Why have Godzilla movies just been kinda bad from 1955 - 2004 Discussion

[Radioactive Lizard]

I wanted to start a discussion of why most Godzilla movies have been bad 1955-2004. Also why they got better later on.

[Zarm]

So, why do you feel that all but the last 4 have been bad?

[KillCrites]

Wow that's a very unpopular opinion. I don't think you'll find many people here that agree with you.

[JAGzilla]

*grabs popcorn* This'll be a fun thread.

But I, too, am interested in hearing your reasoning for this. I don't entirely disagree with you, as a fair chunk of those movies really aren't good for much more than dumb fun, but there are certainly several good ones sprinkled throughout. The reverse is also true, with some post-2004 movies being less than stellar, or at least frustrating mixed bags.


And, because somebody has to say it: "Good is a point of view, Anakin." -Darth Sidious

[Tyrant_Lizard_King]

The entire Millennium era was mostly comprised of frustrating mixed bags. Hell most films since arguably Godzilla vs King Ghidorah have largely been either mediocre or forgettable. There's a few gems here and there of course but they're few and far between. Even fondly remembered films like Destroyah and GMK are full of wasted potential.

[eabaker]

The entire Millennium era was mostly comprised of frustrating mixed bags. Hell most films since arguably Godzilla vs King Ghidorah have largely been either mediocre or forgettable. There's a few gems here and there of course but they're few and far between. Even fondly remembered films like Destroyah and GMK are full of wasted potential.

I mean, the Godzilla series is subject to Sturgeon's revelation, just like everything else.

Actually, I'd say this series beats the odds pretty spectacularly in that regard, in that nowhere near 90% of them are crap.

[KaijuCanuck]

Yeah, most Godzilla movies are great. Even the ones that suck are great. The title of this topic presupposes an opinion that I just really don't believe is widespread.

[eabaker]

Yeah, most Godzilla movies are great. Even the ones that suck are great. The title of this topic presupposes an opinion that I just really don't believe is widespread.

Yeah, flawed premise makes for pointless thread.

I mean, we could all sit here and defend why X and Y are great movies, but X and Y have their own dedicated threads where their strengths and weaknesses have been debated plenty.

[tbeasley]

I mean, the Godzilla series is subject to Sturgeon's revelation, just like everything else.

Actually, I'd say this series beats the odds pretty spectacularly in that regard, in that nowhere near 90% of them are crap.

I prefer del Toro's law - 10% of everything is great. Even in the Godzilla films I don't like as much I can still find something to appreciate or think about.

[Dr. Professor]

So... are you a Godzilla fan? Cause you sound more like a member of the western general audience who hasn't seen most Godzilla films outside of the original and the new ones, who just assumes the rest are bad because of the stigma that plagues this franchise. I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm just genuinely confused about why you have a TK account if you think most of the films are bad.

[KaijuCanuck]

If everyone thought the films from 1955-2004 were kinda bad, then there wouldn't be a Godzilla fandom. You can't really have a fandom for one film, you can only have like a cult following. The forum on which you can post this topic would not exist.

[Jeff-Goldblum1]

Mothra Vs Godzilla had potential, but they undermined it at the end when Godzilla got defeated by two caterpillars.

[KaijuCanuck]

Mothra Vs Godzilla had potential, but they undermined it at the end when Godzilla got defeated by two caterpillars.

You really have a problem with that ending, don't you?

[UltramanGoji]

Reminder that if you still complain about the ending of MVG, you are either a young child or a sad adult.

Sixty fucking years. Get the absolute holy fuck over it you pissing crybabies.

[Dr. Professor]

Reminder that if you still complain about the ending of MVG, you are either a young child or a sad adult.

Sixty fucking years. Get the absolute holy fuck over it you pissing crybabies.

GET 'EM, ULTRAMANGOJI!

[Radioactive Lizard]

Im gonna say this as I didn't address but I don't think all the movies were bad, but the majority in my eyes were really bad like Final Wars or Son of godzilla. Cliche, dumb, and not well written unlike today where we have been doing better with Godzilla films like Toho which did a very good job with POTM and COE anime films. Also Shin Godzilla and Godzilla 2014. its just that this age seems more promising to good Godzilla movies.

[Ivo-goji]

Because you have bad taste in movies.

[Jeff-Goldblum1]

Im gonna say this as I didn't address but I don't think all the movies were bad, but the majority in my eyes were really bad like Final Wars or Son of godzilla. Cliche, dumb, and not well written unlike today where we have been doing better with Godzilla films like Toho which did a very good job with POTM and COE anime films. Also Shin Godzilla and Godzilla 2014. its just that this age seems more promising to good Godzilla movies.

I've seen a lot of audiences hate the new films G14 and Shin Godzilla. They constantly complain about the screen time for Godzilla in both of those movies.

Yet the critics generally liked them.

I've noticed that franchises from Godzilla to Star Wars seem to be handing over the reigns to directors for their auteur visions.

Which goes down well with film critics who look for the director's voice in a film amongst other things, but sometimes doesn't wash well with the larger audience.

[JAGzilla]

Screentime was just one of LPG's problems. There were much worse ones.

For context, Radioactive, which pre-2004 movies do you consider good?

[Jeff-Goldblum1]

Screentime was just one of LPG's problems. There were much worse ones.

For context, Radioactive, which pre-2004 movies do you consider good?

I personally like Godzilla 2014.