GuardianGhido wrote:I loved the interaction between Godzilla and Mothra in KotM! Mothra was such a great friend and ally in that movie, easily one of the best takes on her yet in my opinion!
Considering Mothra had such little screen time and essentially made the exact same sacrifice as Fire Rodan did in GvsMGII, I never considered her actions other than helping the lesser evil destroy a greater evil. I feel there is just as much projection here as the people you criticize.
Um, you quoted what I said instead of what GG said, and I don't remember criticizing anyone. I just really loved this version of Mothra.
Also calling MV Godzilla the lesser evil is kind of weird because he isn't evil. Pretty much the only actions he's taken is to go after kaiju threats. Plus it was implied that this version of Godzilla and Mothra (at least their species) has an ancient symbiotic relationship.Added in 4 minutes 12 seconds:
eabaker wrote:For those who really want Godzilla to have a mate, I'm curious what you see as the ultimate narrative and thematic goal? Like, what actual story potential do you see in this? How would it affect the drama?
There's lots of ways you can utilize a mate in fiction. Have either Godzilla or his mate be in danger so the other has to come to the rescue, have Godzilla start a family by showing an egg and later a son/daughter that needs protecting, have an ally to go into battle with against a big foe. There's plenty of options.Added in 8 minutes 5 seconds:
GuardianGhido wrote: Vakanai wrote:
GuardianGhido wrote:Mothra and Godzilla's interactions in the Monsterverse so far is a great example of what could be perceived as non-smutty Kaiju romance. Some people were like Barnes and found it messed up while others like me liked it a lot. You could take some cues from this if you really portray Godzilla with a potential mate. (even if they are possibly incapable of actually mating like Mothra).
I loved the interaction between Godzilla and Mothra in KotM! Mothra was such a great friend and ally in that movie, easily one of the best takes on her yet in my opinion! God, I hope we get another just like her in another Monsterverse film, or Toho takes notes from this one.
Finally a civil response to appreciation of Godzilla and Mothra's interactions instead of "GODZILLA X MOTHRA IS GROSS SO THEIR POSSIBLY PLATONIC INTERACTIONS ARE INHERENTLY POOP". They did a great thing with leaving their relationship vague while still keeping the tenderness in their interactions. For shippers like me, it really paints their relationship in a new light, for everyone else it provides a wonderful close friend or sibling relationship between two allies that protect the balance of the world together.
Thank you for having the thoughtfulness to interpret their relationship as friendship (and uh "allyship" for lack of a better word) instead of immediately dismissing it as gross.
In fact, even if you don't give Godzilla a mate, you could at least give him close friends, or other companions. It really fleshes Godzilla and his allies out and makes them stand out as actual characters instead of plot devices or mindless creatures. It might seem like personifying them too much, but personifying Godzilla is also necessary as he isn't just some insentient animal. He's not a straight up human but he has his own feelings, morals and sense of companionship and kinship.
To be fair, while I'm not a shipper, it's not like I'd be all that against Mothra x Godzilla either. I mean, there's been weirder things in this franchise. Besides, even if their relationship was of the more romantic variety it's not like the series is going to suddenly become kaiju porno. I just think it's weird that whenever something like this is brought up people's minds go to giant monster sex. It's just a weird gut reaction to something we will never see on screen. Most we'd ever see is just the two being near each other and helping each other out like in the movie. And I don't think people needed to wash their eyes out with what we saw on screen this time. I mean, mate, friends, allies, I just assume the more heroic Showa styled Goji should have other monsters on his side.