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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby edgaguirus » Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:56 pm

Kroiga works better for me. Black Moth sounds like a giant insect, not a winged lion. As for the kaiju itself, I like it. The design has a mythological vibe.
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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby Kaltes-Herzeleid » Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:33 pm

edgaguirus wrote:Kroiga works better for me. Black Moth sounds like a giant insect, not a winged lion. As for the kaiju itself, I like it. The design has a mythological vibe.


The name "Black Moth" makes me think of Battra, not a flying lion.
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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby _JNavs_ » Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:44 pm

I don't like Heisei Mechagodzilla.

I think, the concept behind it is cool, but it just looks and acts too much like a fridge for me. Like i don't think it's a terrible mech, i just think the execution is unmemorable. Especially in comparison with the likes of MG74 and Kiryu.
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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby Gigantis » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:00 pm

_JNavs_ wrote:I don't like Heisei Mechagodzilla.

I think, the concept behind it is cool, but it just looks and acts too much like a fridge for me. Like i don't think it's a terrible mech, i just think the execution is unmemorable. Especially in comparison with the likes of MG74 and Kiryu.


I'm not really sure how unpopular this is. Most people i know called Heisei there least favorite Mechagodzilla. Well until Anime came along.
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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby godjacob » Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:38 pm

I still think Heisei is worst than the anime Mechagodzilla. The anime Mechagodzilla may have been a bait and switch, but least the concept was potentially something. Heisei Mechagodzilla was a souless laser gun with nothing interesting to speak of.

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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby eabaker » Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:43 pm

Heisei Mechagodzilla isn't really supposed to have a personality or a soul, though. The fact that it's essentially a big walking gun with no natural spark of life is thematically essential to the movie.
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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby godjacob » Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:02 am

eabaker wrote:Heisei Mechagodzilla isn't really supposed to have a personality or a soul, though. The fact that it's essentially a big walking gun with no natural spark of life is thematically essential to the movie.


I understand that, but the first Godzilla filled the living weapon angle better and had more flair to it. Not to mention Heisei Godzilla was so immobile it led to some of the most bland beam spam fights in the series so it wasn't even enjoyable to watch it go to work.

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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby eabaker » Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:24 am

godjacob wrote:
eabaker wrote:Heisei Mechagodzilla isn't really supposed to have a personality or a soul, though. The fact that it's essentially a big walking gun with no natural spark of life is thematically essential to the movie.


I understand that, but the first Godzilla filled the living weapon angle better and had more flair to it. Not to mention Heisei Godzilla was so immobile it led to some of the most bland beam spam fights in the series so it wasn't even enjoyable to watch it go to work.


Oh, I definitely wouldn't put the Heisei version on the same tier as the Showa incarnation, not for a second. I just think it takes an unfair rap when its design and presentation totally fulfill the needs of the movie. And I think something with more flair to it would in some ways be very much the wrong choice for this movie.
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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby DirektorSplennic » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:33 am

eabaker wrote:Heisei Mechagodzilla isn't really supposed to have a personality or a soul, though. The fact that it's essentially a big walking gun with no natural spark of life is thematically essential to the movie.

That's why I like it and its Heisei Moguera counterpart. They're large walking artillery platforms built simply to protect humanity and I love that concept.

Design wise though I kind of wish Heisei MG was more blocky and industrial looking to fit that idea a little more. Something along the lines
of the Ohrai concepts I think could've worked.
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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby Gomi: Ninja Monster » Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:35 am

DirektorSplennic wrote:
eabaker wrote:Heisei Mechagodzilla isn't really supposed to have a personality or a soul, though. The fact that it's essentially a big walking gun with no natural spark of life is thematically essential to the movie.
That's why I like it and its Heisei Moguera counterpart. They're large walking artillery platforms built simply to protect humanity and I love that concept..
Well, at least until the Godzilla Unleashed website had him spinning and calling out his name.

Or is that just me who likes that?

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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby edgaguirus » Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:32 pm

DirektorSplennic wrote:
eabaker wrote:Heisei Mechagodzilla isn't really supposed to have a personality or a soul, though. The fact that it's essentially a big walking gun with no natural spark of life is thematically essential to the movie.

That's why I like it and its Heisei Moguera counterpart. They're large walking artillery platforms built simply to protect humanity and I love that concept.

Design wise though I kind of wish Heisei MG was more blocky and industrial looking to fit that idea a little more. Something along the lines
of the Ohrai concepts I think could've worked.



I think that first red design in the concept art would have been interesting to see.
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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby GodzillavsRayquaza » Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:34 am

I prefer Final Wars to Destroy All Monsters. Final Wars is at least entertaining, DAM is just boring as hell.
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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby Gigantis » Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:25 am

GodzillavsRayquaza wrote:I prefer Final Wars to Destroy All Monsters. Final Wars is at least entertaining, DAM is just boring as hell.


I do like the human plotline better in DAM, but i have to agree Final Wars is a lot more fun.
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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby godjacob » Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:39 am

GodzillavsRayquaza wrote:I prefer Final Wars to Destroy All Monsters. Final Wars is at least entertaining, DAM is just boring as hell.


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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby Terasawa » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:13 pm

DAM isn't the best or even the most enjoyable Godzilla film (YMMV) but I don't think its boring at all. Whether a movie is boring or not is obviously going to vary from person to person: for example, I think GFW is awfully dull. Sure, a lot happens, but none of it captures or maintains my interest at all. Most of GFW's run time is action that doesn't appeal to me in the slightest.
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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby Dr. Professor » Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:21 pm

Not Godzilla, but Gamera: Super Monster is my favorite Showa Gamera film.
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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby Gigantis » Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:12 pm

Dr. Professor wrote:Not Godzilla, but Gamera: Super Monster is my favorite Showa Gamera film.


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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby GodzillavsZilla » Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:29 pm

Dr. Professor wrote:Not Godzilla, but Gamera: Super Monster is my favorite Showa Gamera film.

While it's not my favorite, I think it's overhated in the discussion of the Gamera movies. I enjoyed it more than most of the Showa movies with the only exceptions being Viras and Guiron. I think more people would like it if it was given more of a budget so they can work with the monster scenes better.

The stock footage is a bad decision, but the human scenes are surprisingly a good time. Seeing the kid hanging out with the space women is wholesome and cute. I just wish the scenes with Gamera were better.
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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby Dr. Professor » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:28 pm

GodzillavsZilla wrote:The stock footage is a bad decision, but the human scenes are surprisingly a good time. Seeing the kid hanging out with the space women is wholesome and cute. I just wish the scenes with Gamera were better.

Yeah the characters are what sets it above the rest for me. I found them genuinely fun and engaging, which I can't say for the majority of the other Showa Gamera characters, despite my affection for most of those films.
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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby goji89 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:27 pm

I find the DAM lags in a few spots and could be shorter as for GFW that movie sucked Showa MG space Titanium balls, but...( there is a but) it had it's moments and cool scenes, if you don't have at least one scene in particular from that film you liked then like Cranston said "You're lying"
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