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Re: Godzilla 1954 Remake

Postby UltramanGoji » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:18 pm

LegendZilla wrote:
edgaguirus wrote:I feel we had a nice "remake" with Shin Godzilla. I know it's technically a reboot, but it made for a good modern remake of sorts.


Reboot=/=remake


This is 100% untrue. A reboot can also be a remake.
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Re: Godzilla 1954 Remake

Postby GojirO » Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:23 pm

LegendZilla wrote:Since someone else on these forms decided to discuss the potential of a Godzilla Vs Hedorah remake of all films, I have decided to pitch my own idea of a remake. Okay, I realize that I have brought this idea up before and it's bound to trigger most of you guys, but is there at least anyone other than myself and Great MM willing to be open towards such a notion as Toho one day doing a full-on remake of the original 1954 Godzilla? I know the film itself is already a classic and rightfully so, but we all have to admit that is not perfect as the case with every film ever made. I am by no means saying that it needs to be superior to the original, but as MM suggested, what few changes do you think would be necessary as a means to improve upon other than effects?

My suggestions are :

* Include a flashback of Emiko and either Ogata or Serizawa dating and/or bonding as teenagers, since such a scene was pitched for the original film, but never filmed. Such a scene might help flesh out the characters slightly more.

* Flesh out the character of that one camera man who befriends Senkichi a bit more.

* Show one or two minutes of Yamane gaining custody of Senkichi, or at least imply it.

* Rather than getting scared off by mere fighter jets, have Godzilla leave Tokyo on his own accord.

How are those for suggestions?

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Re: Godzilla 1954 Remake

Postby PRIMEVAL » Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:43 pm

UltramanGoji wrote:
LegendZilla wrote:
edgaguirus wrote:I feel we had a nice "remake" with Shin Godzilla. I know it's technically a reboot, but it made for a good modern remake of sorts.


Reboot=/=remake


This is 100% untrue. A reboot can also be a remake.


This. All remakes are reboots, but not all reboots are remakes.


And for remaking of the original, it'd have to be done well. As someone has mentioned before, KK'05 is a worthy example of a well done remake. I also wouldn't be opposed to a mini-series as a remake to help expand on characters and issues presented in the original film. Like a 3 part series, an hour to an hour in a half in length.

No Peter Jackson style trilogy, though. Not sure if the original story could be expanded that much.

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Re: Godzilla 1954 Remake

Postby LegendZilla » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:12 pm

PRIMEVAL wrote:
UltramanGoji wrote:
LegendZilla wrote:
Reboot=/=remake


This is 100% untrue. A reboot can also be a remake.


This. All remakes are reboots, but not all reboots are remakes.


And for remaking of the original, it'd have to be done well. As someone has mentioned before, KK'05 is a worthy example of a well done remake. I also wouldn't be opposed to a mini-series as a remake to help expand on characters and issues presented in the original film. Like a 3 part series, an hour to an hour in a half in length.

No Peter Jackson style trilogy, though. Not sure if the original story could be expanded that much.


I’d have a full 2-hour film.
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Re: Godzilla 1954 Remake

Postby Gerdzerl » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:08 am

I wouldn't mind having a series of novels to both expand upon existing lore and adding new lore for the Showa universe, like how Star Wars has a bunch of novels that directly supplement and add-on to the films.

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Re: Godzilla 1954 Remake

Postby Zarm » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:59 am

Actually, a period prequel film about Serizawa's history- how he got the eyepatch, his work on this revolutionary science, meeting with (but ultimately alienation of without realizing it) Emiko, maybe against a background of the war... done right, that could be a really cool film!
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Re: Godzilla 1954 Remake

Postby Ivo-goji » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:22 am

I had this idea for a fanfic that was basically about Dr. Serizawa, Emiko, Steve Martin, and Dr. Mafune in their college days.
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Re: Godzilla 1954 Remake

Postby LegendZilla » Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:36 pm

I have noticed people justify the existence remakes such as John Carpenter’s The Thing and Invasion of The Body Snatchers by saying they we’re not so much remakes as much as re-adaptations of literary works. By that logic, would that justify a re-adaptation of Jaws or Jurassic Park?

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Re: Godzilla 1954 Remake

Postby eabaker » Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:18 pm

LegendZilla wrote:I have noticed people justify the existence remakes such as John Carpenter’s The Thing and Invasion of The Body Snatchers by saying they we’re not so much remakes as much as re-adaptations of literary works. By that logic, would that justify a re-adaptation of Jaws or Jurassic Park?


Totally. In the case of JP, I actually think a re-adaptation would be a lot more interesting than further sequels.
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Re: Godzilla 1954 Remake

Postby LegendZilla » Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:22 pm

eabaker wrote:
LegendZilla wrote:I have noticed people justify the existence remakes such as John Carpenter’s The Thing and Invasion of The Body Snatchers by saying they we’re not so much remakes as much as re-adaptations of literary works. By that logic, would that justify a re-adaptation of Jaws or Jurassic Park?


Totally. In the case of JP, I actually think a re-adaptation would be a lot more interesting than further sequels.


Yeah and just how many times has A Christmas Carol, Les Miserables or Treasure Island been adapted?
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Re: Godzilla 1954 Remake

Postby GalacticPetey » Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:41 pm

LegendZilla wrote:
eabaker wrote:
LegendZilla wrote:I have noticed people justify the existence remakes such as John Carpenter’s The Thing and Invasion of The Body Snatchers by saying they we’re not so much remakes as much as re-adaptations of literary works. By that logic, would that justify a re-adaptation of Jaws or Jurassic Park?


Totally. In the case of JP, I actually think a re-adaptation would be a lot more interesting than further sequels.


Yeah and just how many times has A Christmas Carol, Les Miserables or Treasure Island been adapted?

I would love to see another attempt at a film adaption of the musical version of Les Mis. The 2012 film suffers from some questionable choices in the realm of cinematography and some poor casting (casting people who can't sing very well in a musical).

Jurassic Park's film adaptation is such a departure from the book that I would gladly accept a re-adaptation. Lost World even more so.
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Re: Godzilla 1954 Remake

Postby eabaker » Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:42 pm

LegendZilla wrote:
eabaker wrote:
LegendZilla wrote:I have noticed people justify the existence remakes such as John Carpenter’s The Thing and Invasion of The Body Snatchers by saying they we’re not so much remakes as much as re-adaptations of literary works. By that logic, would that justify a re-adaptation of Jaws or Jurassic Park?


Totally. In the case of JP, I actually think a re-adaptation would be a lot more interesting than further sequels.


Yeah and just how many times has A Christmas Carol, Les Miserables or Treasure Island been adapted?


Heck, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde got about 11 different adaptations just during the silent era.
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Re: Godzilla 1954 Remake

Postby Gerdzerl » Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:57 pm

I'd love a re-adaption of Jurassic Park, especially if the dinosaurs were updated to be more scientifically accurate with what we currently understand about them.

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Let's give those raptors some feathers already!
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Re: Godzilla 1954 Remake

Postby Zarm » Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:19 am

I don't know if I'm ready to see raging jerk-hole John Hammond, though...
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Re: Godzilla 1954 Remake

Postby MM Raids Again » Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:14 pm

Gerdzerl wrote:I'd love a re-adaption of Jurassic Park, especially if the dinosaurs were updated to be more scientifically accurate with what we currently understand about them.

Let's give those raptors some feathers already!


Doesn't make sense to put feathers on JP Velociraptors in the first place. Because they don't look nor act like the real ones would and are like 3x their size.
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Re: Godzilla 1954 Remake

Postby Maritonic » Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:21 pm

Jurassic World explains the scientific inaccuracies of the dinosaurs. Dr. Wu makes a point to say if they used actual unaltered DNA most of the dinosaurs would "look quite different" but that the company wanted "more teeth". I always took this as the writers explaining away the scientific inaccuracies as the DNA sequence was always altered in the original films and modified with amphibian DNA.
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Re: Godzilla 1954 Remake

Postby Gerdzerl » Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:19 pm

MM Raids Again wrote:
Gerdzerl wrote:I'd love a re-adaption of Jurassic Park, especially if the dinosaurs were updated to be more scientifically accurate with what we currently understand about them.

Let's give those raptors some feathers already!


Doesn't make sense to put feathers on JP Velociraptors in the first place. Because they don't look nor act like the real ones would and are like 3x their size.


I'm not talking about the pre-existing JP raptors, though. I'm talking about brand new raptors for a brand new and separate continuity, a reboot, unconnected to the existing film series aside from brand name.

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Re: Godzilla 1954 Remake

Postby LegendZilla » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:57 am

Gerdzerl wrote:I'd love a re-adaption of Jurassic Park, especially if the dinosaurs were updated to be more scientifically accurate with what we currently understand about them.

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Let's give those raptors some feathers already!


If such a hypothetical remake/re-adaptation can rectify Jurassic Park in that regard, maybe the same can be done in a Godzilla 1954 remake with Dr.Yamane’s lecture where he erroneously says the Dinosaurs were 2 million years ago. Just thought I’d bring the thread back on topic.
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Re: Godzilla 1954 Remake

Postby Stefanos of Levanon » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:58 am

I would love to see a remake of 54 in the style of Thunderbirds, marionette puppetry.
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Re: Godzilla 1954 Remake

Postby LegendZilla » Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:29 am

Here’s another idea I’d like to pitch for a remake. Judging by how many of you are okay with far-fetched ideas such as lost WW2 souls, tail-lasers or even Godzilla being plant-based, how would you feel if Godzilla was not strictly bipedal? For example he would usually rise up on two legs either to breathe fire or navigate through water.
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