Gojirawars 03 wrote:Neither of these guys are even in my top 5 most powerful Godzilla enemies. Destroyah felt like more of a genuine threat to Godzilla, but again, neither of them are that powerful. Once Godzilla found out that Hedorah's weakness was literally just electricity, he just pummeled him easily. It was honestly embarrassing to watch. Hedorah just gets massacred. Destroyah was tougher and killed Jr, so he has more feats to his name than Hedorah already. But he's made out of the Oxygen Destroyer, so I'd say he's pretty powerful offensively. However, he was easily taken out by military freezing weapons, so it's hard to really say he's that great durability-wise.
Godzilla's Top 5 Most Powerful Enemies:
1. Kaiser Ghidorah (Brought Godzilla to near death in the most one-sided fight in the series. Godzilla only wins because mutant Ex Machina.)
2. Super Mechagodzilla (Literally killed Godzilla, if only temporarily. Was able to withstand the most punishment of any of Godzilla's enemies, including tanking 6 Spiral Ray blasts before going down, after his heat shield had already melted.)
3. SpaceGodzilla (Super strong, tons of different powers and abilities, took a Moguera/Godzilla tag team to bring him down and Godzilla then wins because Spiral Ray Ex Machina.)
4. Showa Mechagodzilla (1974 could take down King Caesar and Godzilla with ease. Godzilla wins the first time because.. magnetism Ex Machina? WTF?)
5. Mothra (The only kaiju that has been able to defeat Godzilla in every battle they've had, except for GMK. Either in Imago or Larval Form.)
I really don't think Super MechaG deserves that spot; or at the very least, deserves 'killing Godzilla' as a feat. He just had a film Deus Ex Machina to do it. Like, a Mothra larva with a taser and the same intel on where to aim could've done the same thing; it was a sucker punch to a hidden weak-spot that needed Miki to enable it and relied on external intel that anyone could capitalize on. (I mean, he does have a fearsome arsenal, still; I just really don't think killing Godzilla 'counts' as a strength-feat owing to the nature of how it went down).
I think Hedorah deserves a bit more respect; Hedorah's mobility and speed and ability to regrow would've prevented Godzilla from doing anything without the human setup rig- and he did disolve Godzilla's hand. I think that, and his potential for unchecked growth, put him a but higher on the list. But otherwise, I'd agree with your ranking of power-levels.Added in 4 minutes 25 seconds:
Maritonic wrote:Final Wars is so over the place, but I do sometimes feel Kaiser is overlooked as a villain. I think this is because he's tacked on at the end and doesn't have a whole film build up.
Super Mechagodzilla, while the only opponent to literally kill Godzilla, did so through a macguffin and as such really doesn't count. If that secondary brain didn't randomly exist in that ONE movie, he wouldn't have killed him.
Spacegodzilla is strong in concept, but I remember him being pretty weak. Been a while since I've suffered that film though.
Mechagodzilla is stronger in the Showa years, but he's still not as threatening as Hedorah I'd say. (Ironic you mention your frustration of his defeat due to a deus ex machina when that's the only way Super MechaG won).
Mothra wins because the plot tells her to, not because she's more powerful. She's always the good guy in her films with Godzilla, who is typically the bad guy.
The thing I'd say for SpaceGodzilla- with his telekeinesis, he literally rendered Godzilla helpless- and he tanked 70+ hits (I counted).
He is definitely on the high end of the durability scale- and against a single opponent, he seems pretty dominating. He doesn't have as powerful an attack as Destroyah's horn katana or MechaGodzilla's rotating missiles, but he's more of an endurance, damage-over-time/outlasting opponent, just a juggernaut that keeps on coming and slowly, steadily racks up the damage on the opponent. (At least, that would be the case I'd make for him).
You make great points otherwise, particularly Mothra.
It's funny, though. Because a lot depends on your qualifier for strength. In durability, Super MechaG and SpaceGodzilla trump, for instance. In victories, Mothra is unrivaled- even though she often dies in the process. In offensive power, MechaGodzilla and Destroyah are heavy sudden-hitters, while SpaceGodzilla and Hedorah can rack it up in less instant-kill, but more corrosive and steady manners...
It really is dependent on one's criteria.