Which Godzilla film from a particular decade best represents that time?

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Which Godzilla film from a particular decade best represents that time?

Postby Godzillander » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:25 pm

Of all the Godzilla films released in a particular decade, which one do you think best sums up the cultural and political attitudes of that time, worldwide or in a particular nation? And which act as the best representation of Godzilla from that era. Not necessarily which is the best as a climb but which works best as a time capsule of that era?
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50's-Gojira: Fears of postwar Japan concerning Atomc warfare, took inspiration from American monster movies from the time and the imagery of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

60's-Invasion of the Astro-Monster: Space exploration, Alien invasion fears, tone and style are quintessential for the 60's Godzilla films.

70's-Godzilla vs. Hedorah: Ecological concerns as the driving focus of the plot, Godzilla as an unequivocal good guy, psychedelic trippy style, youth culture appears prominently.

80's-Return of Godzilla/Godzilla 1985: Cold War era tensions, established Heisei series as a return to a menacing Godzilla, American version' marketing and alterations exemplified the nations jingoism and consumerism at the time.

90's-Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah: Anti-American and Nationalistic undercurrents to the film, villification of Japan's growing capitalism introduced series trend of updating old monsters.

00's-Godzilla: Final Wars: Utilizes music and visual styles popular generally from the 2000's, encapsulates Millenium series' convoluted timeline and use of primarily updated monsters.

10's-Shin Godzilla: imagery reminiscent of Fukushima disasters, criticizes Japan-U.S. relations, much more grounded and realistic take on the premise as audiences come to expect that from major movies.
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Re: Which Godzilla film from a particular decade best represents that time?

Postby KillCrites » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:28 pm

You pretty much nailed it.
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Re: Which Godzilla film from a particular decade best represents that time?

Postby Godzillander » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:38 pm

KillCrites wrote:You pretty much nailed it.


Thanks!
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Postby Zarm » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:46 pm

I agree. Those would be my picks, too.
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Re: Which Godzilla film from a particular decade best represents that time?

Postby eabaker » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:51 pm

I'm not so sure about GFW for Millennium. Yes, it probably best represents the mainstream cinematic sensibilities of the time, but it isn't particularly representative of the style of most of the series from that period (that would have to go to one of the Tezuka films), and - unlike GMK - it doesn't have much to say about contemporary cultural issues (unless you look at it as a story about terrorism, I guess).
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Re: Which Godzilla film from a particular decade best represents that time?

Postby Godzillander » Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:01 pm

eabaker wrote:I'm not so sure about GFW for Millennium. Yes, it probably best represents the mainstream cinematic sensibilities of the time, but it isn't particularly representative of the style of most of the series from that period (that would have to go to one of the Tezuka films), and - unlike GMK - it doesn't have much to say about contemporary cultural issues (unless you look at it as a story about terrorism, I guess).


Yeah. I like FW and all but the the 00's movie was the one I had the hardest time choosing.
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Postby Kaeyas » Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:44 pm

Yeah I pretty much agree with all of those.
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Postby KaijuCanuck » Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:49 pm

The 00s category is definitely the hardest, I don't really feel those films deal with anything related to the culture and politics of the time - they really are just escapist entertainment. Gun to my head, maybe GMK? It doesn't say much about the world at large but there is a subtle critique of Japanese nationalism and WWII crime denials, which was beginning to re-emerge around that time.
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Re: Which Godzilla film from a particular decade best represents that time?

Postby Mecha-SpaceGhidorah » Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:32 am

KaijuCanuck wrote:Gun to my head, maybe GMK? It doesn't say much about the world at large but there is a subtle critique of Japanese nationalism and WWII crime denials, which was beginning to re-emerge around that time.

I don't that message really fits though. For me, it says more about not honoring the soldiers. I don't remember if it only ever specifies the dead Japanese soldiers only, but I did always get that vibe, like it were implied. If anything it reads less as a critique of nationalism and war crimes denials and more of (and I cannot stress the subtle part enough) subtle acceptance of those ideas.
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Re: Which Godzilla film from a particular decade best represents that time?

Postby KaijuCanuck » Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:46 am

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KaijuCanuck wrote:Gun to my head, maybe GMK? It doesn't say much about the world at large but there is a subtle critique of Japanese nationalism and WWII crime denials, which was beginning to re-emerge around that time.

I don't that message really fits though. For me, it says more about not honoring the soldiers. I don't remember if it only ever specifies the dead Japanese soldiers only, but I did always get that vibe, like it were implied. If anything it reads less as a critique of nationalism and war crimes denials and more of (and I cannot stress the subtle part enough) subtle acceptance of those ideas.


Isn’t there a line from the old man specifying that Godzilla is possessed both by the dead soldiers, AND Japan’s victims of the pacific war?
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Postby Mecha-SpaceGhidorah » Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:18 am

I thought it was just the soldiers, but I admit that I don't remember for certain.
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Postby Zarm » Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:21 am

The inaccurate translations don't help.
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Re: Which Godzilla film from a particular decade best represents that time?

Postby Grievous » Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:31 pm

I think Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla was a great representation of the 70's...
but then...I maybe just saying that because its one of my all time favorites.
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Re: Which Godzilla film from a particular decade best represents that time?

Postby Godzillander » Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:24 am

Grievous wrote:I think Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla was a great representation of the 70's...
but then...I maybe just saying that because its one of my all time favorites.


It's arguably the best 70's movie in The series, but I was thinking more of the 70's as a whole
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Postby Grievous » Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:29 am

Godzillander wrote:It's arguably the best 70's movie in The series, but I was thinking more of the 70's as a whole

Well...that's hard for me to comment on as I wasn't alive back then.
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Re: Which Godzilla film from a particular decade best represents that time?

Postby Gojira18 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:57 am

Godzillander wrote:
Grievous wrote:I think Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla was a great representation of the 70's...
but then...I maybe just saying that because its one of my all time favorites.


It's arguably the best 70's movie in The series, but I was thinking more of the 70's as a whole

Agreed. But only because I think it's one of only 2 GOOD 70's Godzilla films, the second one being Terror of Mechagodzilla.

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Re: Which Godzilla film from a particular decade best represents that time?

Postby Maritonic » Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:59 am

Gojira18 wrote:
Godzillander wrote:
Grievous wrote:I think Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla was a great representation of the 70's...
but then...I maybe just saying that because its one of my all time favorites.


It's arguably the best 70's movie in The series, but I was thinking more of the 70's as a whole

Agreed. But only because I think it's one of only 2 GOOD 70's Godzilla films, the second one being Terror of Mechagodzilla.


Godzilla vs. Hedorah would like a word...

so would Godzilla vs. Gigan...
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Postby Grievous » Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:05 am

Honestly...I like all of the 70's films...they have a certain charm & energy
to them that the other eras lack. Sure the budgets were slashed & the use
of stock footage can be annoying in places...but I just enjoy them because
of how fun & campy they are.

I guess I just really like "Heroic Godzilla" defending the Earth from alien invaders
with his "tag team partners" Anguirus, Jet Jaguar & King Caesar

Godzilla be all like "This is my yard...get out or I break your face!"
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Re: Which Godzilla film from a particular decade best represents that time?

Postby Gojira18 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:26 am

Maritonic wrote:
Gojira18 wrote:
Godzillander wrote:
It's arguably the best 70's movie in The series, but I was thinking more of the 70's as a whole

Agreed. But only because I think it's one of only 2 GOOD 70's Godzilla films, the second one being Terror of Mechagodzilla.


Godzilla vs. Hedorah would like a word...

so would Godzilla vs. Gigan...

Hedorah was too weird for me and I can't get past the obvious stock footage in Gigan. I get they had a tight budget, but come on, man!

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Re: Which Godzilla film from a particular decade best represents that time?

Postby Maritonic » Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:28 am

Gojira18 wrote:
Maritonic wrote:
Gojira18 wrote:Agreed. But only because I think it's one of only 2 GOOD 70's Godzilla films, the second one being Terror of Mechagodzilla.


Godzilla vs. Hedorah would like a word...

so would Godzilla vs. Gigan...

Hedorah was too weird for me and I can't get past the obvious stock footage in Gigan. I get they had a tight budget, but come on, man!


Hedorah was too out there for me for a long time until I realized just how damn dark it is and how truly 70's it is. It's one of a kind.

Gigan, yeah the stock footage sucks. No doubts there. The movie is just so much damn fun, Gigan is awesome, and the characters and plot are enjoyable. But hey yeah everyone's got different opinions.
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