Favorite Godzilla Era?

[GotengoXGodzilla]

Could be a bit of both honestly. But I am pretty sure a good chunk of us on here watch the Godzilla series because it is fun and entertaining. We don't watch them for deep psychological thoughts and feelings (although some are a bit more thought provoking then others).

...You're getting "film criticism and analysis" confused with "psychological thoughts and feelings". Two very different things.

I am aware that the majority on TK doesn't like it but I am also aware that there are a group of us who either find it tolerable, okay, good or great. And I am happy to be apart of that smaller majority.

You mean minority. You're not part of any majority on GFW.

[GodzillaDude]

Could be a bit of both honestly. But I am pretty sure a good chunk of us on here watch the Godzilla series because it is fun and entertaining. We don't watch them for deep psychological thoughts and feelings (although some are a bit more thought provoking then others).

...You're getting "film criticism and analysis" confused with "psychological thoughts and feelings". Two very different things.

I am aware that the majority on TK doesn't like it but I am also aware that there are a group of us who either find it tolerable, okay, good or great. And I am happy to be apart of that smaller majority.

You mean minority. You're not part of any majority on GFW.

I just used the words "psychological thoughts and feelings" as a somewhat extreme example to say the main reason we all are or at least should be watching the Godzilla movies to be purely entertained.

And thanks for catching my typos!

[NSZ]

I watch the films for fun, don't get me wrong. I can even sit down and watch GvsKG despite how much my brain wants to beat it with a stick.

However, I get no fun out of watching Final Wars. I do not enjoy the music, I do not enjoy the utter fixation on the remarkably bland human characters, I do not enjoy the nerfing of monsters that were once evenly matched with Godzilla, I do not enjoy the paper mache Ghidorah, I do not enjoy the short as hell fights, I do not enjoy the color filters, I do not enjoy the Keanu Reeves wannabe, I do not enjoy the sequences lifted straight out of other movies, and I most certainly don't enjoy that bullshit, straight out of left field, deus ex machina to the 11th power ending.

There are a few things I like about this movie, but they're outweighed by the things I can't stand.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

I just used the words "psychological thoughts and feelings as a somewhat extreme example to say we all are or at least should be watching the Godzilla movies to be purely entertained.

...Um...no.

That would be incredibly stupid and stale. The day that happens is the day that I stop being a Godzilla fan.

[GodzillaDude]

I just used the words "psychological thoughts and feelings as a somewhat extreme example to say we all are or at least should be watching the Godzilla movies to be purely entertained.

...Um...no.

That would be incredibly stupid and stale. The day that happens is the day that I stop being a Godzilla fan.

It should at least be the main reason or one of the main reasons.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

I just used the words "psychological thoughts and feelings as a somewhat extreme example to say we all are or at least should be watching the Godzilla movies to be purely entertained.

...Um...no.

That would be incredibly stupid and stale. The day that happens is the day that I stop being a Godzilla fan.

It should at least be the main reason or one of the main reasons.

It's not though, and it never should be.

There's way more to watching movies then just "pure entertainment". You know what is "pure entertainment"? Porn. Pleasing yourself. The way you're describing what the Godzilla films should be is no better than an issue of Penthouse Forum.

[GodzillaDude]

So we're not watching the Godzilla films to enjoy them and be entertained? Most people watch movies to be entertained right?

[GotengoXGodzilla]

So we're not watching the Godzilla films to enjoy them and be entertained? Most people watch movies to be entertained right?

Like I said, there's more to movies then just "entertainment". If people wanted just entertainment, then we'd be want nothing but porn and sex magazines.

Because hey, those can give people some kind of satisfaction, or give them a momentary high.

Movies can't do that! I mean, they're just pictures after all! [/sarcasm]

[antovald20]

Can't we let this go? And talk about GvsD Ha!

[RedZillaKing]

Good God! I primarily watch Godzilla films for entertainment purposes. So I guess I'm doing it wrong...

This thread also taught me that there is only one type of entertainment. Porn.

[Rody]

Okay, this debate is getting pretty crazy now...

[Dr. Nishiyama]

so if I'm being entertained by Megalon or Sea monster (films that have no inner meaning whatsoever) it's the same as watching porn??? I was never informed about this in film school. Also, sorry, but the Godzilla films I'm entertained by don't give me the same feeling as watching two women diddling each other.

BOT, my favorite era is Showa, because it introduced us to all the really interesting kaiju and characters.

[GodzillaDude]

They can give feelings other than entertainment but to say entertainment isn't a main reason why most of us watch them is messed up. Especially when you start comparing it to a similar feeling you get with porn.

[Sydney Aradi]

So wait a minute here, if we watch Godzilla films for entertainment value instead of studying the films' merits for hours & hours on end then its akin to watching.........porn?

[EikoHarvey]

Alright I'm gonna go look for the intellectual value in Godzilla Final Wars.

[The Dark Uniter]

I really, and I mean really doubt that porn is the only pure entertainment, all movies/ shows are entertainment, they're a way of expression though more are thoughtful and insightful than others, I honestly can't classified Megalon being the same league as porn, that's ridiculous!

[Gawdziller]

I live to amuse myself. I watch Godzilla to amuse myself.

I watch porn for different reasons, to make baby Jesus cry. That amuses me more than the porn itself.

[GotengoXGodzilla]

so if I'm being entertained by Megalon or Sea monster (films that have no inner meaning whatsoever) it's the same as watching porn??? I was never informed about this in film school. Also, sorry, but the Godzilla films I'm entertained by don't give me the same feeling as watching two women diddling each other.

BOT, my favorite era is Showa, because it introduced us to all the really interesting kaiju and characters.

The bolded part is bullshit.

I think there is "inner meaning" in Ebirah, Horror Of The Deep, with the constant theme of rebellion in the film, and its reflective of the times in Japan. How every character is out to rebel against something (Yoshimitsu rebelling against society, Ryota rebelling against everyone saying that his brother is dead, Daiyo rebelling against the Red Bamboo, the Red Bamboo rebelling against the world, etc.).

Believe it or not, there are themes running through films like Ebirah, Horror Of The Deep, Son Of Godzilla and Terror Of MechaGodzilla, which make the movies more then just "pure entertainment". It makes them reflect what the world is like, and makes the audience wonder about their own lives and the world they live in. The film is essentially putting a mirror to the audience and saying, "This is part of your world, and we're going to show you what it could be like."

Also, some people seem to be taking my Porn statement a bit too far. Here's what I meant by it: When I hear "pure entertainment", I think of something that requires no thought whatsoever, no need to apply regular human emotions or feelings to the work, and essentially just sit there and be a vegetable. To me, that's not what movies are for. That's what porn is for. Thus, if a movie is just there simply to be "pure entertainment", it's not better then porn.

[EikoHarvey]

so if I'm being entertained by Megalon or Sea monster (films that have no inner meaning whatsoever) it's the same as watching porn??? I was never informed about this in film school. Also, sorry, but the Godzilla films I'm entertained by don't give me the same feeling as watching two women diddling each other.

BOT, my favorite era is Showa, because it introduced us to all the really interesting kaiju and characters.

The bolded part is bullshit.

I think there is "inner meaning" in Ebirah, Horror Of The Deep, with the constant theme of rebellion in the film, and its reflective of the times in Japan. How every character is out to rebel against something (Yoshimitsu rebelling against society, Ryota rebelling against everyone saying that his brother is dead, Daiyo rebelling against the Red Bamboo, the Red Bamboo rebelling against the world, etc.).

Believe it or not, there are themes running through films like Ebirah, Horror Of The Deep, Son Of Godzilla and Terror Of MechaGodzilla, which make the movies more then just "pure entertainment". It makes them reflect what the world is like, and makes the audience wonder about their own lives and the world they live in. The film is essentially putting a mirror to the audience and saying, "This is part of your world, and we're going to show you what it could be like."

Also, some people seem to be taking my Porn statement a bit too far. Here's what I meant by it: When I hear "pure entertainment", I think of something that requires no thought whatsoever, no need to apply regular human emotions or feelings to the work, and essentially just sit there and be a vegetable. To me, that's not what movies are for. That's what porn is for. Thus, if a movie is just there simply to be "pure entertainment", it's not better then porn.

Not saying what you said is entirely false, but I do want you to know that most of that isn't at all what they intended it for. They intended it for entertainment.

[GodzillaDude]

so if I'm being entertained by Megalon or Sea monster (films that have no inner meaning whatsoever) it's the same as watching porn??? I was never informed about this in film school. Also, sorry, but the Godzilla films I'm entertained by don't give me the same feeling as watching two women diddling each other.

BOT, my favorite era is Showa, because it introduced us to all the really interesting kaiju and characters.

The bolded part is bullshit.

I think there is "inner meaning" in Ebirah, Horror Of The Deep, with the constant theme of rebellion in the film, and its reflective of the times in Japan. How every character is out to rebel against something (Yoshimitsu rebelling against society, Ryota rebelling against everyone saying that his brother is dead, Daiyo rebelling against the Red Bamboo, the Red Bamboo rebelling against the world, etc.).

Believe it or not, there are themes running through films like Ebirah, Horror Of The Deep, Son Of Godzilla and Terror Of MechaGodzilla, which make the movies more then just "pure entertainment". It makes them reflect what the world is like, and makes the audience wonder about their own lives and the world they live in. The film is essentially putting a mirror to the audience and saying, "This is part of your world, and we're going to show you what it could be like."

Also, some people seem to be taking my Porn statement a bit too far. Here's what I meant by it: When I hear "pure entertainment", I think of something that requires no thought whatsoever, no need to apply regular human emotions or feelings to the work, and essentially just sit there and be a vegetable. To me, that's not what movies are for. That's what porn is for. Thus, if a movie is just there simply to be "pure entertainment", it's not better then porn.

I understand what your saying and I know there are themes in the Godzilla movies like you described but they made the film to entertain the fans. And I really like Son of Godzilla and the touching scene at the end still sticks in my mind so it's not just entertainment but the film was made to entertain the fans like I said.