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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Maritonic » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:55 pm

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I consider Megaguirus the worst. Hate that film

That's actually my fifth least favorite, behind Gigan and G'98


Whoa whoa Gigan doesn't deserve that shiit!! Where's goji89?! He'll have a heartattack!
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby UltramanGoji » Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:07 pm

I'll be the one to take the heart attack in goji's place! Gigan's fun!
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Zarm » Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:14 pm

You riled the Gigan fans, boy. You don't even realize what you done. Now, things is gonna get messy. :)
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Maritonic » Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:15 pm

Zarm wrote:You riled the Gigan fans, boy. You don't even realize what you done. Now, things is gonna get messy. :)


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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Dr. Professor » Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:20 pm

Alright, in all honesty I haven't watched Gigan in years so I can barely remember it. I just remember disliking it when I did watch it. I'm pretty sure Tokyo S.O.S. was in my top ten back then too so I'll have to just watch it again. Sorry, everyone. :lol:
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby goji89 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:23 pm

Dr. Professor wrote:That's actually my fifth least favorite, behind Gigan and G'98


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I mean Ive read some stupid, crazy, mean, ignorant, absurd, funny, ridiculous and wholesome....things here in TK but I have never seen such a post that just breaks all Godzilla norms. I truly believe sir that we all here at TK feel sorry for that opinion (or whatever the hell you call it) and that you seek help immediately.

Gigan has the most memorable scenes in the franchise. Talking Goji and Anguirus, red blood, violent as hell, the corn guy, hippies, giant alien roaches, stock footage galore and the fighting stage is a theme park for crying out loud.....I mean, Jesus....I gotta sit down.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby SoggyNoodles2016 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:41 pm

For shame, Doctor. For shame.

Anyways, here's a whole bunch of confessions at once.

- I don't hate everything to do with Anime Mechagodzilla.
- Mentioned on the Unpopular Opinion thread, but I prefer Hattoi's Godzilla 2000 score to most of Robinson's.
- The one thing that makes me love Godzilla vs Destoryah is the emotional stakes in the kaiju scenes. The final battleisn't "let's hope mean Godzilla stops that meaner monster or humanity doomed" or "lets hope that good monster beats Godzilla", it's a dying father using everything he's got to kill his son's wicked murder. Not to mention the ending.
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And this one's gonna get me some hate.


I think the Godzilla fandom has a REALLY bad problem putting anything "serious" or "dark" on a pedestal while vehemently critiquing anything light hearted. This is why for so long, the Heisei series was the cream of the crop while Showa film outside of Honda was luckily to be considered passable.

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Note: the last thing is referring to how Son Of Godzilla was considered bad because baby Godzilla, while Godzilla vs Mothra was genuinely considered great. I am not suggesting that people need to stop appreciating Shin and start loving Godzilla's Revenge.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby JAGzilla » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:55 pm

SoggyNoodles2016 wrote: I am not suggesting that people need to stop appreciating Shin and start loving Godzilla's Revenge.



That'd be really cool, though. :lol:

But I can't in good conscience steer people away from Shin. It's not my ideal cup of tea (which is not to say I dislike it, because I don't), but I feel that the current experimental phase is important. Godzilla has always changed with the times, and if we want him to stick around, filmmakers will need to break the mold, try new things, and find out what works.

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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Ivo-goji » Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:22 pm

I never thought about it much before, but Shin is a much 'safer' film than fans usually take it to be.

Yes, it's experimental, but it's a one-and-done experiment. It never felt like a movie that was going to change the nature of Godzilla long term, like how GTTHM or RoG made long lasting changes to the character.

Maybe it isn't fair to say that, since Shin -could- have been that kind of movie in different circumstances, and I'm not sure we would know what a true epoch-shifting movie would be if we saw one, but it's hard for me not to look at it this way.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby JAGzilla » Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:16 pm

I don't think we know it was a one-shot yet, though, do we? It made money, and therefore could very well be the start of something. If nothing else, it showed Toho that they can step outside the standard box with Godzilla and still be successful. Time will tell what they decide to do going forward, though.

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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Grievous » Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:18 pm

SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:And this one's gonna get me some hate.

I think the Godzilla fandom has a REALLY bad problem putting anything "serious" or "dark" on a pedestal while vehemently critiquing anything light hearted.

Not from me...I fully agree with you.

There is nothing wrong with a kaiju film being serious & dark...BUT...
there is nothing wrong with a kaiju film being campy & fun either.

While I enjoy the entire franchise & its "ups & downs" & "tone shifts"
if I'm being honest with myself & all of you here...its the 70's films that
I enjoy the most...especially vs. Hedorah & vs. MechaGodzilla...hell...
I kind of love vs. Megalon...but that's mainly because MST3K helped
me love it.

While I understand the core of the Godzilla character was to basically
be the living embodiment of nuclear destruction...I have no problem
with him being "Earth's Giant Guard Dog" either.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Maritonic » Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:49 am

SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:I think the Godzilla fandom has a REALLY bad problem putting anything "serious" or "dark" on a pedestal while vehemently critiquing anything light hearted. This is why for so long, the Heisei series was the cream of the crop while Showa film outside of Honda was luckily to be considered passable.


I'll agree with this. Son of Godzilla is one of the best in the franchise, as far as I'm concerned. I try not to let tone dictate quality, unless it's relevant. Example; Gojira should be dark, considering the theme of the film deals with the atomic bomb.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Mr_Goji_and_Watch » Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:50 am

SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:I think the Godzilla fandom has a REALLY bad problem putting anything "serious" or "dark" on a pedestal while vehemently critiquing anything light hearted. This is why for so long, the Heisei series was the cream of the crop while Showa film outside of Honda was luckily to be considered passable.


Definitely. And I bet it's because fans desperately want to validate their tastes/liking of the franchise somehow. Which is funny because despite all of the "Heisei is serious" talk it's probably the corniest series because of how badly it tries to play straight certain elements.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby MechaGoji Bro7503 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:26 pm

Mr_Goji_and_Watch wrote:
SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:I think the Godzilla fandom has a REALLY bad problem putting anything "serious" or "dark" on a pedestal while vehemently critiquing anything light hearted. This is why for so long, the Heisei series was the cream of the crop while Showa film outside of Honda was luckily to be considered passable.


Definitely. And I bet it's because fans desperately want to validate their tastes/liking of the franchise somehow. Which is funny because despite all of the "Heisei is serious" talk it's probably the corniest series because of how badly it tries to play straight certain elements.

That scene in vs Spacegodzilla where Miki uses her magic plot powers to lift herself and the table into the air always gets to me.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:21 pm

Confession time:

Akane is probably one of my favorite characters in the series.

Bigger confession:

Mark Jackson is my favorite Toho kaiju movie character hands down. It's a damn shame I don't even see the guy even mentioned around here.
#mostunderrated
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Godzilla21 wrote:What is up with the American trope of hide the monster?

Jaws happened


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Ryguy wrote:When the new director is announced, I guarantee this fanbase will be torn through the middle...

We're always split down the middle. TK is like a giant buttcrack.


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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby goji89 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:24 pm

Kaiju-King42 wrote:Confession time:

Akane is probably one of my favorite characters in the series.

Bigger confession:

Mark Jackson is my favorite Toho kaiju movie character hands down. It's a damn shame I don't even see the guy even mentioned around here.
#mostunderrated


Bigger question:

Who the hell are you talking about? What is a Mark Jackson?
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:29 pm

goji89 wrote:
Kaiju-King42 wrote:Confession time:

Akane is probably one of my favorite characters in the series.

Bigger confession:

Mark Jackson is my favorite Toho kaiju movie character hands down. It's a damn shame I don't even see the guy even mentioned around here.
#mostunderrated


Bigger question:

Who the hell are you talking about? What is a Mark Jackson?


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This genius from Dogora. He stole the spotlight of that movie.
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Godzilla21 wrote:What is up with the American trope of hide the monster?

Jaws happened


ernesth100 wrote:
Ryguy wrote:When the new director is announced, I guarantee this fanbase will be torn through the middle...

We're always split down the middle. TK is like a giant buttcrack.


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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby goji89 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:31 pm

Kaiju-King42 wrote:
goji89 wrote:
Kaiju-King42 wrote:Confession time:

Akane is probably one of my favorite characters in the series.

Bigger confession:

Mark Jackson is my favorite Toho kaiju movie character hands down. It's a damn shame I don't even see the guy even mentioned around here.
#mostunderrated


Bigger question:

Who the hell are you talking about? What is a Mark Jackson?


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This genius from Dogora. He stole the spotlight of that movie.


Your right.....he is underrated because I dont know him.

Should point out I never watched Dogora..... :huge:
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:34 pm

goji89 wrote:
Kaiju-King42 wrote:
goji89 wrote:
Bigger question:

Who the hell are you talking about? What is a Mark Jackson?


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This genius from Dogora. He stole the spotlight of that movie.


Your right.....he is underrated because I dont know him.

Should point out I never watched Dogora..... :huge:


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Godzilla21 wrote:What is up with the American trope of hide the monster?

Jaws happened


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Ryguy wrote:When the new director is announced, I guarantee this fanbase will be torn through the middle...

We're always split down the middle. TK is like a giant buttcrack.


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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby eabaker » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:45 pm

goji89 wrote:
Kaiju-King42 wrote:
goji89 wrote:
Bigger question:

Who the hell are you talking about? What is a Mark Jackson?


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This genius from Dogora. He stole the spotlight of that movie.


Your right.....he is underrated because I dont know him.

Should point out I never watched Dogora..... :huge:


You really should check it out. Robert Dunham is a ton of fun as Mark (though it bothers me that everybody uses "Mark" as though it were his family name rather than his given name), he and Yosuke Natsuki have terrific chemistry, and the gang of jewel thieves (including Akiko Wakabayashi and Hideyo Amamoto) are delightful.
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