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Re: Worst human character in a Kaiju film, Godzilla or otherwise.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:00 am
by Zarm
I agree completely. Not exactly my favorite film, but even within it- that guy is pretty creepy.

Re: Worst human character in a Kaiju film, Godzilla or otherwise.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:02 am
by Maritonic
Zarm wrote:I agree completely. Not exactly my favorite film, but even within it- that guy is pretty creepy.


Even the other characters see it, too. Which always bothered me.

I always felt her character was a failed attempt at what later would be done successfully with Akane's character.

Re: Worst human character in a Kaiju film, Godzilla or otherwise.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:06 am
by Grievous
Maritonic wrote:I could absolutely see him making a body pillow.

And as we all know...buying a body pillow & making one are completely different.

I happily paid for my Becky Lynch body pillow.

What?

What are you all looking at?!

Re: Worst human character in a Kaiju film, Godzilla or otherwise.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:16 am
by Zarm
Maritonic wrote:
Zarm wrote:I agree completely. Not exactly my favorite film, but even within it- that guy is pretty creepy.


Even the other characters see it, too. Which always bothered me.

I always felt her character was a failed attempt at what later would be done successfully with Akane's character.


Oh, definitely. Godzilla Against MechaGodzilla is quite literally Godzilla vs. Megaguirus 2.0. I like to think of Megaguirus as a test-bed for the concept... and Against MechaGodzilla as taking what they learned, and executing the concept correctly. (But then, I know other people do not see Against MechaGodzilla as as much of a success as I do).

Re: Worst human character in a Kaiju film, Godzilla or otherwise.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:18 am
by Maritonic
Zarm wrote:
Maritonic wrote:
Zarm wrote:I agree completely. Not exactly my favorite film, but even within it- that guy is pretty creepy.


Even the other characters see it, too. Which always bothered me.

I always felt her character was a failed attempt at what later would be done successfully with Akane's character.


Oh, definitely. Godzilla Against MechaGodzilla is quite literally Godzilla vs. Megaguirus 2.0. I like to think of Megaguirus as a test-bed for the concept... and Against MechaGodzilla as taking what they learned, and executing the concept correctly. (But then, I know other people do not see Against MechaGodzilla as as much of a success as I do).


Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla is far superior to Megaguirus, no doubt there.

...Honestly, I was going to type a lot here but, I realized I enjoy Against Mechagodzilla quite a bit. SOS is where it falls flat on it's face. Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla is fine.

Re: Worst human character in a Kaiju film, Godzilla or otherwise.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:23 am
by Grievous
Maritonic wrote:would be done successfully with Akane's character.

What character?

She doesn't have any character.

She's an incredibly beautiful but boring blank slate.

I mean sure she's stunning to look at...but she's so boring...
and then instead of actually developing her in Tokyo S.O.S
she was written out of it.

Ugh...

Image
HA!

Re: Worst human character in a Kaiju film, Godzilla or otherwise.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:24 am
by Maritonic
Zarm, I'll let you take this one. I haven't had my tacos yet.

Re: Worst human character in a Kaiju film, Godzilla or otherwise.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:28 am
by Zarm
Eh, I only got, like, five hours of sleep. So, uh...

"She does TOO!" :)

Re: Worst human character in a Kaiju film, Godzilla or otherwise.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:32 am
by Grievous
Hey...its no big deal...

Image

No really...she's actually a great character.

I take it all back.

Re: Worst human character in a Kaiju film, Godzilla or otherwise.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:53 am
by eabaker
Grievous wrote:
Maritonic wrote:would be done successfully with Akane's character.

What character?


I'm with Grievous on this one. Frankly, not one of Tezuka's entries in the series offers a single character I feel remotely invested in. That's probably part of why Megaguirus is my least-un-favorite of the three; at least it clearly knows it's a dumb, shallow movie, so it just has fun with it. The Kiryu flicks have nothing more to offer dramatically, and yet they take themselves so seriously!

Re: Worst human character in a Kaiju film, Godzilla or otherwise.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:32 pm
by MechaGoji Bro7503
Grievous wrote:Hey...its no big deal...
]

No really...she's actually a great character.

I take it all back.

Ah, I see you're man of fine taste?

Spoiler:
psych I ain't got no lady pics to show.

Re: Worst human character in a Kaiju film, Godzilla or otherwise.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:33 pm
by Maritonic
MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:
Grievous wrote:Hey...its no big deal...
]

No really...she's actually a great character.

I take it all back.

Ah, I see you're man of fine taste?

Spoiler:
psych I ain't got no lady pics to show.


Deceiver! Witch! I CAST YOU OUT! UNCLEAN SPIRIT!

Re: Worst human character in a Kaiju film, Godzilla or otherwise.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:38 pm
by MechaGoji Bro7503
Maritonic wrote:
MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:Ah, I see you're man of fine taste?

Spoiler:
psych I ain't got no lady pics to show.


Deceiver! Witch! I CAST YOU OUT! UNCLEAN SPIRIT!

Welp......guess I'll go to another cult fandom.

Re: Worst human character in a Kaiju film, Godzilla or otherwise.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:46 pm
by Maritonic
MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:
Maritonic wrote:
MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:Ah, I see you're man of fine taste?

Spoiler:
psych I ain't got no lady pics to show.


Deceiver! Witch! I CAST YOU OUT! UNCLEAN SPIRIT!

Welp......guess I'll go to another cult fandom.


I jest. Don't leave, friend. :)

Re: Worst human character in a Kaiju film, Godzilla or otherwise.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:00 pm
by MechaGoji Bro7503
Maritonic wrote:
MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:
Maritonic wrote:
Deceiver! Witch! I CAST YOU OUT! UNCLEAN SPIRIT!

Welp......guess I'll go to another cult fandom.


I jest. Don't leave, friend. :)

Well yeah, I'm never leaving. I twas joking around too.

gimmie my Oscar

Re: Worst human character in a Kaiju film, Godzilla or otherwise.

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:02 am
by kamilleblu
eabaker wrote:Frankly, not one of Tezuka's entries in the series offers a single character I feel remotely invested in. That's probably part of why Megaguirus is my least-un-favorite of the three; at least it clearly knows it's a dumb, shallow movie, so it just has fun with it. The Kiryu flicks have nothing more to offer dramatically, and yet they take themselves so seriously!

Although Tezuka's films have plenty of problems, I'll take his efforts in the Kiryu Duology over the human drama in any of Okawara's Heisei films. But they're both letdown by writer Wataru Mimura.

Re: Worst human character in a Kaiju film, Godzilla or otherwise.

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:05 pm
by Terasawa
Mimura is a bad screenwriter but the only Tezuka film he’s solely responsible for is GXMG. He didn’t work on SOS and he collaborated with Hiroshi Kashiwabara (Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla) on G2K and GXM.

Re: Worst human character in a Kaiju film, Godzilla or otherwise.

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:40 pm
by Gojira18
Honestly, it's a toss up between Ford and Haruo for me. My complaints are your complaints. Haruo is obnoxious as hell, while Ford is boring as hell.

Re: Worst human character in a Kaiju film, Godzilla or otherwise.

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:59 pm
by kamilleblu
Terasawa wrote:Mimura is a bad screenwriter but the only Tezuka film he’s solely responsible for is GXMG.

I know. But Godzilla Against MechaGodzilla seems to be the most popular of his trilogy and has the fan favorite Akane, so I assumed that most people think of when it comes to him. It was also his most successful film.

Re: Worst human character in a Kaiju film, Godzilla or otherwise.

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:41 pm
by Grievous
kamilleblu wrote:and has the fan favorite Akane

But...I don't think that was for the way she was written...
which to me seemed flat & boring. I like my female characters
to have strength & energy...I want them to be kick (& show)
ass!

Hence the attraction to female wrestlers I guess.

Can we get Asuka from the WWE to be the female lead in
the next live action Japanese Godzilla film?