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ManuJM1997 wrote:Why, just WHY?
I guess for some fans...Ghidorah just shouldn't be a good guy...

The same way Blofeld shouldn't be an ally to James Bond or
Megatron shouldn't be an autobot.

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Why can't Megatron be an autobot?
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Grievous wrote:
ManuJM1997 wrote:Why, just WHY?
I guess for some fans...Ghidorah just shouldn't be a good guy...

The same way Blofeld shouldn't be an ally to James Bond or
Megatron shouldn't be an autobot.

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Ugh...
Taking into account that Godzilla went from a Horrifical Abomination that represented nuclear danger to...


I find it slightly hypocritical
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Kaiju-King42 wrote:Why can't Megatron be an autobot?
No.

I'm not doing this here.

I'm sorry...I just can't.

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Kaiju-King42 wrote:Why can't Megatron be an autobot?
Fine, then let all iconic villains be good guys.

I want good guy Joker
Good guy Thanos
Good guy Desotroyah

Get my point?

I mean take away the villain and the hero's sieze to exist

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goji89 wrote:
Kaiju-King42 wrote:Why can't Megatron be an autobot?
Fine, then let all iconic villains be good guys.

I want good guy Joker
Good guy Thanos
Good guy Desotroyah

Get my point?

I mean take away the villain and the hero's sieze to exist
Basically this...

Also for Megatron to be accepted as an Autobot is to seemingly
forgive him for all the crimes he committed for the Decepticon
ideology...and ideology in some cases he started.
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ManuJM1997 wrote:
Grievous wrote:
ManuJM1997 wrote:Why, just WHY?
I guess for some fans...Ghidorah just shouldn't be a good guy...

The same way Blofeld shouldn't be an ally to James Bond or
Megatron shouldn't be an autobot.

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Ugh...
Taking into account that Godzilla went from a Horrifical Abomination that represented nuclear danger to...


I find it slightly hypocritical
Right, why is Godzilla allowed that kind of flexibility, while other characters aren't?

It's not like these are permanent, definitive alterations. Why is it not okay to play with a character? To do the occasional "What if?" in an isolated story?
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eabaker wrote:Right, why is Godzilla allowed that kind of flexibility, while other characters aren't?
I guess because this flexibility was earned over the course of several films?

I mean I'm all for different versions of a character...BUT...when a character
is known as the "evil counterpart" to a heroic character...its kind of hard
for some people to accept a simple switch flip.
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eabaker wrote:
ManuJM1997 wrote:
Grievous wrote: I guess for some fans...Ghidorah just shouldn't be a good guy...

The same way Blofeld shouldn't be an ally to James Bond or
Megatron shouldn't be an autobot.

Image

Ugh...
Taking into account that Godzilla went from a Horrifical Abomination that represented nuclear danger to...


I find it slightly hypocritical
Right, why is Godzilla allowed that kind of flexibility, while other characters aren't?

It's not like these are permanent, definitive alterations. Why is it not okay to play with a character? To do the occasional "What if?" in an isolated story?
Change is a hard concept to grasp for many.

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I don't really care if Ghidorah's ever a good guy as long as Godzilla's the villain in that scenario, which he was in GMK.
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PitchBlackProgress wrote:...the whole film looks and feels like a made-for-TV movie, as does the entire Millennium series (with the exception of G2K)
Finally someone articulated what I have always felt about the majority of the Millenium entries! I couldn’t quite word how I felt towards those movies until now. I would say the same goes for some of the Hesei entries too. Many of them feel as if they are filmed in a studio and not a city or island or countryside.

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Dr. Professor wrote:I don't really care if Ghidorah's ever a good guy as long as Godzilla's the villain in that scenario, which he was in GMK.
Yeah, I know a lot of people take the stance that Ghidorah is defined primarly as Godzilla's opponent, so whichever side Goji is on, Ghidorah should be the opposite.
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Dr. Professor wrote:I don't really care if Ghidorah's ever a good guy as long as Godzilla's the villain in that scenario, which he was in GMK.
Your a villain. Why should you care? Thinking about coming over to the light.

I shall NEVER allow it you fiend.....not after everything you've done

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goji89 wrote:
Dr. Professor wrote:I don't really care if Ghidorah's ever a good guy as long as Godzilla's the villain in that scenario, which he was in GMK.
Your a villain. Why should you care? Thinking about coming over to the light.

I shall NEVER allow it you fiend.....not after everything you've done
goji, your God is saying that a Good Ghidorah isn't bad
Be a good follower and accept it (?(
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ManuJM1997 wrote:
goji89 wrote:
Dr. Professor wrote:I don't really care if Ghidorah's ever a good guy as long as Godzilla's the villain in that scenario, which he was in GMK.
Your a villain. Why should you care? Thinking about coming over to the light.

I shall NEVER allow it you fiend.....not after everything you've done
goji, your God is saying that a Good Ghidorah isn't bad
Be a good follower and accept it (?(
*gasp*.....For though are right. I have questioned him, I must repent for my sins.

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Grievous wrote: Basically this...

Also for Megatron to be accepted as an Autobot is to seemingly
forgive him for all the crimes he committed for the Decepticon
ideology...and ideology in some cases he started.


Why can't he be good again? :P
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goji89 wrote:
MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:
goji89 wrote:I hate the reporter in GMK
Yuri?
You know what goji89, you are a despicable, vile, evil, horrendous, terrible being because of this statement. You call Dr Professor your foe because he doesn't like vs Gigan, and then you come out with this???
To shame, to shame.
She acts like a spoiled brat.

And you wanna go bro..? Someone bring us the oil so we can wrestle this out.
When? She's just determined to succeed in her job and find out what's going on.

I'll bring the sacred banana oil.
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MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:
goji89 wrote:
MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote: Yuri?
You know what goji89, you are a despicable, vile, evil, horrendous, terrible being because of this statement. You call Dr Professor your foe because he doesn't like vs Gigan, and then you come out with this???
To shame, to shame.
She acts like a spoiled brat.

And you wanna go bro..? Someone bring us the oil so we can wrestle this out.
When? She's just determined to succeed in her job and find out what's going on.

I'll bring the sacred banana oil.
She is stubborn and doesnt listen, not even her father....

*Takes off shirt*
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Kaiju-King42 wrote:
Grievous wrote: Basically this...

Also for Megatron to be accepted as an Autobot is to seemingly
forgive him for all the crimes he committed for the Decepticon
ideology...and ideology in some cases he started.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc_BCR5yOJQ

Why can't he be good again? :P
I never said he couldn't...

I just think he shouldn't.
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Dr. Professor wrote:I don't really care if Ghidorah's ever a good guy as long as Godzilla's the villain in that scenario, which he was in GMK.
Easy there, tiger. You're talking about the logistics of storytelling and plot, not absolutes.
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