When man and kaiju work together

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When man and kaiju work together

Postby edgaguirus » Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:41 pm

Usually, man and monster don't work as a pair. One is trying to defend themselves as the other is smashing all in its path. However, we have had times when man and monster have worked together to stop a mutual threat. The obvious one is G vs Hedorah. Neither man nor Godzilla had the power to kill Hedorah, but their combined effort brought down the environmental disaster. Then we also have ToMG, where Titanosaurus's weakness allowed Godzilla to finish off his robot double.

You might also include IotaM, as the humans brought down the aliens, and then Godzilla and Rodan sent KG back into retreat.
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Re: When man and kaiju work together

Postby Living Corpse » Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:43 pm

I still say that Gmaera 2: Advent of Legion is the best kaiju-military team up.
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Re: When man and kaiju work together

Postby _JNavs_ » Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:47 pm

What would the end of Godzilla vs Destroyah be considered
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Re: When man and kaiju work together

Postby Living Corpse » Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:51 pm

_JNavs_ wrote:What would the end of Godzilla vs Destroyah be considered


Opportunist or saving their own asses. Their original plan was to let Destroyer kill Godzilla but they realized even if they stopped Godzilla's meltdown they'd be stuck with Destroyer who is like Godzilla before he mellowed out over the years i.e. stupidly aggressive.
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Re: When man and kaiju work together

Postby Grievous » Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:14 pm

Living Corpse wrote:I still say that Gamera 2: Advent of Legion is the best kaiju-military team up.

Hear Hear!

*Thinks*

Although...it is a shame Gamera 3 ended when it did.

I also have to admit even though I hate vs. SpaceGodzilla as a film...
the scenes of Godzilla & Moguera teaming up & laying the smack down
on LameZilla are pretty awesome.

Does that count?
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Re: When man and kaiju work together

Postby GodzillaFan1990's » Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:13 pm

Living Corpse wrote:I still say that Gmaera 2: Advent of Legion is the best kaiju-military team up.

This.
Grievous wrote:Although...it is a shame Gamera 3 ended when it did.

I disagree. I think it was a perfect way to a trilogy and letting the viewer decide what happens. Does Gamera win or not? Sometimes ambiguous endings are good.
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Re: When man and kaiju work together

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:18 pm

Don't forget Mothra and Kiryu's team up in SOS.

Looks like KotM will have a team up too, based on the first trailer's last shot.
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Re: When man and kaiju work together

Postby Grievous » Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:04 am

GodzillaFan1990's wrote:I disagree. I think it was a perfect way to a trilogy and letting the viewer decide what happens. Does Gamera win or not? Sometimes ambiguous endings are good.

I just meant in regards to seeing Gamera fight with the military against
the Gyaos Swarm.

The ending is fine...even if the film is IN MY OPINION highly overrated.

I understand why many, MANY kaiju fans love Gamera 3 & the film
looks amazing for its budget as well as having two of the greatest
kaiju fight scenes in history...but...

I will argue to the death that Gamera 2 is an overall more balanced
film with its science fiction/alien invasion plot giving it an edge over
the anime cliches of Gamera 3.
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Re: When man and kaiju work together

Postby GodzillaFan1990's » Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:13 am

Grievous wrote:I just meant in regards to seeing Gamera fight with the military against
the Gyaos Swarm.

The ending is fine...even if the film is IN MY OPINION highly overrated.

Ah okay.

IMO I like that they didn't show that due to reasons I stated but hey to each their own. ;)
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Re: When man and kaiju work together

Postby Tyrant_Lizard_King » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:00 am

Grievous wrote:I will argue to the death that Gamera 2 is an overall more balanced
film with its science fiction/alien invasion plot giving it an edge over
the anime cliches of Gamera 3.


I wholeheartedly agree. I mean I really like Gamera 3, what it does well it does magnificently. However Gamera 2 is just a more coherent and well structured film overall.
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Re: When man and kaiju work together

Postby Living Corpse » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:02 am

Tyrant_Lizard_King wrote:
Grievous wrote:I will argue to the death that Gamera 2 is an overall more balanced
film with its science fiction/alien invasion plot giving it an edge over
the anime cliches of Gamera 3.


I wholeheartedly agree. I mean I really like Gamera 3, what it does well it does magnificently. However Gamera 2 is just a more coherent and well structured film overall.


And more fun. That being said, Gamera 3 was a fine way to end a trilogy.
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Re: When man and kaiju work together

Postby Grievous » Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:45 pm

Tyrant_Lizard_King wrote:I wholeheartedly agree. I mean I really like Gamera 3, what it does well it does magnificently. However Gamera 2 is just a more coherent and well structured film overall.

Living Corpse wrote:And more fun.

Wow...& here I though people would be
lighting torches & grabbing pitchforks.

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Re: When man and kaiju work together

Postby Living Corpse » Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:58 pm

Grievous wrote:
Tyrant_Lizard_King wrote:I wholeheartedly agree. I mean I really like Gamera 3, what it does well it does magnificently. However Gamera 2 is just a more coherent and well structured film overall.

Living Corpse wrote:And more fun.

Wow...& here I though people would be
lighting torches & grabbing pitchforks.

:thumbsup:


Gamera 3 is a good movie, but it is overrated.
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Re: When man and kaiju work together

Postby Grievous » Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:04 pm

Living Corpse wrote:Gamera 3 is a good movie, but it is overrated.

We should be friends.

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Re: When man and kaiju work together

Postby Terasawa » Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:44 am

Requesting Mothra's help in Ghidrah lead to Godzilla and Rodan joining the defense of Earth against Ghidrah. (Similarly, in vs. Megalon Goro orders Jet Jaguar: "Get Godzilla! You'll find him on Monster Island.")

Godzilla and the other monsters continued fighting the Kilaaks even after the Monsterland control device was destroyed by the Fire Dragon.

Minya received some coaching from Ichiro on how to beat Gabara.

Gengo and friends destroying Godzilla Tower from the inside put an end to the Nebula aliens' control of Ghidorah and Gigan and gave Godzilla the time he needed to mount a counterattack.

Nanbara and Professor Miyajima used the latter's pipe to short the Mechagodzilla control device. (Geez this happened a lot in the later Showa Godzilla movies.)
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Re: When man and kaiju work together

Postby edgaguirus » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:11 pm

There's also WotG. During the fight, the masers fire on Gaira. It's possible this helped weaken Gaira and give Sanda a better chance at winning.
Kaiju are just like people- giant, radioactive people.

Megalon went into a bar and saw Gigan. Megalon said, " Again? I thought you gave this up."
" What can I say," Gigan asked. " I'm hooked."


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