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I fucking love the score for Godzilla vs. Megalon. I might even go so far as to call it the best element of the movie. I lifted a bit of it for an exercise I did in grad school:

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Composers for me:

1.) Akira Ifukube
2.) Kow Otani
3.) Masaru Sato
4.) Michiru Oshima
5.) Reijiro Koroku
6.) Bear McCreary
7.) Alexandre Desplat
8.) Shiro Sagisu
9.) Koichi Sugiyama
10.) David Arnold
11.) Riichiro Manabe
12.) Takayuki Hattori
13.) Kunio Miyauchi
14.) Daisuke Yano/Keith Emerson

Can't say I flat out dislike any of their work, except for Yano & Emerson's GFW score but even then, there's some good to it.
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1. Akira Ifukube
If for no greater reason than the sheer quality and quantity of his work. I mean the guy created Godzilla's iconic roar. You can get more important than that.
2. Reijiro Koroku
My favorite Godzilla score and hands down one of my favorite film scores of all time.
3. Kow Otani
I mean the guy is a legend. Not just his score for GMK but his work in anime and other kaiju films as well.
4. Masaru Sato
Yeah his Gigantis is nothing to write home about but the rest of his work in the series is so infectiously catchy it's hard not to love.
5. Shiro Sagisu
His original material in Shin is largely pretty great. He only really loses points for the fact he only scored a portion of the overall film.
6. Yano/Emerson
Yeah GFW has some duds for sure but some of my absolute favorite pieces of Godzilla music are from the film. For those alone they are able to hang on so high up.
7. David Arnold
Yeah there's only a handful of really exceptional tracks but those tracks stand head and shoulders about the output of most the rest of the field. Still find it lacking compared to his work in other D&E projects.
8.Koichi Sugiyama
His work in Biollante is nothing overly exceptionally but it all works well within the story the film is trying to tell. It's a solid score despite lacking any real outstanding tracks.
9. McCreery, Desplat, Oshima, Hattori, Miyauchi
I have them all tied largely because all their scores were serviceable enough in their respective films but found nothing about any of them that particularity stood out to me. They get the job done but little else. Don't help Desplat and McCreery's music barely even register in their respective films, being largely drowned out by dialogue and sound effects.
10. Riichiro Manabe
Yeah he's bottoms here. His music isn't exactly terrible but just so odd and slightly offputting and even slightly irritating at times.
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If we're throwing American Godzilla composers into the mix, I think Bear McCreary is hands-down the best, I would probably rank him toward the top, right after Ifukube, Sato and Otani. Alexandre Desplat ranks toward the bottom, his score for Godzilla '14 was serviceable but nothing special. David Arnold's score for the TriStar film was marginally better than everything else about that atrocious movie, but I'd still rank him dead last.
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Like I think I already posted before in this thread, I prefer Oshima's Godzilla theme over Ifukube's, although his is obvs much more iconic and stuff.

Dunno, just feels more like the theme for a force of nature like Godzilla to have.

Although I do think that Ifukube overall has the better OSTs, with Otani being a close second (his themes for Godzilla, Mothra and Ghidorah are majestic af) with Oshima following the both of them.

From the American side, I agree with McCreary > Desplat > Arnold
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Desplat's theme was rather bland. Fitting for the movie it's in.

Bear has good themes, but unfortunately KOTM's sound effects have them all out-tuned and you can't really enjoy them with the film itself unlike other scores. Ifukube is still the best, but Oshima and Otani are close!

Also, i like Arnold's score, it's cheesy good.
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tyrantgoji wrote:Desplat's theme was rather bland. Fitting for the movie it's in.
Eh, I liked Desplat's theme, although It worked much better in the Opening Credits than in the movie
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I can't rank them right now, but Back To The Ocean is fukcing amazing and everyone who puts Desplat lower then 6 can't listen to it for a week
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One of my favorite tracks from Final Wars is this little cue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvhPIVi ... -&index=38

From :25 to the end is so good

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Personally, I find David Arnold's Godzilla theme on par with Ifukube. And yes, I am ready to be banished from ever talking about Godzilla music again.

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Cryptid_Liker wrote:Personally, I find David Arnold's Godzilla theme on par with Ifukube. And yes, I am ready to be banished from ever talking about Godzilla music again.
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Cryptid_Liker wrote:Personally, I find David Arnold's Godzilla theme on par with Ifukube. And yes, I am ready to be banished from ever talking about Godzilla music again.
Don't be ashamed, it's David Arnold of all people. For American compositors, his name is usually close to John William's.
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Riichiro Manabe's score for Godzilla vs Hedorah isn't bad at all. It fits the bizarre nature of the film beautifully.

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^Yeah, I think Manabe is subject to way too much disdain. I enjoy his Godzilla vs. Hedorah score a lot and, to a lesser extent, I even enjoy his oft-derided Godzilla vs. Megalon score. He's not one of my favorite Godzilla composers, but that's only because there are so many great ones to choose from.
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Nice to see David Arnold's score getting appreciation. His score really sets up the atmosphere in the first half perfectly- particularily in the Castle Brav...ehm, I mean "French Polynesian" testing opening credits. Just overall eerie and mysterious, really gives off a Godzilla vibe (unlike the actual film lol).
Although overall, I have to say that Oshima is my favorite non-Ifukube composer with McCreary closing in 2nd. I just love her version of the Godzilla march from GvMG, powerful and fits ideally. Gotta love that omnious beginning.
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Dv-218 wrote:Nice to see David Arnold's score getting appreciation. His score really sets up the atmosphere in the first half perfectly- particularily in the Castle Brav...ehm, I mean "French Polynesian" testing opening credits. Just overall eerie and mysterious, really gives off a Godzilla vibe (unlike the actual film lol).
Although overall, I have to say that Oshima is my favorite non-Ifukube composer with McCreary closing in 2nd. I just love her version of the Godzilla march from GvMG, powerful and fits ideally. Gotta love that omnious beginning.
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tyrantgoji wrote:
Dv-218 wrote:Nice to see David Arnold's score getting appreciation. His score really sets up the atmosphere in the first half perfectly- particularily in the Castle Brav...ehm, I mean "French Polynesian" testing opening credits. Just overall eerie and mysterious, really gives off a Godzilla vibe (unlike the actual film lol).
Although overall, I have to say that Oshima is my favorite non-Ifukube composer with McCreary closing in 2nd. I just love her version of the Godzilla march from GvMG, powerful and fits ideally. Gotta love that omnious beginning.
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Back on composers, I will say that although he is not my favorite I always had a soft spot for Othani's techno-inspired GMK ost. Something about it just sounds unique but recognizeable.
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Finally did a composer ranking.

Akira Ifukube
Shiro Saigsu
Bear McCreary
Takayuki Hattori
Kow Otani
Masuro Sato
Alexander Desplat
Koichi Sugiyama
David Arnold
Michiru Oshima
Reijiro Koroku
Keith Emerson, Daisuke Yano and Nobuhiko Morino
Riichiro Manabe
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Tyrant_Lizard_King wrote: 8.Koichi Sugiyama
His work in Biollante is nothing overly exceptionally but it all works well within the story the film is trying to tell. It's a solid score despite lacking any real outstanding tracks.
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Bio-Wars always seemed out of place to me
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