

It's funny in the special effects department didn't notice that. Maybe they were too busy banging Megumi Odaka or something like that.

THe Godzilla suit was falling to pieces in Godzilla vs Gigan. Musta been getting stoned.

Well if they didn't notice the night to day changes I believe that part could have been easily missed. But the drugs were employed in Godzilla vs. Hedorah, not Gigan.

It was the 70s. There's reasons why its not remembered. Mostly because of the cocaine. And heroin. and LSD. And us not being born yet. Though, that only applies to us.

[Cimmerian Dragon]

The underwater scene in G2k. That sceen look so awful.

I didn't think it looked that bad. The one from Megaguirus is a lot worse. I thought the underwater shots in most of the Millennium films were quick but neat.

I never got the hatred for these shots, either. The CG was alright, and it allowed us a glimpse of something we'd never been able to see before, Godzilla in full-swim mode. Add to that the fact that they were extremely short, and there's little left to bitch about.

[omgitsgodzilla]

The ones in G2K and GxM were kind of bad; I thought they looked like something out of a video game. They were acceptable though. The ones in Tokyo SOS were awesome though.

[Tamura]

The CG was alright, and it allowed us a glimpse of something we'd never been able to see before, Godzilla in full-swim mode.

Remember this?

[Goji]

^^King Ghidorah was a new suit? Also, SPACEGODZILLA was filmed at the same time as YAMATO TAKERU. I think that accounted for some of the really bad, rushed effects.

I'm pretty certain King Ghidorah was a new suit. I can't find good screencaps for the suits on the net, but if you watch both movies, the heads are different.

You sure about that? I'm pretty sure the Ghido-Goji was just a revised Bio-Goji suit. Maybe they only replaced the head.

The CG was alright, and it allowed us a glimpse of something we'd never been able to see before, Godzilla in full-swim mode.

Remember this?

Lol..man, that scene makes me giggle everytime.

It may be of some interest to you (Tamura), but the scenes of Godzilla swimming were missing completely from the screener copy of BIOLLANTE I used to have. When I bought the HBO tape, it was shocked to see it!

[Tyler]

As for the Spacegodzilla/Yamato Takeru comment: while that's true, Godzilla Vs. Biollante and Gunhed were filmed at the same time from my knowledge. Both movies had effects directed by Koichi Kawakita and both movies look much more stellar than both Godzilla Vs. Spacegodzilla and Yamato Takeru. Kawakita pulled it off once before, so the fact he couldn't do it again five years later is all thanks to his uncaring attitude.

It's also funny to think Tsuburaya filmed Mothra vs. Godzilla, Ghidorah and Dogora all in the same year and they looked good for their time and still hold up.

[Gojira-Fan]

Well, these aren't "errors", but the topic is talking about poor special effects, not errors.

King Ghidorah lacked personality in GIGAN in contrast to his previous appearances, due to his lack of movement. H really seemed less alive.

While I agree with you, I still don't get how this is a "bad" SPX, considering King Ghidorah didn't actually DO anything. Laziness on part of the filmmakers by utilizing 90% stock footage for Ghidorah's action sequences, I think is a more appropriate complaint.

Even when King Ghidorah is just standing around he seems lifeless. He should be flapping his wings. He should be moving his heads.

As for MEGALON, sets are an important part of these movies. The final fight in Megalon takes place in the countryside, and while this has been done before fine, the set just isn't as good as say the countryside sets of Mothra Vs. Godzilla.

Right, but so does HEDORAH, MECHAGODZILLA and parts of GIGAN and TOMG, though you didn't mention any of those films. The 70's films had much smaller budgets in comparison to the early 60's films, which explains the lack of detail/miniatures in the landscapes.
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Well, I re-watched some footage from MEGALON, and I think I was judging it a little harshly now. The set wasn't quite as bad as I remembered.

[Goji]

^ To be fair (the landscape in MEGALON) it's not that bad..but it's not that great either. I wasn't defending it, just giving an explanation why it looked so mediocre.

I completely agree that King Ghidorah is very lifeless in GIGAN. I just wonder if the production ran out of $, which is why (nearly) all of his action sequences are made up of stock footage from superior films, or if they just felt that the costume looked so bad at that point, it wasn't really worth it to do so. It could have been a little of both.

[Cimmerian Dragon]

Remember this?

Nope, forgot all about it.

Still, not quite the same as what they attempted later.

[Captain Aktion]

Might just be me, but the only SFX that spring to mind right off are from G vs. Destoroyah. The little Destys jar me right the eff out of the flick every time. Not only do they look out of place in a Godzilla film (that's just me though), but their effects would've been laughable a decade earlier. Their design was clearly something that was beyond the means to execute with their budget, but someone stubbornly stuck with it. Destoroyah itself worked OKAY, but the little ones were awful every time they were on-screen.

[tymon]

^Yeah, Burning Godzilla, Godzilla Junior and CGI Meltdown Gozilla stole the show in an otherwise weak SFX effort.

[Cimmerian Dragon]

the little ones were awful every time they were on-screen.

But they made for one damn fine Bandai figure.

Too bad the miniatures in the movie were no more life-like than the one sitting on my mantle.

[Proofpoochie]

Megalon has the worst stock footage and SFX errors of any Godzilla film but, the final shot in Final Wars(the rest of the movie looked fine, though) and the infamous shot of Godzilla in Godzilla 2000 stand out as some of the worst effects in the series.