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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby MaxRebo320 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:06 pm

goji89 wrote:I meant....bear with me now, it hurt emotionally from you thinking Gigan and Anguirus are midcard kaiju.

That is so wrong on so many levels.....because MAYBE it could be true.

In terms of recognition by the general public and more casual fans, most definitely. Your average Joe on the street isn't going to know who the likes of Anguirus, Hedorah, Gigan, etc. are, but a more casual fan (i.e Somebody who's seen a small handful of movies or played some video games) might, while still being unaware of the likes of Varan, Ebirah, etc., characters only T R U E F A N S tend to know.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Grievous » Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:23 pm

goji89 wrote:This post hurts just from reading it....midcard?

Applying "Wrestling Terminology" to Kaiju kind of works...

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Especially when watching the 70's era...although thankfully
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby kamilleblu » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:59 pm

Anguirus is popular? Maybe within the US fandom. But remember he was axed from GMK because Toho thought he was too obscure of a character. Baragon is the bigger draw and not even he was included in the title of GMK.

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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby KillCrites » Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:14 am

kamilleblu wrote:Anguirus is popular? Maybe within the US fandom. But remember he was axed from GMK because Toho thought he was too obscure of a character. Baragon is the bigger draw and not even he was included in the title of GMK.

Toho thinks every character that's not King Ghidorah, Mothra, Rodan, or Mechagodzilla is obscure
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Living Corpse » Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:16 am

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kamilleblu wrote:Anguirus is popular? Maybe within the US fandom. But remember he was axed from GMK because Toho thought he was too obscure of a character. Baragon is the bigger draw and not even he was included in the title of GMK.

Toho thinks every character that's not King Ghidorah, Mothra, Rodan, or Mechagodzilla is obscure


I mean, they're kind of right. To Godzilla fans it's obvious who he is, but most people don't know anyone outside of the Big 5. Hell a lot of people don't even know the big 5.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby KillCrites » Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:19 am

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kamilleblu wrote:Anguirus is popular? Maybe within the US fandom. But remember he was axed from GMK because Toho thought he was too obscure of a character. Baragon is the bigger draw and not even he was included in the title of GMK.

Toho thinks every character that's not King Ghidorah, Mothra, Rodan, or Mechagodzilla is obscure


I mean, they're kind of right. To Godzilla fans it's obvious who he is, but most people don't know anyone outside of the Big 5. Hell a lot of people don't even know the big 5.

I should've said "Toho thinks every character that's not King Ghidorah, Mothra, Rodan, or Mechagodzilla is too obscure to use in anything"
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby JAGzilla » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:20 am

^ And even Rodan seems to be pushing it a little. His last serious appearance was in 1993, after all. Fortunately, times are a-changin' for him...

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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Godzillian » Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:50 am

JAGzilla wrote:^ And even Rodan seems to be pushing it a little. His last serious appearance was in 1993, after all. Fortunately, times are a-changin' for him...

And yet Rodan still has made a spot for himself in collective pop culture and is recognizable to even people unfamiliar with kaiju unlike Anguirus, the Gargantuas, and pretty much every other Toho kaiju
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby eabaker » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:07 am

The original Rodan had a good advertising campaign and a successful run in the U.S. and was visible on TV for quite awhile, and the charatcer was part of both the Aurora model kit series and the Shogun Warriors toy line. The character definitely had a much bigger impact on American pop culture than most other Toho kaiju. I'd say, in terms of recognizability to mainstream American audiences, Toho has a "big 3" Godzilla, Rodan and Mothra.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby _JNavs_ » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:22 am

eabaker wrote:The original Rodan had a good advertising campaign and a successful run in the U.S. and was visible on TV for quite awhile, and the charatcer was part of both the Aurora model kit series and the Shogun Warriors toy line. The character definitely had a much bigger impact on American pop culture than most other Toho kaiju. I'd say, in terms of recognizability to mainstream American audiences, Toho has a "big 3" Godzilla, Rodan and Mothra.

I may not have been around at that point, but I could definitely picture a time where the OG Rodan would be pretty big and successful in the states, just due to the U.S's love for jets and giant flying birds around that time
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby mikelcho » Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:08 pm

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That's pretty funny. Do you mean Big Hero Six, though?

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Postby MikeSTZillak » Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:01 pm

I would be more excited for a Godzilla film from Tim Burton than one from Guillermo del Toro.
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Postby MechaGoji Bro7503 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:07 pm

MikeSTZillak wrote:I would be more excited for a Godzilla film from Tim Burton than one from Guillermo del Toro.

Oh, me too! Tim Burton could also pull together better human characters than Del Toro, along with just as good stuff on the visual side.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby goji89 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:08 pm

MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:
MikeSTZillak wrote:I would be more excited for a Godzilla film from Tim Burton than one from Guillermo del Toro.

Oh, me too! Tim Burton could also pull together better human characters than Del Toro, along with just as good stuff on the visual side.


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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby eabaker » Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:09 pm

MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:
MikeSTZillak wrote:I would be more excited for a Godzilla film from Tim Burton than one from Guillermo del Toro.

Oh, me too! Tim Burton could also pull together better human characters than Del Toro, along with just as good stuff on the visual side.


Agreed. Although, ultimately, I think the quality of a Burton kaiju flick would largely come down to the screenwriter.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Dracosaurian » Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:21 am

From what I've seen, I like Legendary's Mothra larva design way more than the previous one.

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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Grievous » Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:11 am

MikeSTZillak wrote:I would be more excited for a Godzilla film from Tim Burton than one from Guillermo del Toro.

*Thinks*

I think I'd like to see that...
just to see the artistic style
& overall film design.

:?

Del Toro already gave us a kaiju film...
and its a fantastic one at that.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Living Corpse » Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:34 am

Godzillian wrote:
JAGzilla wrote:^ And even Rodan seems to be pushing it a little. His last serious appearance was in 1993, after all. Fortunately, times are a-changin' for him...

And yet Rodan still has made a spot for himself in collective pop culture and is recognizable to even people unfamiliar with kaiju unlike Anguirus, the Gargantuas, and pretty much every other Toho kaiju


Rodan's just been misused by Toho since the 70's, he's reduced to cameos or being a walking matt, it's a big disservice to the character. Hell there are games where Rodan is not in at all.
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Postby Tyrant_Lizard_King » Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:08 am

Good thing Dougherty is a Rodan fan then.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Maritonic » Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:54 am

Confession: I think Angurius is very overrated in the fandom. He's got his place in the vast mythology, sure, but he's pretty much useless in the big picture from my perspective.
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