Kaiju Fan Confessions

[Cryptid_Liker]

Yes, it's a very out-there idea but like Desghidorah said, we've seen every side of the Godzilla-alignment-spectrum except a full-blown hero. Definitely something that the West have more chance of dong, though

[Voyager]

I wouldn't be outright opposed to a full hero Godzilla if one comes along, but I think that kind of thing, digging survivors out of the rubble or holding up collapsing bridges... that's best left for kaiju like Gamera or Mothra. Godzilla should always keep a little bit of a hard edge.

Or maybe Godzilla's offspring (whether it be Minya, G Jr, or heck, even Godzooky) could play that savior part.

[Cryptid_Liker]

I wouldn't be outright opposed to a full hero Godzilla if one comes along, but I think that kind of thing, digging survivors out of the rubble or holding up collapsing bridges... that's best left for kaiju like Gamera or Mothra. Godzilla should always keep a little bit of a hard edge.

Or maybe Godzilla's offspring (whether it be Minya, G Jr, or heck, even Godzooky) could play that savior part.

Agreed. Seeing how Minilla first appeared in the movie that kickstarted the change from reluctant hero to protector of humanity that Showa Godzilla underwent in the late 60s, I can definitely see this.

Also, I really wanna know how Godzooky is related to Godzilla.

[edgaguirus]

I wouldn't be outright opposed to a full hero Godzilla if one comes along, but I think that kind of thing, digging survivors out of the rubble or holding up collapsing bridges... that's best left for kaiju like Gamera or Mothra. Godzilla should always keep a little bit of a hard edge.

There's a scene in the HB Godzilla series where he props up a damaged bridge. That kind of thing works for the HB Godzilla, but a film Godzilla wouldn't go out of his way to save people like that.

[Desghidorah]

To those who'd say Godzilla must always have it out for humanity, I do need to bring to light the alternate continuities where he's not the direct result of human arrogance. '55 onwards Godzilla literally shows up out of nowhere (and before anyone says he got mutated/burned too, that was in supplementary material and I'm only looking to films) and has seemingly no bone to pick with humanity at first, only causing damage out of wandering, being drawn to cities, and collateral damage during his fight with Anguirus. Later films until Monster Zero more or less just had him as a grumpy, territorial jerk who'd not give regard to where he rampaged. The vengeful streak towards humanity due to being wronged is not universal, regardless of if the incarnation is a heroic, neutral, or villainous version. So if Godzilla has no particular reason to hate humanity in an incarnation and is a heroic figure in the film, I don't take issue with him consciously saving human life if he can. Nothing Superman levels, but Guardian of the Universe Gamera I think is a good measuring stick.



On a separate note, while I certainly find a hell of a lot more morality and thematic substance to films like the original Godzilla, 1984, Shin, Gamera 3, and the like; more often than not if I want something entertaining to watch as I work or listen too while cooking, I pick something like vs. Sea Monster, Vs. Jiger, Zigra, or Guiron, any of the Heisei Vs. Series, or Godzilla 2000. As a result I've seen them far more times recently than the classics and frankly, I have a ball with them.

Watching with commentary on especially and reading some of the behind the scenes information has really given me an appreciation for the Showa Gamera series. Without the cheesy dub, some of the scenes and implications in them can be downright dark (like a mother sobbing over the idea her child and husband drowned to death at the bottom of the ocean, trapped in a bathysphere).

[LSD Jellyfish]

Skullcrawlers are a solid design. I think they're more interesting than the majority of everything else the Monsterverse has introduced. The get largely overshadowed by the MUTOs, the KOTM re-designs, and the new KOTM monsters.

[Cryptid_Liker]

Skullcrawlers are a solid design. I think they're more interesting than the majority of everything else the Monsterverse has introduced. The get largely overshadowed by the MUTOs, the KOTM re-designs, and the new KOTM monsters.

Definitely more interesting than dinosaurs, for sure.

[Spuro]

Is it a confession to say that I kinda prefer the dinosaurs?

I don't know. To me, making a Kong movie without dinosaurs is like making a Godzilla movie without any building destruction. It just doesn't feel right.

[Gomi: Ninja Monster]

Is it a confession to say that I kinda prefer the dinosaurs?

I don't know. To me, making a Kong movie without dinosaurs is like making a Godzilla movie without any building destruction. It just doesn't feel right.

*Sidelong glance at King Kong 1976*

[Spuro]

Is it a confession to say that I kinda prefer the dinosaurs?

I don't know. To me, making a Kong movie without dinosaurs is like making a Godzilla movie without any building destruction. It just doesn't feel right.

*Sidelong glance at King Kong 1976*

There's a good reason I was never too fond of that one.

[Cryptid_Liker]

Is it a confession to say that I kinda prefer the dinosaurs?

I don't know. To me, making a Kong movie without dinosaurs is like making a Godzilla movie without any building destruction. It just doesn't feel right.

*Sidelong glance at King Kong 1976*

*Sidelong glance at the anime trilogy*

[MechaGoji Bro7503]

I don't mind King Kong without dinosaurs, likewise Godzilla doesn't have to destroy buildings in every film. These characters weren't made with such restrictions.

[Desghidorah]

I don't mind King Kong without dinosaurs, likewise Godzilla doesn't have to destroy buildings in every film. These characters weren't made with such restrictions.

This is true and Kong: Skull Island proved you can do even Skull Island without proper dinosaurs. But I feel the reason Kong 1976 didn't have any dinosaurs (Dino thought stop-motion looked stupid, chunk of the budget getting blown on the useless robot, etc.) are pretty dumb.

[MechaGoji Bro7503]

I don't mind King Kong without dinosaurs, likewise Godzilla doesn't have to destroy buildings in every film. These characters weren't made with such restrictions.

This is true and Kong: Skull Island proved you can do even Skull Island without proper dinosaurs. But I feel the reason Kong 1976 didn't have any dinosaurs (Dino thought stop-motion looked stupid, chunk of the budget getting blown on the useless robot, etc.) are pretty dumb.

Oh yeah, they def could've implemented dinosaurs or even other giant creatures if they wanted too. It's a shame we only got the snake, as much as I love KK76.

[LSD Jellyfish]

Is it a confession to say that I kinda prefer the dinosaurs?

I don't know. To me, making a Kong movie without dinosaurs is like making a Godzilla movie without any building destruction. It just doesn't feel right.

To be clear, I’m not comparing dinosaurs and King Kong, to skull crawlers. I’m just saying I think they’re some of the best original monsters created in recent years, but seem to go under appreciated. There’s a lot more fanfare and people talking about monsters that appeared for like 20 seconds in KOTM than Skullcrawlers, despite them having a role in Kong Skull island and possibly the upcoming films.

[Cryptid_Liker]

Dino thought stop-motion looked stupid

What was stopping him from using suitmation like they did with Kong? Along with what he said to Meryl Streep and the rapey version of Kong, this is a reason why I think RKO should've chosen The Legend of King Kong.

[Gomi: Ninja Monster]

Is it a confession to say that I kinda prefer the dinosaurs?

I don't know. To me, making a Kong movie without dinosaurs is like making a Godzilla movie without any building destruction. It just doesn't feel right.

To be clear, I’m not comparing dinosaurs and King Kong, to skull crawlers. I’m just saying I think they’re some of the best original monsters created in recent years, but seem to go under appreciated. There’s a lot more fanfare and people talking about monsters that appeared for like 20 seconds in KOTM than Skullcrawlers, despite them having a role in Kong Skull island and possibly the upcoming films.

Perhaps it's because they only got like 20 seconds of screentime? Enough to get a taste of the designs, but not enough to satisfy whereas we got a bunch of full, well-lit shots of the Skullcrawlers in action. Also maybe being in a Godzilla movie versus a Kong movie boosts the opinion of them somewhat, just by proximity?

Regardless yeah, Skullcrawlers are sick, glad they're returning in GvK. Love that they crafted an entire design that(however inadvertently) referenced the critter in the original '33 Kong.

[Gigantis]

I honestly never saw the Skulcrawlers as interesting. I think their design is nice but they're suppose to be this really disturbing, creepy creatures that might wipe humanity off the Earth if left unchecked, but they don't feel that way.

[SoggyNoodles2016]

Really?

I do. And I agree, the Skullcrawlers are fantastic monsters. They and the M.U.T.O.s are way better then any of the Brief Cameo Gang.

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Actually, while I'm abusing the merging post button, I think the reason those guys are so big was the same reason Boba Fett, Dengar, Bossk and the rest of the Empire Strikes Back bounty hunters did.

No one knows shit about them besides their cool looks and a few basic factoids/personality traits and now people are fleshing out their favorites and talking about them to the point its getting irksome.

Wonder if Behemoth is gonna get eaten by a Sarlacc too.....

[Noble Saber]

Any creature that continues the Dinosaur Revolution T. rex trend of the "Death's Heads" motif is cool with me. Designwise, Skullcrawlers are the best original monsters in the Monsterverse.

On that note, Kong's original creatures are usually top notch. Skull Island had the Skullcrawlers; Kong 05 had the V-rex; good stuff all around.