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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby Goji » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:34 am

^ That's the Japanese version, right?
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby Legionmaster » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:42 am

Goji wrote:^ That's the Japanese version, right?

If there's two prints, then it's def the Japanese one without the wires.
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby Goji » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:13 am

^ Okay, gotcha. That's another thing that makes it hard to add any weight to my theory, since only the Japanese version has been released in other territories. The only way to really be sure would be to see a 35mm print of the international version, and see if the strings are still present there.
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby Crazy-c » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:59 am

Oh god where do I start? Lol I could make a hour long video pointing out terrible effects so Im just going to list the movies with the worst effects.

Godzilla vs Megagirus (good lord there were strings EVERYwhere in this film and they were all visible, its like they didn't care, laughable CGI, and terrible usage of blue screens) This film was just an all around an embarrassment for something to come out in the 2000"s.

Godzilla Vs Gigan (toy puppets anyone?)

Godzilla Vs Hedroah (flying godzilla)

Godzilla Vs King Ghidorah 1991 (too many strings)

Godzilla's Revenge

Son of Godzilla

Godzilla vs King Kong (terrible blue screens)

Godzilla Vs SpaceGodzilla (space scene, nuff said)

plus many other scenes that I don't feel like listing.
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:14 am

Godzilla Vs Hedroah (flying godzilla)

Godzilla's Revenge

Son of Godzilla


...How do any of these films have bad effects?

Outside of the flying Godzilla prop, Godzilla vs. Hedorah has pretty damn good effects. For example, the Oil Refinery scene still looks impressive today and blows my mind every time I watch it.

All Monsters Attack, while only have one or two scenes with new special effects, pulls off those effects just fine. I can't complain about how they look, since they're done competently.

Son Of Godzilla has some of the best effects of the Showa series. The final fight in the snow is done so well that it nearly takes on a whole other level of beauty. Not to mention, if you're watching the Sony DVD version of the film, the Kamacuras and Kumonga props look stunning with the color enhancements.
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby Crazy-c » Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:39 am

GotengoXGodzilla wrote:
Godzilla Vs Hedroah (flying godzilla)

Godzilla's Revenge

Son of Godzilla


...How do any of these films have bad effects?

Outside of the flying Godzilla prop, Godzilla vs. Hedorah has pretty damn good effects. For example, the Oil Refinery scene still looks impressive today and blows my mind every time I watch it.

All Monsters Attack, while only have one or two scenes with new special effects, pulls off those effects just fine. I can't complain about how they look, since they're done competently.

Son Of Godzilla has some of the best effects of the Showa series. The final fight in the snow is done so well that it nearly takes on a whole other level of beauty. Not to mention, if you're watching the Sony DVD version of the film, the Kamacuras and Kumonga props look stunning with the color enhancements.
I haven't really seen those films in a long time but I remember they being especially bad with terrible suit designs and effects. Maybe Hedorah is not that bad but Godzilla's revenge and Son Of Godzilla did have some pretty bad effects.
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:44 am

I haven't really seen those films in a long time but I remember they being especially bad with terrible suit designs and effects. Maybe Hedorah is not that bad but Godzilla's revenge and Son Of Godzilla did have some pretty bad effects.


Well, for one, suit designs are not special effects, therefore they don't matter for this particular topic. Two, I don't see how All Monsters Attack and Son Of Godzilla have bad effects. I was impressed by the effects in Son Of Godzilla and firmly believe they're some of the best in the franchise. All Monsters Attack's effects are competent and I see no reason to complain about them.

There are plenty of things to complain about in All Monsters Attack, but the effects in the new scenes are not one of them.
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby Crazy-c » Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:54 am

GotengoXGodzilla wrote:
I haven't really seen those films in a long time but I remember they being especially bad with terrible suit designs and effects. Maybe Hedorah is not that bad but Godzilla's revenge and Son Of Godzilla did have some pretty bad effects.


Well, for one, suit designs are not special effects, therefore they don't matter for this particular topic. Two, I don't see how All Monsters Attack and Son Of Godzilla have bad effects. I was impressed by the effects in Son Of Godzilla and firmly believe they're some of the best in the franchise. All Monsters Attack's effects are competent and I see no reason to complain about them.

There are plenty of things to complain about in All Monsters Attack, but the effects in the new scenes are not one of them.
Well I guess I don't have too much room to talk as I haven't seen those three films in a long time but I do remember them being terrible movies, well except for maybe son of Godzilla because its so bad its funny.
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:11 am

Well I guess I don't have too much room to talk as I haven't seen those three films but I do remember them being terrible movies, well except for maybe son of Godzilla because its so bad its funny.


...Godzilla vs. Hedorah and Son Of Godzilla, critically, are great films. Some of the best of the entire franchise. There is very little bad about either film.

Godzilla vs. Hedorah, while differing greatly from all other Godzilla films, is interesting for that very same reason. The film is done with competence and respect towards the subject matter, with a style which makes the film immediately grab your attention and the film never lets go. Style is what makes this film so interesting. The way certain scenes are shot, the animated segments, the odd artistic decisions and more. These parts give the film a life of its own.

Son Of Godzilla, on the other hand, is a near perfect monster movie. The story is tight yet focused, the characters are developed, the monsters actually do more than just act like monsters (as in they're given character and behave as such), the action scenes serve a purpose in terms of the story, the effects are well done, the music sets the atmospheric tone while breathing life into the film, it has themes of helping the next generation of one's kind, and it one of the best endings of the entire franchise. It really has everything a monster film should have. The only problem I see with the film is the Godzilla suit, which is still one of the worst. Outside of that though, you really can't ask for a better monster film.

All Monsters Attack has lots of problems, but it's a respectable piece of work. I don't particularly care for it, but I know plenty of people that like it.

Honestly, I would take Godzilla vs. Hedorah and Son Of Godzilla over just about every Godzilla film made after 1975.

EDIT: If you haven't seen any of those films, how do you know they're terrible?
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby Crazy-c » Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:34 am

GotengoXGodzilla wrote:
Well I guess I don't have too much room to talk as I haven't seen those three films but I do remember them being terrible movies, well except for maybe son of Godzilla because its so bad its funny.


...Godzilla vs. Hedorah and Son Of Godzilla, critically, are great films. Some of the best of the entire franchise. There is very little bad about either film.

Godzilla vs. Hedorah, while differing greatly from all other Godzilla films, is interesting for that very same reason. The film is done with competence and respect towards the subject matter, with a style which makes the film immediately grab your attention and the film never lets go. Style is what makes this film so interesting. The way certain scenes are shot, the animated segments, the odd artistic decisions and more. These parts give the film a life of its own.

Son Of Godzilla, on the other hand, is a near perfect monster movie. The story is tight yet focused, the characters are developed, the monsters actually do more than just act like monsters (as in they're given character and behave as such), the action scenes serve a purpose in terms of the story, the effects are well done, the music sets the atmospheric tone while breathing life into the film, it has themes of helping the next generation of one's kind, and it one of the best endings of the entire franchise. It really has everything a monster film should have. The only problem I see with the film is the Godzilla suit, which is still one of the worst. Outside of that though, you really can't ask for a better monster film.

All Monsters Attack has lots of problems, but it's a respectable piece of work. I don't particularly care for it, but I know plenty of people that like it.

Honestly, I would take Godzilla vs. Hedorah and Son Of Godzilla over just about every Godzilla film made after 1975.

EDIT: If you haven't seen any of those films, how do you know they're terrible?


Read my edit. I just haven't seen them In a while. I remember Hedorah as an all over the place film. It really doesn't know what it wan't to be. It is a godzilla movie? It some kinda of drug enducing trip out movie? Or is it is a children's film aimed to bring an environmental message in the film? There were just too many different elements in the movie that didn't blend in with one another. Some parts were just really weird and dark and some parts were just plain silly.

As for Son Of Godzilla I appreciated that it did something different but I just couldn't take it seriously (ok I don't really take any Godzilla film seriously, except for maybe the original) there are just so many silly moments I can't help but laugh. Its entertaining, but silly.

As for Godzilla's Revenge I don't touch that film anymore. Son of Godzilla was funny but Revenge or All out Attack (never heard it called that) was just painful for me to watch.
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby Sydney Aradi » Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:39 am

@Crazy-C Sure Son of Godzilla is silly but it is a pretty well made film and sometimes Crazy, some sillyness in a film isn't bad in fact look at a film like say Godzilla vs Megalon. Yes it is silly but it can be quite entertaining
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:50 am

I remember Hedorah as an all over the place film. It really doesn't know what it wan't to be. It is a godzilla movie? It some kinda of drug enducing trip out movie? Or is it is a children's film aimed to bring an environmental message in the film? There were just too many different elements in the movie that didn't blend in with one another. Some parts were just really weird and dark and some parts were just plain silly.


I don't see how anyone could think Godzilla vs. Hedorah is a children's film, when its easily the darkest and most disturbing Godzilla film since the original. Also, Godzilla vs. Hedorah knows exactly what it wants to be: a '70s movie. Godzilla vs. Hedorah is a product of the times. Banno wanted to make a statement about pollution while also having Godzilla in the film, so he decided to go all out. That's fine with me.

As for Son Of Godzilla I appreciated that it did something different but I just couldn't take it seriously (ok I don't really take any Godzilla film seriously, except for maybe the original) there are just so many silly moments I can't help but laugh. Its entertaining, but silly.


And examples of the film being silly would be...? Also, even if the film is silly, who cares? There are parts that are suppose to make you laugh, such as many scenes involving Minya. If they make you laugh, the movie is doing its job.

Silly is not a bad thing. It just means that Son Of Godzilla has a more whimsical atmosphere than most Godzilla films.

As for Godzilla's Revenge I don't touch that film anymore. Son of Godzilla was funny but Revenge or All out Attack (never heard it called that) was just painful for me to watch.


All Monsters Attack is the true Japanese title. "Godzilla's Revenge" is just the American name for the film. Since the film was made in Japan, the proper title is All Monsters Attack. Just like it's not "Godzilla vs. Monster Zero", it's Invasion Of Astro-Monster. It's not "Godzilla vs. The Thing", it's Mothra vs. Godzilla.
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby Mincecraft » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:25 am

I can list a load of bad moments. Surprised the asteroids from GvsSG havnt been mentioned as much as I thought.
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby Gyaos » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:42 am

I honestly dont see the strings or velcro pads in the Space scene from GvsSG.
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby Mincecraft » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:49 am

Gyaos wrote:I honestly dont see the strings or velcro pads in the Space scene from GvsSG.


I say the same thing. They move so fast, how do you know?
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby Gojira1963 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:01 am

I would vote for the Space scenes in Godzilla vs SpaceGodzilla, man is it terrible! I just watched it the other night. I am on a Godzilla kick right now watching all of the movies. Watched Gigan last night. The shots of the lifeless King Ghidorah are pretty bad.

I read through this thread. Now I have to go back and watch the part where the Soldiers stand on King Kong. There is one quick shot in that movie, I think they are kicking each other, where both Godzilla and King Kong look like malnourished puppets!

Edit: I just watched the scene with the soldiers standing atop king! Wow I never noticed they were cartoons before!!! :huge:
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby Manda2012 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:01 am

I hate seeing the re-cycled FX in the last of the Showa films.
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:02 pm

Manda2012 wrote:I hate seeing the re-cycled FX in the last of the Showa films.


There is little to no recycled effects used in Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla and Terror Of MechaGodzilla.
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby Gojira-Fan » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:15 pm

GotengoXGodzilla wrote:
Manda2012 wrote:I hate seeing the re-cycled FX in the last of the Showa films.


There is little to no recycled effects used in Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla and Terror Of MechaGodzilla.


Unless you count the flipped footage of Mechagodzilla unloading his arsenal in Terror of Mechagodzilla. Or the "flashback" moments when Katsura mentions Rodan, Manda and King Ghidorah.
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby Ethan » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:19 pm

Gojira-Fan wrote:
GotengoXGodzilla wrote:
Manda2012 wrote:I hate seeing the re-cycled FX in the last of the Showa films.


There is little to no recycled effects used in Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla and Terror Of MechaGodzilla.


Unless you count the flipped footage of Mechagodzilla unloading his arsenal in Terror of Mechagodzilla. Or the "flashback" moments when Katsura mentions Rodan, Manda and King Ghidorah.

Or the tinted shots of tanks attacking Titanosaurus, all from Monster Zero. Or the explosions from Atragon.
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