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Re: Worst/strangest fan theories

Postby JAGzilla » Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:28 am

Wow, I never knew about that footage. Bagan looks more like an Ultra-monster than anything from a Godzilla movie, though.

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Re: Worst/strangest fan theories

Postby eabaker » Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:02 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Everything is canon because Toho never give out a official canon to the franchise.


Ummm... All the Toho-produced/distributed Godzilla theatrical films are canon. That's not a theory, it's a fact. They're not all in continuity with one another, but none are in any sense unofficial according to the arbitrating body, which is Toho.
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Re: Worst/strangest fan theories

Postby MaxRebo320 » Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:19 pm

He's lying. Tyler is messing with people who don't know better.
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Re: Worst/strangest fan theories

Postby Tamura » Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:40 pm

In all honestly, that video fooled even Shinichi Wakasa. I explained to him on his facebook that I made it and that it was a joke.
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Re: Worst/strangest fan theories

Postby JAGzilla » Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:26 pm

Tamura wrote:I explained to him on his facebook that I made it


:lol:

But seriously, what's it from?

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Re: Worst/strangest fan theories

Postby Tamura » Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:49 pm

Some Sentai-esque series Toho produced not long after GFW. Part of the prank was that Toho reused this footage of "Bagan" for the show, making it virtually infallible.
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Re: Worst/strangest fan theories

Postby MaxRebo320 » Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:07 pm

:lol: Wow, you'd think people could tell the difference between a huge budget blockbuster and a low budget kid's show!
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Re: Worst/strangest fan theories

Postby eabaker » Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:37 pm

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My enty into the worst theories would be those that tried to find some kind of hidden meaning into the mention that Serizawa had dealings with a German scientist.


Hidden meaning? In a Japanese movie bursting at the seams with allegory relating to the second world war, references to Japanese and Germans working together aren't hiding anything, the allusion is right on the surface.
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Re: Worst/strangest fan theories

Postby Brian R Culver » Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:42 pm

eabaker wrote:
Brian R Culver wrote:
My enty into the worst theories would be those that tried to find some kind of hidden meaning into the mention that Serizawa had dealings with a German scientist.


Hidden meaning? In a Japanese movie bursting at the seams with allegory relating to the second world war, references to Japanese and Germans working together aren't hiding anything, the allusion is right on the surface.


What allusion do you attribute to the fact that the scientist is German? What difference would it make to the film if the scientist was from another country?

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Re: Worst/strangest fan theories

Postby Kiryu2012 » Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:27 am

But if I recall, arn't you the one who said he could see Godzilla and Junior engage in sexual activity?

I was stupid back then.

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Re: Worst/strangest fan theories

Postby eabaker » Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:44 am

Brian R Culver wrote:
eabaker wrote:
Brian R Culver wrote:
My enty into the worst theories would be those that tried to find some kind of hidden meaning into the mention that Serizawa had dealings with a German scientist.


Hidden meaning? In a Japanese movie bursting at the seams with allegory relating to the second world war, references to Japanese and Germans working together aren't hiding anything, the allusion is right on the surface.


What allusion do you attribute to the fact that the scientist is German? What difference would it make to the film if the scientist was from another country?


Are you suggesting that there is literally no reason that the line was included? That, in the middle of an allegorical film addressing Japan's involvement in and the consequences of World War 2, a reference to and denial of a Japanese/German joint venture is just the result of the writers mad-libbing? And that Serizawa's hurried denial (in which he seems to be protesting too much) was a performance choice Akihiko Hirata made at random?

The absence of that reference would make no difference to the progression of the plot (and in reading a fictional narrative, we must look at what is included despite apparent plot irrelevance as therefore having been included for other purposes, in this case thematic). It would mean the inclusion of one reference fewer to the historical circumstances of Japan's involvement in World War 2.

The original Godzilla is not a film of neat 1:1 historical parallels. It is not a simile wrapped up in a neat little package. The reference to the German scientist doesn't need to represent some obvious, specific historical figure.

Serizawa's research is leading down a dark path, a path which - while it is ultimately responsible for saving countless lives - the filmmakers did not feel was one mankind ought to tread lightly. While Godzilla is symbolically linked to the atomic bomb, so is the Oxygen Destroyer. The audience is meant to be fearful of Serizawa and his work, before it is even revealed what that work is. Serizawa is coded throughout the first two thirds of the film as a dark, menacing figure, scarred in some way (literally and figuratively) by Japan's past.

When Serizawa is linked with Japan's war time allies, that is an explicit choice made to maintain an association the movie has been building between the circumstances at hand and the circumstances of World War 2.
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Re: Worst/strangest fan theories

Postby MaxRebo320 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:10 pm

Ooh! Ooh! I have one! A strange theory that Minilla is an asshole!!
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Re: Worst/strangest fan theories

Postby eabaker » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:27 pm

MaxRebo320 wrote:Ooh! Ooh! I have one! A strange theory that Minilla is an asshole!!


Well, what kind of an asshole manages not to age at all between 1967 and 1999?

Clearly, a total asshole.
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Re: Worst/strangest fan theories

Postby MaxRebo320 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:38 pm

eabaker wrote:
MaxRebo320 wrote:Ooh! Ooh! I have one! A strange theory that Minilla is an asshole!!


Well, what kind of an asshole manages not to age at all between 1967 and 1999?

Clearly, a total asshole.

James Bond is an asshole too.
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Re: Worst/strangest fan theories

Postby MaxRebo320 » Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:31 am

Cimmerian Dragon wrote:^ Nah, he keeps his youth via the curative properties of liquor and continuous unprotected sex with countless young partners.

Can't see Minilla getting laid anytime soon.
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Re: Worst/strangest fan theories

Postby MaxRebo320 » Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:34 pm

MaxRebo320 wrote:Can't see Minilla getting laid anytime soon.


Cimmerian Dragon wrote:Come on, it's JAPAN!

You know there are plenty of chicks who are into that scene.

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Re: Worst/strangest fan theories

Postby knockinrockin » Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:15 pm

Living Corpse wrote:When Bond is having sex he isn't really having sex, he's absorbing their life force to stay young, like Shang Tsung's "your soul is mine" deal.

Ash does the same thing in Pokemon, why do you think he's always got at least two people with him?


The weird thing is Ash is with a DUDE and a girl....
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