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Re: Mandela Effect in Godzilla

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:44 pm
by LSD Jellyfish
I think a lot of the confusion of Mechagodzilla and Angurius actually has to do with the similarities with other scenes involving Angurius and Godzilla throughout the showa series.

The fight with Mechagodzilla, disguised as Godzilla, isn’t that far off from how the fight goes in Godzilla raids again. Godzilla/FakeGodzilla, curbstomps Angurius, ending with Angurius having his jaw torn/broken. Considering many people assumed that this scene took place at night, the reason may be they’re mixing up in their minds those two fights, because GRA was in black and white.

To add to this, the movie prior, Godzilla vs Gigan, features a brief scene where Angurius goes on land, only to have a brief skirmish with the JDSF. Bear in mind the suits are the same I think, so that might be another mixing of memories. Basically the overuse of Anguruius, in similar situations, is probably leading to all these weird beliefs involving GVMG. It’s also worth noting, IIRC, the following scene after the Anguruius scene, is Godzilla confronting the fake Godzilla at night. So there’s that too. Basically, scenes from GRA, GVG and GVMG all sort of blend together.

Re: Mandela Effect in Godzilla

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:10 am
by Maritonic
LSD Jellyfish wrote:I think a lot of the confusion of Mechagodzilla and Angurius actually has to do with the similarities with other scenes involving Angurius and Godzilla throughout the showa series.

The fight with Mechagodzilla, disguised as Godzilla, isn’t that far off from how the fight goes in Godzilla raids again. Godzilla/FakeGodzilla, curbstomps Angurius, ending with Angurius having his jaw torn/broken. Considering many people assumed that this scene took place at night, the reason may be they’re mixing up in their minds those two fights, because GRA was in black and white.

To add to this, the movie prior, Godzilla vs Gigan, features a brief scene where Angurius goes on land, only to have a brief skirmish with the JDSF. Bear in mind the suits are the same I think, so that might be another mixing of memories. Basically the overuse of Anguruius, in similar situations, is probably leading to all these weird beliefs involving GVMG. It’s also worth noting, IIRC, the following scene after the Anguruius scene, is Godzilla confronting the fake Godzilla at night. So there’s that too. Basically, scenes from GRA, GVG and GVMG all sort of blend together.


Don't disagree with this, but wouldn't rewatching the films clear us of these memories to some extent?

Though, I guess not. I still have a very distinct memory of a scene from the film Orca that just never happens, evidently, and yet it had a MAJOR impact on me when I saw it on TV so. Who knows.

Re: Mandela Effect in Godzilla

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:39 am
by Zarm
Yeah, and for my part, pretty sure I had this impression before I saw GRA, so I don't know that that could've given the 'snowy mountain environment' mixup to me.

A ton of people 'saw' the original Star Wars deleted scenes in theaters (I also had one of my friends experience the same thing with Phantom Menace), based on nothing more than descriptions, or sometimes a still image or two. So I suspect that this kind of effect doesn't actually require a visual to conflate- just an impression, an idea.

Re: Mandela Effect in Godzilla

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:51 am
by JAGzilla
I saw GvMG well before any of those other movies, though. You could possibly be right, but I don't know.

Re: Mandela Effect in Godzilla

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:06 am
by Terasawa
Video and possibly later broadcast versions of Godzilla vs. the Cosmic Monster were usually so dark that even the daytime battle between Angweerus and Fake Godzilla looks like it takes place at nighttime. Consider too that any video or broadcast version prior to 2002 was so tightly cropped that you can't really make out where the monsters are fighting; when you finally see the full anamorphic frame, such as on DVD or in the later SciFi Channel broadcasts, you can tell that the location is a mostly flat sound stage. It makes sense that younger viewers in the '80s and '90s would have imagined the battle took place on a mountainside since Fake Godzilla had just been seen on Mt. Fuji (and we get an establishing shot of the mountain not long before that) while Anguirus had been poking around on some dark hilly location earlier in the film.

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I don't believe there's any bootleg or official release of this movie that was ever in circulation that featured an alternate version of that sequence. The only video version that's significantly edited is GoodTimes' 1993 Cosmic Monster cassette: their transfer is ten or more minutes shorter than the already edited U.S. version. And before anyone asks, I checked my copy of the GT tape and the battle is just as it was in every other version of the movie.

Re: Mandela Effect in Godzilla

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:04 pm
by NSZ
My mind did an interesting revision to Godzilla's Revenge when I was a youngster. So the stock footage of Godzilla wrecking the Kamacuras, I remembered as being something completely different. Instead of Godzilla, it was this completely non-existent monster that looked like a mix between Gorosaurus & Yongary, and instead of the three Kamacuras, it was two Mothra-like monsters. The fight mostly played out the same, only with a bit more fire breath. And I know this was Godzilla's Revenge that I was misremembering, because I do recall Ichiro watching the fight.

To this day, I'm still a wee bit bummed that that's not what happened in the film. :lol:

Re: Mandela Effect in Godzilla

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:12 pm
by miguelnuva
For a while I thought King Ghidorah wouldn't let Godzilla surface in Godzilla vs Gigan and Godzilla had to dive underwater and resurface down the coast to start fighting. Also thought Rodan and Angurius fought alongside him in that one.