Because what G-Force does to kill him wasn't effected by Godzilla's attack. They go for his wings, freeze his wings, and he falls and just...dies. They don't exploit the damage caused by Godzilla. If they did, we'd talk. But they don't.GodzillaFan1990's wrote:Why do you guys still ignore after taking multiple hits from empowered red spiral rays? I guarantee if it wasn't for those the G-Force wouldn't had been able to finish him off.Maritonic wrote:G-Force effectively killed Destroyah so I don't think he's really the "toughest"...
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But the fact Destoroyah survived multiple hits from empowered red spiral rays from arguably one of the most powerful Godzilla incarnations really says a lot.Maritonic wrote:Because what G-Force does to kill him wasn't effected by Godzilla's attack. They go for his wings, freeze his wings, and he falls and just...dies. They don't exploit the damage caused by Godzilla. If they did, we'd talk. But they don't.
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No it doesn't. He got part of his neck blasted off. Cool. The fact remains he was killed by the military, not Godzilla. If Godzilla grabbed the guy by the throat and blew open a new hole in his head then cool. But he didn't.GodzillaFan1990's wrote:But the fact Destoroyah survived multiple hits from empowered red spiral rays from arguably one of the most powerful Godzilla incarnations really says a lot.Maritonic wrote:Because what G-Force does to kill him wasn't effected by Godzilla's attack. They go for his wings, freeze his wings, and he falls and just...dies. They don't exploit the damage caused by Godzilla. If they did, we'd talk. But they don't.
This is because of Destroyah's storytelling. People like to hype up Destroyah as a concept, but not take into account what happens on screen.
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Maritonic wrote:No it doesn't. He got part of his neck blasted off. Cool. The fact remains he was killed by the military, not Godzilla. If Godzilla grabbed the guy by the throat and blew open a new hole in his head then cool. But he didn't.GodzillaFan1990's wrote:But the fact Destoroyah survived multiple hits from empowered red spiral rays from arguably one of the most powerful Godzilla incarnations really says a lot.Maritonic wrote:Because what G-Force does to kill him wasn't effected by Godzilla's attack. They go for his wings, freeze his wings, and he falls and just...dies. They don't exploit the damage caused by Godzilla. If they did, we'd talk. But they don't.
This is because of Destroyah's storytelling. People like to hype up Destroyah as a concept, but not take into account what happens on screen.
But wasn't he simply too badly wounded, if not mortally wounded, at that point anyway? Even thought the military dealt the final blow, I find it hard to believe that Des wasn't suffering from internal injuries from all those supercharged spiral rays. Add in how many of his aggregates were killed by Burning Godzilla, and he was doomed to die anyway.
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That's not something expressed on screen. And what "all those" rays do you two keep referring to? Unless I'm remembering incorrectly he took two. One to the face, one to the chest. Granted it's definitely been a while so I could absolutely be mistaken.Rhedosaurus wrote:Maritonic wrote:No it doesn't. He got part of his neck blasted off. Cool. The fact remains he was killed by the military, not Godzilla. If Godzilla grabbed the guy by the throat and blew open a new hole in his head then cool. But he didn't.GodzillaFan1990's wrote: But the fact Destoroyah survived multiple hits from empowered red spiral rays from arguably one of the most powerful Godzilla incarnations really says a lot.
This is because of Destroyah's storytelling. People like to hype up Destroyah as a concept, but not take into account what happens on screen.
But wasn't he simply too badly wounded, if not mortally wounded, at that point anyway? Even thought the military dealt the final blow, I find it hard to believe that Des wasn't suffering from internal injuries from all those supercharged spiral rays. Add in how many of his aggregates were killed by Burning Godzilla, and he was doomed to die anyway.
There's no established rules with Destroyah or how he works with the aggregates. This is, again, a problem with the films storytelling. In Spacegodzilla we knew his crystals were powering him, we knew the tower was channeling his power. Godzilla blasting all of that weakening him was something we could comprehend and see for ourselves.
Internal damage or number of aggregates is assumption.
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Maritonic wrote:That's not something expressed on screen. And what "all those" rays do you two keep referring to? Unless I'm remembering incorrectly he took two. One to the face, one to the chest. Granted it's definitely been a while so I could absolutely be mistaken.Rhedosaurus wrote:Maritonic wrote:
No it doesn't. He got part of his neck blasted off. Cool. The fact remains he was killed by the military, not Godzilla. If Godzilla grabbed the guy by the throat and blew open a new hole in his head then cool. But he didn't.
This is because of Destroyah's storytelling. People like to hype up Destroyah as a concept, but not take into account what happens on screen.
But wasn't he simply too badly wounded, if not mortally wounded, at that point anyway? Even thought the military dealt the final blow, I find it hard to believe that Des wasn't suffering from internal injuries from all those supercharged spiral rays. Add in how many of his aggregates were killed by Burning Godzilla, and he was doomed to die anyway.
There's no established rules with Destroyah or how he works with the aggregates. This is, again, a problem with the films storytelling. In Spacegodzilla we knew his crystals were powering him, we knew the tower was channeling his power. Godzilla blasting all of that weakening him was something we could comprehend and see for ourselves.
Internal damage or number of aggregates is assumption.
I'm talking about all the amount of rays he took in totality. I'm simply going by what common sense dictates, even though I do admit that applying it to Godzilla movies is a bit...tricky.
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Sure. But what I'm getting at is Destroyah is given no established rules in the film. That's why I brought up the Spacegodzilla comparison. The idea that he was just too injured isn't expressed on screen in any way; they don't show him limping away, or flying away in fear/pain like Ghidorah does in '91 after his head is blown off. Destroyah just kinda...floats up. They freeze his wings. He falls. Poof.Rhedosaurus wrote:Maritonic wrote:That's not something expressed on screen. And what "all those" rays do you two keep referring to? Unless I'm remembering incorrectly he took two. One to the face, one to the chest. Granted it's definitely been a while so I could absolutely be mistaken.Rhedosaurus wrote:
But wasn't he simply too badly wounded, if not mortally wounded, at that point anyway? Even thought the military dealt the final blow, I find it hard to believe that Des wasn't suffering from internal injuries from all those supercharged spiral rays. Add in how many of his aggregates were killed by Burning Godzilla, and he was doomed to die anyway.
There's no established rules with Destroyah or how he works with the aggregates. This is, again, a problem with the films storytelling. In Spacegodzilla we knew his crystals were powering him, we knew the tower was channeling his power. Godzilla blasting all of that weakening him was something we could comprehend and see for ourselves.
Internal damage or number of aggregates is assumption.
I'm talking about all the amount of rays he took in totality. I'm simply going by what common sense dictates, even though I do admit that applying it to Godzilla movies is a bit...tricky.
While I'll definitely agree it's a logical deduction he had some internal damage (he does spit blood), it's not what ultimately ends his life. Or what even leads to his life ending.
At the end of the day, Destroyah is a terrifying powerful CONCEPT. He's just not executed as such in the film.
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Top 10 Strongest Godzilla Foes:
#1: Hedorah (Showa) - Virtually invincible, always growing more powerful and armed with a deadly arsenal of special abilities.
#2: Super Mechagodzilla - Armed to the teeth and specially designed to take Godzilla down. Came closer to killing him than anyone else.
#3: Space Godzilla - Outfitted with many special powers, including psychic abilities, that made him unbeatable for Godzilla without Moguera's assistance.
#4: King Ghidorah (Showa) - Very large and very powerful, always required multiple opponents to be defeated.
#5: Destoroyah - Comparable to Hedorah in its lifestyle and certainly very deadly. Doesn't tank higher because it's more physically vulnerable than most big bads.
#6: Mechagodzilla (Showa) - Able to fire missiles from every part of its body and composed of nigh indestructible space titanium.
#7: Keizer Ghidorah - Biggest Godzilla foe ever, and clearly very powerful with its irksome gravity beams. Seems more vulnerable than the Showa Ghidorah though.
#8: Biollante - Massive and equipped with superior regeneration abilities to Godzilla. Slow and susceptible to strong attacks, however.
#9: Orga - Like Biollante, possessed superior regeneration abilities coupled with fast-working cloning abilities. Didn't seem very resilient to attacks, however.
#10: Kiryu - Not quite as tough as the other Mechagodzillas, but still equipped with many strong anti-Godzilla weapons like the Absolute Zero Cannon.
#1: Hedorah (Showa) - Virtually invincible, always growing more powerful and armed with a deadly arsenal of special abilities.
#2: Super Mechagodzilla - Armed to the teeth and specially designed to take Godzilla down. Came closer to killing him than anyone else.
#3: Space Godzilla - Outfitted with many special powers, including psychic abilities, that made him unbeatable for Godzilla without Moguera's assistance.
#4: King Ghidorah (Showa) - Very large and very powerful, always required multiple opponents to be defeated.
#5: Destoroyah - Comparable to Hedorah in its lifestyle and certainly very deadly. Doesn't tank higher because it's more physically vulnerable than most big bads.
#6: Mechagodzilla (Showa) - Able to fire missiles from every part of its body and composed of nigh indestructible space titanium.
#7: Keizer Ghidorah - Biggest Godzilla foe ever, and clearly very powerful with its irksome gravity beams. Seems more vulnerable than the Showa Ghidorah though.
#8: Biollante - Massive and equipped with superior regeneration abilities to Godzilla. Slow and susceptible to strong attacks, however.
#9: Orga - Like Biollante, possessed superior regeneration abilities coupled with fast-working cloning abilities. Didn't seem very resilient to attacks, however.
#10: Kiryu - Not quite as tough as the other Mechagodzillas, but still equipped with many strong anti-Godzilla weapons like the Absolute Zero Cannon.
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Fucking brutal, but sadly true.Orichalcum wrote: • MonsterVerse- boxoffice returns
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