Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby Goji » Wed May 23, 2012 1:07 pm

I could be wrong, but that's probably before Toho invested in the expensive optical printer, which made the composites in the films that followed considerably better.

I like the stop motion tentacle, personally. Looks a lot better than Godzilla jump kicking Kong later on in the movie. :P
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby Tamura » Wed May 23, 2012 1:08 pm

I think the sheer epicness of KING KONG VS. GODZILLA makes up for any modern views of the special effects.
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby Gussilla95 » Sat May 26, 2012 3:39 am

Not a bad Special Effect but I was just wondering. The ape monster alien dude on the ferry in GvMG (1974), when he gets flipped over the side, was a dummy used?
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby RedZillaKing » Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:29 pm

Don't know if anyone mentioned this earlier, but the Heisei/Millenium marionettes are sometimes notably worse (or at least not not improved despite advances in technology) than those in the Showa films. Hell, you could actually see Megaguirus's strings at one point!
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby ScootaVaran » Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:57 pm

I have to go the asteroid fight in Godzilla vs SpaceGodzilla. it was pretty bad.
Another one would have to be the stop motion/puppet thing from Godzilla returns. It was so odd and looked nothing like the full suit.
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:28 pm

RedZillaKing wrote:Don't know if anyone mentioned this earlier, but the Heisei/Millenium marionettes are sometimes notably worse (or at least not not improved despite advances in technology) than those in the Showa films. Hell, you could actually see Megaguirus's strings at one point!


Don't forget the Destroyah vs Tanks scene. Or M11 running.
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby kaiju115 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:32 pm

I'd probably go with the CGI effects in Godzilla vs Megaguirus, they look awful.
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby Tyler » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:56 pm

RedZillaKing wrote:Hell, you could actually see Megaguirus's strings at one point!


Isn't this only on the Sony DVD?
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby RedZillaKing » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:57 pm

Perhaps, but that's the only way I've seen it so...
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby Tamura » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:02 pm

Has anyone ever entertained the thought that Sony actually did a really decent, detailed master for MEGAGUIRUS, and that the wires appear to be missing from the Toho DVD and HD version because they are amateurish transfers? I know this is the case with GvsMG74; some have said that Toho removed several instances of prominent wires from that movie, but in reality Toho's transfer was just blurry and gave the impression of that.
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:51 pm

Tamura wrote:Has anyone ever entertained the thought that Sony actually did a really decent, detailed master for MEGAGUIRUS, and that the wires appear to be missing from the Toho DVD and HD version because they are amateurish transfers? I know this is the case with GvsMG74; some have said that Toho removed several instances of prominent wires from that movie, but in reality Toho's transfer was just blurry and gave the impression of that.


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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby Ethan » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:55 pm

Tamura wrote:Has anyone ever entertained the thought that Sony actually did a really decent, detailed master for MEGAGUIRUS, and that the wires appear to be missing from the Toho DVD and HD version because they are amateurish transfers? I know this is the case with GvsMG74; some have said that Toho removed several instances of prominent wires from that movie, but in reality Toho's transfer was just blurry and gave the impression of that.

Toho's HDTV of Godzilla vs. Megaguirus is quite soft compared to the Sony DVD, but not enough to hide such prominent strings, they simply aren't there. My guess is that those string were always meant to be removed in post-production, and the print Sony was given simply didn't have that process applied. There are noticeable wires in The Return of Godzilla and that version is quite soft, too.
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby The Dark Uniter » Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:18 am

Funny you guys are mentioning Toho removing wires, on my HD copy of Rodan, when the Rodans are attacking the city, all traces of wires are gone whereas the Classic Media DVD had wires all over the place, though the American cut also removed the wires somehow.
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby Goji » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:27 am

Ethan wrote:Toho's HDTV of Godzilla vs. Megaguirus is quite soft compared to the Sony DVD, but not enough to hide such prominent strings, they simply aren't there. My guess is that those string were always meant to be removed in post-production, and the print Sony was given simply didn't have that process applied. There are noticeable wires in The Return of Godzilla and that version is quite soft, too.


Yeah, I have a theory that Toho's international version simply didn't receive the same treatment.
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby Legionmaster » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:32 am

I have the Hong Kong DVD (Region...3?) and it also doesn't have wires.
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby Goji » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:34 am

^ That's the Japanese version, right?
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby Legionmaster » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:42 am

Goji wrote:^ That's the Japanese version, right?

If there's two prints, then it's def the Japanese one without the wires.
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby Goji » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:13 am

^ Okay, gotcha. That's another thing that makes it hard to add any weight to my theory, since only the Japanese version has been released in other territories. The only way to really be sure would be to see a 35mm print of the international version, and see if the strings are still present there.
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby Crazy-c » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:59 am

Oh god where do I start? Lol I could make a hour long video pointing out terrible effects so Im just going to list the movies with the worst effects.

Godzilla vs Megagirus (good lord there were strings EVERYwhere in this film and they were all visible, its like they didn't care, laughable CGI, and terrible usage of blue screens) This film was just an all around an embarrassment for something to come out in the 2000"s.

Godzilla Vs Gigan (toy puppets anyone?)

Godzilla Vs Hedroah (flying godzilla)

Godzilla Vs King Ghidorah 1991 (too many strings)

Godzilla's Revenge

Son of Godzilla

Godzilla vs King Kong (terrible blue screens)

Godzilla Vs SpaceGodzilla (space scene, nuff said)

plus many other scenes that I don't feel like listing.
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Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:14 am

Godzilla Vs Hedroah (flying godzilla)

Godzilla's Revenge

Son of Godzilla


...How do any of these films have bad effects?

Outside of the flying Godzilla prop, Godzilla vs. Hedorah has pretty damn good effects. For example, the Oil Refinery scene still looks impressive today and blows my mind every time I watch it.

All Monsters Attack, while only have one or two scenes with new special effects, pulls off those effects just fine. I can't complain about how they look, since they're done competently.

Son Of Godzilla has some of the best effects of the Showa series. The final fight in the snow is done so well that it nearly takes on a whole other level of beauty. Not to mention, if you're watching the Sony DVD version of the film, the Kamacuras and Kumonga props look stunning with the color enhancements.
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