If You Could, What Godzilla Films Would You Alter/Improve? And How?
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I think they're all fine for what they are but if I had to change something, I'd probably give Godzilla and Destoroyah's battle in Godzilla vs. Destoroyah a much better ending that doesn't involve the JSDF. Either have Destoroyah kill Godzilla but be vaporized by the meltdown's energy or have Godzilla kill Destoroyah himself without any help from the JSDF and then meltdown.
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This so much. I always hear that the ending was changed because they felt having Godzilla kill Destoroyah while melting down would have taken away from the emotional impact. Fair point, but I don't know why they didn't just go with Destoroyah being killed, and then having the meltdown begin.UltramanGoji wrote:have Godzilla kill Destoroyah himself without any help from the JSDF and then meltdown.
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While I agree with UltramanGoji, the films are fine the way they are, but if me changing up a Godzilla film is a must, I would change up Godzilla Final Wars. I feel like that if it was revised and changes were made to the film, then it could be a solid film. Here are some of the changes I would make:
- Get rid of Monster X and Keizer Ghidorah. While I like Monster X, Keizer Ghidorah is garbage. Even then, I don't know why they put him in this film and not King Ghidorah. So, I would replace X and Keizer with King Ghidorah.
- The monsters. I would redesign Godzilla, King Caesar, and Hedorah. Give Godzilla a face that doesn't look like a rat with fangs, change up KC COMPLETELY. And get rid of the parts of Hedorah I didn't care for.
- The Characters. X and Captain Gordon were alright. But I would give the other characters better lines and make sure they and the monsters get a good amount of spotlight and not just focused around Ozaki.
- Get rid of Monster X and Keizer Ghidorah. While I like Monster X, Keizer Ghidorah is garbage. Even then, I don't know why they put him in this film and not King Ghidorah. So, I would replace X and Keizer with King Ghidorah.
- The monsters. I would redesign Godzilla, King Caesar, and Hedorah. Give Godzilla a face that doesn't look like a rat with fangs, change up KC COMPLETELY. And get rid of the parts of Hedorah I didn't care for.
- The Characters. X and Captain Gordon were alright. But I would give the other characters better lines and make sure they and the monsters get a good amount of spotlight and not just focused around Ozaki.
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Bringing this thread with some ideas.
Note: I'm only including the films that I've seen.
Godzilla (1954): keep the scene where Godzilla is eating cows. That way, he would act like a real animal.
King Kong vs Godzilla: same for now
Destroy all Monsters: If Kong's rights are extended a bit, he could appear in the film. Also add Maguma, Kamacuras and Ebirah, upgrade those suits, and Baragon and Varan's as well. Speaking of which, have Baragon, Manda and Varan help Godzilla fight King Ghidorah in the climax. The film would have an extra few months of production to help it out.
Godzilla vs Hedorah: same for now
Godzilla vs Megalon: less stock footage and more production time, but other then that, keep it the same
Godzilla vs MechaGodzilla: add Anguirus to the climax
Terror of MechaGodzilla: Give Godzilla more screentime. Also have Titanosaurus get freed and team up with Godzilla to fight MechaGodzilla.
Return of Godzilla: same for now
Godzilla vs Biollante: keep the scene with Godzilla encountering the flowers.
Godzilla vs King Ghidorah: add Anguirus to the film. To make it less rushed, Godzilla's battle with Anguirus would replace the scene of Godzilla destroying Tokyo. Mecha King Ghidorah would go on a rampage, so Godzilla and Anguirus must team up to stop him.
Godzilla vs Destoroyah: Scale Godzilla Jr and Aggregate form Destoroyah to 60 meters. That way, Jr could stand a better chance against Destoroyah.
Godzilla (1998): Have Zilla use the atomic ray a bit. Another change is that Zilla would be female. Also have them explain that those missile have venom of the most venomous animals, that way, the death is more reasonable.
GMK: see the fixing movies thread
Godzilla against MechaGodzilla: same for now
Godzilla Final Wars: who knows, possibly a Giant Octopus appearing to take Manda's place, so Manda can help Godzilla fight Hedorah, but honestly, Final Wars is very fun. There is one change, give this film a sequel or some prequals.
Godzilla (2014): a bit of fights would not hurt.
Godzilla Resurgence: give Shin Godzilla's Third form more screentime.
Anime Godzilla Trilogy: possibly give it an anime series, so more potential. I honestly found the Anime Trilogy to be good, but more fights would not hurt.
Note: I'm only including the films that I've seen.
Godzilla (1954): keep the scene where Godzilla is eating cows. That way, he would act like a real animal.
King Kong vs Godzilla: same for now
Destroy all Monsters: If Kong's rights are extended a bit, he could appear in the film. Also add Maguma, Kamacuras and Ebirah, upgrade those suits, and Baragon and Varan's as well. Speaking of which, have Baragon, Manda and Varan help Godzilla fight King Ghidorah in the climax. The film would have an extra few months of production to help it out.
Godzilla vs Hedorah: same for now
Godzilla vs Megalon: less stock footage and more production time, but other then that, keep it the same
Godzilla vs MechaGodzilla: add Anguirus to the climax
Terror of MechaGodzilla: Give Godzilla more screentime. Also have Titanosaurus get freed and team up with Godzilla to fight MechaGodzilla.
Return of Godzilla: same for now
Godzilla vs Biollante: keep the scene with Godzilla encountering the flowers.
Godzilla vs King Ghidorah: add Anguirus to the film. To make it less rushed, Godzilla's battle with Anguirus would replace the scene of Godzilla destroying Tokyo. Mecha King Ghidorah would go on a rampage, so Godzilla and Anguirus must team up to stop him.
Godzilla vs Destoroyah: Scale Godzilla Jr and Aggregate form Destoroyah to 60 meters. That way, Jr could stand a better chance against Destoroyah.
Godzilla (1998): Have Zilla use the atomic ray a bit. Another change is that Zilla would be female. Also have them explain that those missile have venom of the most venomous animals, that way, the death is more reasonable.
GMK: see the fixing movies thread
Godzilla against MechaGodzilla: same for now
Godzilla Final Wars: who knows, possibly a Giant Octopus appearing to take Manda's place, so Manda can help Godzilla fight Hedorah, but honestly, Final Wars is very fun. There is one change, give this film a sequel or some prequals.
Godzilla (2014): a bit of fights would not hurt.
Godzilla Resurgence: give Shin Godzilla's Third form more screentime.
Anime Godzilla Trilogy: possibly give it an anime series, so more potential. I honestly found the Anime Trilogy to be good, but more fights would not hurt.
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Move the anti-climactic "fire dragon" sequence of DAM BEFORE the big fight with Ghidorah. Kong, Imago Mothra and a few other monsters may have been fun, but that's the sort of stuff the filmmakers didn't really have control over, so I won't bother wondering about it.
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CommanderBowser wrote:Terror of MechaGodzilla: Give Godzilla more screentime. Also have Titanosaurus get freed and team up with Godzilla to fight MechaGodzilla.
I know these are just your ideas but I hope you don't mind some feedback on why I think these two examples are better off unchanged.Godzilla vs King Ghidorah: add Anguirus to the film. To make it less rushed, Godzilla's battle with Anguirus would replace the scene of Godzilla destroying Tokyo. Mecha King Ghidorah would go on a rampage, so Godzilla and Anguirus must team up to stop him.
I think the conclusion of Terror of Mechagodzilla works better if you realize Titanosaurus is just another innocent victim of Mafune's selfish pursuits. Katsura has to die, so should the gentle Titanosaurus. Mafune used both for his means and ultimately robbed both of their natures and I just don't think the movie would work as well for me if the climax was altered from that.
As for King Ghidorah, I like the idea of having only two monsters. It's already a very complicated narrative so adding another monster, especially right at the end, only makes it more cluttered. It also changes the link between the two existing monsters.
We track both through their various evolutions, from their pre-mutative states in 1944 to their familiar monster forms in 1992 to their ultimate forms in the Shinjuku showdown. At the end, Godzilla is bigger and more powerful than ever while Ghidorah is revived with future technology so it can stand a chance against Godzilla. In their initial forms they also display some kind of emotional connection to humans: Godzilla appears appreciative of the Japanese soldiers and the Dorats are stated to have been engineered to respond to human emotions. But by the film's conclusion, both characters are totally "monsterified." Godzilla seems to have lost all sympathy for Shindo and the same creature that once "helped" Japan is now actively destroying it. Ghidorah, meanwhile, is basically a robot zombie far far removed from the cute pets that were left at Lagos Island.
I also like that the two title matches mirror each other. In the first, Ghidorah is the villain, being controlled by the 23rd Century people to destroy Japan. Godzilla obviously isn't really a hero: the Japanese hope that he'll unwittingly help them by destroying Ghidorah. Once he does, he becomes the menace again, so they have to go to the future to resurrect Ghidorah, previously their foe, to stop Godzilla's rampage. It's complicated but also really clever plotting. Emi gets rid of Godzilla, but MKG is defeated as well. In other words, their creations are linked as are their fates. Of course, Toho continued the series and brought Godzilla back and ultimately made him more powerful in vs. Destoroyah, kind of undoing all that, but as a standalone entry I like how Godzilla and Ghidorah are tied together here. I feel that another monster would change that too much.
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You beat me to it Terasawa! I agree, for me having another teamup battle against MG would not only feel redundant, but hurt the story. Story should always be a top priority.Terasawa wrote:I know these are just your ideas but I hope you don't mind some feedback on why I think these two examples are better off unchanged.CommanderBowser wrote:Terror of MechaGodzilla: Give Godzilla more screentime. Also have Titanosaurus get freed and team up with Godzilla to fight MechaGodzilla.
I think the conclusion of Terror of Mechagodzilla works better if you realize Titanosaurus is just another innocent victim of Mafune's selfish pursuits. Katsura has to die, so should the gentle Titanosaurus. Mafune used both for his means and ultimately robbed both of their natures and I just don't think the movie would work as well for me if the climax was altered from that.
Godzilla's screentime works since at this point he's this "Monster of Justice", and pretty much only needs to battle the antagonists. I found all of Godzilla's scenes in TOMG to be very memorable.
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In Japan anyway it was billed as the second film of the "Mechagodzilla Series," so I don't think it's such a problem that Godzilla plays a supporting part. Certainly the story is about Mafune and his family's tragedy thanks to his actions. I think there are some films where Godzilla is better off yielding the spotlight to someone or something else, and this is one of them.MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote: You beat me to it Terasawa! I agree, for me having another teamup battle against MG would not only feel redundant, but hurt the story. Story should always be a top priority.
Godzilla's screentime works since at this point he's this "Monster of Justice", and pretty much only needs to battle the antagonists. I found all of Godzilla's scenes in TOMG to be very memorable.
Godzilla vs. Megaguirus is one film I'd almost completely rework. I discussed this in another thread but my main idea would be to invert the theme of the first Godzilla film. There, Godzilla stands in for man's undisciplined use of atomic energy and weaponry and the Oxygen Destroyer, a device with even more catastrophic potential, was used as a last effort to stop Godzilla. Here, I would have our characters use another similar super weapon, the Dimension Tide, to stop Godzilla with the purpose of continuing the development of nuclear and other energy sources that Godzilla had been interrupting since 1954. I doubt any Japanese filmmaker would have ever made a film with that message but I think it's more interesting than the crap we got. It also presents a more interesting alternate Japan than just "lol we moved the capital to Osaka for this neat digital matte."
I'd also ditch Megaguirus. How the hell do the Meganula even fit into the film we got? They're an accidental byproduct of the use of the DT but that's never explained or even worried about and Godzilla kills Megaguirus before the real narrative can be wrapped up. It has nothing to do with Tsujimori getting revenge against Godzilla and it's only tangentially related to the Japanese government continuing their energy projects in secret. It makes no sense. Eliminate the other monsters and the flooded city subplot that adds up to a whole lot of nothing and use all that extra time to change Kudo from an annoying creep into a more complex character. There wouldn't be any little kid who floods Tokyo and then disappears until a confusing and pointless cliffhanger. Ultimately this is a film about Japan and Kiriko against Godzilla. There's no room for any of that other stuff.
To further set it apart from other Godzilla movies, title it "The Godzilla Eradication Operation."
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As for me wanting Titanosaurus to team up, well I did not want Titanosaurus to get killed, instead Titanosaurus should at least be able to survive, for Godzilla to spare him and leave him be.
As for my alterations for Godzilla vs King Ghidorah, it is only if certain films where altered.
If there is a minor change, then have Godzillasaurus and the Dorats show up earlier in the film, and replace some human scenes with monster scenes.
As for my alterations for Godzilla vs King Ghidorah, it is only if certain films where altered.
If there is a minor change, then have Godzillasaurus and the Dorats show up earlier in the film, and replace some human scenes with monster scenes.
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I would make one minor change to the original 1954 Gojira. During the climax with the Oxygen Destroyer, show the part where Godzilla rises and then sinks back under the waves, but don't show the body disintegrating and disappearing. None of the characters actually sees what happens, so neither should the audience. This doesn't really change the ending of the film other then to leave it a little more open.
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Godzilla Raids Again - slow down the footage so the fights don't look ridiculous. Show Anguirus surviving.
Gotengo - Introduce a subplot where the Mu Empire can finally come out of the ocean, which the surface world wants to stop because it would throw off the tides completely. The final battle takes place in this risen Mu Empire, where Manda and Gotengo can smash things up.
Mothra vs Godzilla - Establish that Infant Island got messed up between Mothra and this. Establish firmly that rather than descendants, the larvae are reincarnations of her, and that she's still the same character.
Frankenstein vs Baragon - Baragon wins. Less focus on Frankenstein "growing up".
Ebirah - Change Godzilla to King Kong, as per the original script.
Destroy All Monsters - Mothra becomes her imago form at some point. The monsters who sat out the final battle have more of a presence.
Godzilla vs Megalon - Make Jet Jaguar closer to the original Red Arone design, and change the Seatopians into the Mu Empire from Gotengo.
Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla - Make small changes in the dialogue so that this and Tokyo SOS take place in the Showa universe fully.
Gotengo - Introduce a subplot where the Mu Empire can finally come out of the ocean, which the surface world wants to stop because it would throw off the tides completely. The final battle takes place in this risen Mu Empire, where Manda and Gotengo can smash things up.
Mothra vs Godzilla - Establish that Infant Island got messed up between Mothra and this. Establish firmly that rather than descendants, the larvae are reincarnations of her, and that she's still the same character.
Frankenstein vs Baragon - Baragon wins. Less focus on Frankenstein "growing up".
Ebirah - Change Godzilla to King Kong, as per the original script.
Destroy All Monsters - Mothra becomes her imago form at some point. The monsters who sat out the final battle have more of a presence.
Godzilla vs Megalon - Make Jet Jaguar closer to the original Red Arone design, and change the Seatopians into the Mu Empire from Gotengo.
Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla - Make small changes in the dialogue so that this and Tokyo SOS take place in the Showa universe fully.
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- Add in King Kong at the end of Destroy All Monsters
- Have the final fight in Godzilla final wars be Godzilla, Mothra, and Rodan vs. King Ghidorah, Gigan, and Mechagodzilla
- Go with the original idea of Manda and Varan in GMK
- Add in a second monster to Godzilla vs Megaguirus...Megaguirus is pretty boring on his own
- Have Bryan Cranston's character make it to San Francisco and sacrifice himself to save Ford from the MUTO in the third act.
- Have the final fight in Godzilla final wars be Godzilla, Mothra, and Rodan vs. King Ghidorah, Gigan, and Mechagodzilla
- Go with the original idea of Manda and Varan in GMK
- Add in a second monster to Godzilla vs Megaguirus...Megaguirus is pretty boring on his own
- Have Bryan Cranston's character make it to San Francisco and sacrifice himself to save Ford from the MUTO in the third act.
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The only things I would ever alter or change, were designs or scenes that got beyond the cutting room floor. It’s a shame how consistently we’ve seen Godzilla films lose some OOMPH, due to last minute cuts.
Case and point, the cut flowerfield scene from Godzilla vs. Biollante. Or how originally, when Biollante disappears, she lands a “killing blow” on Godzilla.
Same for how Destroyah was originally offed.
Both films suffer from having fantastic opponents that sort of just randomly jump to the side in the last few mins.
Case and point, the cut flowerfield scene from Godzilla vs. Biollante. Or how originally, when Biollante disappears, she lands a “killing blow” on Godzilla.
Same for how Destroyah was originally offed.
Both films suffer from having fantastic opponents that sort of just randomly jump to the side in the last few mins.
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Godzilla Raids Again: Have the battle in Osaka be the true climax, Godzilla's final battle with the jets happens just 10 minutes later instead of half a movie later.
King Kong vs. Godzilla: Have Kong win the battle using his supposed "superior intellect" instead of zappy fingers.
Ghidorah: Have two Mothra Larva or explain what happened to the missing one. Also, have Godzilla and Rodan deal a more serious blow to Ghidorah that motivates him to leave Earth.
Monster Zero: Actually have Ghidorah attack New York onscreen, as is mentioned in the film.
Godzilla vs. the Sea Monster: Make the original script with King Kong, who would fit much better in the movie, instead of Godzilla.
Destroy All Monsters: Have more scenes of the international kaiju rampage. Baragon ACTUALLY attacks Paris, Manda attacks London onscreen, etc. Also, cut out the unnecessary Moonlight SY3 vs. Fire Dragon dogfight and just end it with the Kilaak base being destroyed.
Godzilla's Revenge: Just don't make it.
Godzilla vs. Gigan: No monster talk please.
Godzilla vs. Megalon: I'm tempted to say just don't make it, but I do like Megalon...
Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla: Have King Caesar awaken earlier in the film and fight a losing battle against Mechagodzilla instead of saving him for the climax.
Godzilla vs. Biollante: Change the ending so that Biollante single-handedly and unequivocally defeats Godzilla before leaving for space. Cut the stupid car chase and Godzilla reviving two minutes later.
Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla 2: Have Rodan survive to actually join Godzilla in battle against Super Mechagodzilla.
Godzilla vs. Destoroyah: Have Godzilla be the one to kill Destoroyah, not Super X3.
Godzilla 1998: Just don't make it.
GMK: Make the original concept with Anguirus and Varan instead of Mothra and Ghidorah.
Tokyo SOS: Actually show an underwater battle between Godzilla and Kamoebas early in the film, before the carcass is found.
Final Wars: Replace King Caesar with Titanosaurus. Give Hedorah a better role and an actual fight with Godzilla. Cut out Minilla entirely.
Godzilla 2014: Actually show the battle between Godzilla and the male MUTO in Honolulu.
The Anime Trilogy: Have Godzilla actually fight Mechagodzilla in the second film instead of some stupid nanometal city. Incorporate a few other kaiju so there's actual action after the first movie. Maybe have there be a few Anguirus or Varan surviving on a Godzilla-dominated planet, being hunted by Godzilla Filius offshoots. Have Mothra actually come into play during the third film and help Godzilla defeat Ghidorah. Also, have Ghidorah fully appear and fight Godzilla, not some heads poking through black holes. I feel like the anime trilogy could have been so much better if a few changes like this were made.
King of the Monsters: Use actual Toho kaiju as the Titans awakened by Ghidorah instead of a Kumonga wannabe, a big mammoth and Torterra's ugly cousin. Just use Kumonga, Anguirus and maybe Titanosaurus or Baragon.
King Kong vs. Godzilla: Have Kong win the battle using his supposed "superior intellect" instead of zappy fingers.
Ghidorah: Have two Mothra Larva or explain what happened to the missing one. Also, have Godzilla and Rodan deal a more serious blow to Ghidorah that motivates him to leave Earth.
Monster Zero: Actually have Ghidorah attack New York onscreen, as is mentioned in the film.
Godzilla vs. the Sea Monster: Make the original script with King Kong, who would fit much better in the movie, instead of Godzilla.
Destroy All Monsters: Have more scenes of the international kaiju rampage. Baragon ACTUALLY attacks Paris, Manda attacks London onscreen, etc. Also, cut out the unnecessary Moonlight SY3 vs. Fire Dragon dogfight and just end it with the Kilaak base being destroyed.
Godzilla's Revenge: Just don't make it.
Godzilla vs. Gigan: No monster talk please.
Godzilla vs. Megalon: I'm tempted to say just don't make it, but I do like Megalon...
Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla: Have King Caesar awaken earlier in the film and fight a losing battle against Mechagodzilla instead of saving him for the climax.
Godzilla vs. Biollante: Change the ending so that Biollante single-handedly and unequivocally defeats Godzilla before leaving for space. Cut the stupid car chase and Godzilla reviving two minutes later.
Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla 2: Have Rodan survive to actually join Godzilla in battle against Super Mechagodzilla.
Godzilla vs. Destoroyah: Have Godzilla be the one to kill Destoroyah, not Super X3.
Godzilla 1998: Just don't make it.
GMK: Make the original concept with Anguirus and Varan instead of Mothra and Ghidorah.
Tokyo SOS: Actually show an underwater battle between Godzilla and Kamoebas early in the film, before the carcass is found.
Final Wars: Replace King Caesar with Titanosaurus. Give Hedorah a better role and an actual fight with Godzilla. Cut out Minilla entirely.
Godzilla 2014: Actually show the battle between Godzilla and the male MUTO in Honolulu.
The Anime Trilogy: Have Godzilla actually fight Mechagodzilla in the second film instead of some stupid nanometal city. Incorporate a few other kaiju so there's actual action after the first movie. Maybe have there be a few Anguirus or Varan surviving on a Godzilla-dominated planet, being hunted by Godzilla Filius offshoots. Have Mothra actually come into play during the third film and help Godzilla defeat Ghidorah. Also, have Ghidorah fully appear and fight Godzilla, not some heads poking through black holes. I feel like the anime trilogy could have been so much better if a few changes like this were made.
King of the Monsters: Use actual Toho kaiju as the Titans awakened by Ghidorah instead of a Kumonga wannabe, a big mammoth and Torterra's ugly cousin. Just use Kumonga, Anguirus and maybe Titanosaurus or Baragon.
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and were never really friends.
is best girl, is best boy
and were never really friends.
is best girl, is best boy
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Re: If You Could, What Godzilla Films Would You Alter/Improve? And How?
I appreciate it, however, Michael himself admitted he wanted to use other Toho Kaiju as well, as shown in various concept art. But what you need to remember is that each had its own price tag.HedorahIsBestGirl wrote:King of the Monsters: Use actual Toho kaiju as the Titans awakened by Ghidorah instead of a Kumonga wannabe, a big mammoth and Torterra's ugly cousin. Just use Kumonga, Anguirus and maybe Titanosaurus or Baragon.
Would you rather have them spend a vast majority of their budget just for fanservice cameos, the same issue that plagued Final Wars and Destroy All Monsters?
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Re: If You Could, What Godzilla Films Would You Alter/Improve? And How?
Showa Era (16 Godzilla films):
-Frankenstein vs Godzilla in 1963, between King Kong vs Godzilla and Mothra vs Godzilla (with King Kong vs Frankenstein possibly being a film later on in the decade), keep the story treatment but rewrite to fit the timeline
-erase Godzilla’s Revenge out of existence and replace it with Batman vs Godzilla
-It possible, include Kong and Frankenstein in Destroy All Monsters
Heisei Era (8 films):
-Godzilla 1984 is retitled to “the Rebirth of Godzilla,” Steve Martin is part of the story, not just an addition by the American release
-Godzilla vs Biollante, retitled to “the Return of Godzilla,” is pushed forward to 1986
-Godzilla vs Godzilla in 1988, with Anguirus but without Little Godzilla or any story treads from the latter Heisei films
Godzilla vs Godzilla serves in this case as the “epic conclusion” to what would be the “1980s Toho Godzilla trilogy” that together would connect to the original 1954 film and delve into its nuclear allegories (with events like the Cold War and Chernobyl happening in the background throughout the trilogy). “Ghost Godzilla” wouldn’t be a ghost but rather akin to what GMK was; the original Godzilla reincarnated through the use of more nuclear weapons.
-the movies from 1991 to 1995 are pushed forward a year so they conclude in 1994, the 40th anniversary of the franchise
Jan de Bont’s Godzilla
-actually released in its original 1996 release date with potential sequels (if successful at the box office) in 1999 and 2002
Millenium Era (6 films)
-GMK; like a lot of people suggest, replace Ghidorah and Mothra with Varan and Anguirus (though I’d replace Anguirus with a much lesser known monster like Kamoebas or Manda, that way all 3 guardians are obscure kaiju finally being in the spotlight)
By 2014, you’d have 30 Toho Godzilla films with 1-3 Tristar Godzilla films. With the inclusion of Batman vs Godzilla, Frankenstein vs Godzilla, and a potential Tristar trilogy, you’d have the franchise be much more successful and recognizable worldwide.
-Frankenstein vs Godzilla in 1963, between King Kong vs Godzilla and Mothra vs Godzilla (with King Kong vs Frankenstein possibly being a film later on in the decade), keep the story treatment but rewrite to fit the timeline
-erase Godzilla’s Revenge out of existence and replace it with Batman vs Godzilla
-It possible, include Kong and Frankenstein in Destroy All Monsters
Heisei Era (8 films):
-Godzilla 1984 is retitled to “the Rebirth of Godzilla,” Steve Martin is part of the story, not just an addition by the American release
-Godzilla vs Biollante, retitled to “the Return of Godzilla,” is pushed forward to 1986
-Godzilla vs Godzilla in 1988, with Anguirus but without Little Godzilla or any story treads from the latter Heisei films
Godzilla vs Godzilla serves in this case as the “epic conclusion” to what would be the “1980s Toho Godzilla trilogy” that together would connect to the original 1954 film and delve into its nuclear allegories (with events like the Cold War and Chernobyl happening in the background throughout the trilogy). “Ghost Godzilla” wouldn’t be a ghost but rather akin to what GMK was; the original Godzilla reincarnated through the use of more nuclear weapons.
-the movies from 1991 to 1995 are pushed forward a year so they conclude in 1994, the 40th anniversary of the franchise
Jan de Bont’s Godzilla
-actually released in its original 1996 release date with potential sequels (if successful at the box office) in 1999 and 2002
Millenium Era (6 films)
-GMK; like a lot of people suggest, replace Ghidorah and Mothra with Varan and Anguirus (though I’d replace Anguirus with a much lesser known monster like Kamoebas or Manda, that way all 3 guardians are obscure kaiju finally being in the spotlight)
By 2014, you’d have 30 Toho Godzilla films with 1-3 Tristar Godzilla films. With the inclusion of Batman vs Godzilla, Frankenstein vs Godzilla, and a potential Tristar trilogy, you’d have the franchise be much more successful and recognizable worldwide.
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Re: If You Could, What Godzilla Films Would You Alter/Improve? And How?
Ebirah: Horror of the Deep: Just keep Kong in the film,simple as that.
All Monsters Attack: Erase it from existence.
Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla: Keep King Caesar's original name: King Vulcan,and bring back the horns on his head. Include some extra scenes with Anguirus healing from his broken jaw and have him in the final battle.
Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah: Change Ghidorah's origins so he's an alien again and remove the time travel plot. Have Ghidorah beat Godzilla in their first fight,and the final fight is where Godzilla blows off the middle head and throws him into the sea,remove Mecha King Ghidorah.
Godzilla vs. Mothra: Just have Mothra and Battra in the film and name it Mothra vs. Battra. Godzilla just had no place in this movie.
Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla 2: Replace Mechagodzilla with Mecha-King Ghidorah.
Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla: Replace M.O.G.E.U.R.A with Mechagodzilla,slim down the SpaceGodzilla suit so he can actually move.
Godzilla 98: Well i would say keep the original Jay De Bont script but i love Zilla too much../
GMK: Replace Ghidorah and Mothra with Varan and Manda. Keep Baragon alive (by keeping a piece of the original script and have him be revived by lighting) and have him join his fellow guardians for the final battle. When Varan gets powered up by Manda's death,actually have him put up a fight instead of going out like a weakling. When Godzilla's just about to kill him,that's when the drill goes into his body,he tries to fire his atomic breath but ends up killing himself. At the end of the fil,we see Varan go back into his cavern to rest.
Final Wars: Fix King Vulcan's design,fix Godzilla's face,have Anguirus's face look more like the Showa one. Give Hedorah a more promenant role (seriously a monster cool as him should not be reduced to a cameo!)
All Monsters Attack: Erase it from existence.
Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla: Keep King Caesar's original name: King Vulcan,and bring back the horns on his head. Include some extra scenes with Anguirus healing from his broken jaw and have him in the final battle.
Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah: Change Ghidorah's origins so he's an alien again and remove the time travel plot. Have Ghidorah beat Godzilla in their first fight,and the final fight is where Godzilla blows off the middle head and throws him into the sea,remove Mecha King Ghidorah.
Godzilla vs. Mothra: Just have Mothra and Battra in the film and name it Mothra vs. Battra. Godzilla just had no place in this movie.
Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla 2: Replace Mechagodzilla with Mecha-King Ghidorah.
Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla: Replace M.O.G.E.U.R.A with Mechagodzilla,slim down the SpaceGodzilla suit so he can actually move.
Godzilla 98: Well i would say keep the original Jay De Bont script but i love Zilla too much../
GMK: Replace Ghidorah and Mothra with Varan and Manda. Keep Baragon alive (by keeping a piece of the original script and have him be revived by lighting) and have him join his fellow guardians for the final battle. When Varan gets powered up by Manda's death,actually have him put up a fight instead of going out like a weakling. When Godzilla's just about to kill him,that's when the drill goes into his body,he tries to fire his atomic breath but ends up killing himself. At the end of the fil,we see Varan go back into his cavern to rest.
Final Wars: Fix King Vulcan's design,fix Godzilla's face,have Anguirus's face look more like the Showa one. Give Hedorah a more promenant role (seriously a monster cool as him should not be reduced to a cameo!)
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Re: If You Could, What Godzilla Films Would You Alter/Improve? And How?
It's more of a title change, but change the Title of Godzilla vs MechaGodzilla 2 into Godzilla vs Rodan vs MechaGodzilla, to avoid confusion with the Showa version
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