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Postby Ivo-goji » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:14 pm

Everybody thinks Manda is supposed to be one of the Yamato Guardians because that's how Godzilla Neo reimagined GMK.
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Postby edgaguirus » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:15 pm

Manda would be perfect for a river and lake guardian.
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Postby SonOfGorgo » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:19 am

Personally, I think Rodan would've been a better alternative in GMK rather than Ghidorah.
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Re: Godzilla Unpopular Opinions

Postby Ivo-goji » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:27 am

I personally think none of the kaiju used for GMK make any sense besides Varan.

Baragon is a scifi dinosaur from a scifi film with no supernatural subtext.

Anguirus is also that, in addition to 100% not looking the part (the ancient spirit that guards the Japanese people- an ankylosaur? At least Baragon looks vaguely like a dragon or an oni) and being largely remembered as Godzilla's ally.

Then of course there's shorning Mothra of her whole mythos that was utilized in every other film she's ever had a title role in and the complete non-sequiter of making Ghidorah a good guy.

Really GMK should have just followed in the previous two entries footsteps and introduced new monsters. It would have gone a long way to improving the series reputation for recycling kaiju to avoid risks and made more sense narrative-wise than any version of the film that was under consideration.
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Re: Godzilla Unpopular Opinions

Postby RandomDeinonychus » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:47 am

Ivo-goji wrote:I personally think none of the kaiju used for GMK make any sense besides Varan.

Baragon is a scifi dinosaur from a scifi film with no supernatural subtext.

Anguirus is also that, in addition to 100% not looking the part (the ancient spirit that guards the Japanese people- an ankylosaur? At least Baragon looks vaguely like a dragon or an oni) and being largely remembered as Godzilla's ally.

Then of course there's shorning Mothra of her whole mythos that was utilized in every other film she's ever had a title role in and the complete non-sequiter of making Ghidorah a good guy.

Really GMK should have just followed in the previous two entries footsteps and introduced new monsters. It would have gone a long way to improving the series reputation for recycling kaiju to avoid risks and made more sense narrative-wise than any version of the film that was under consideration.

Having just rewatched the movie with my son last night, I have to disagree. Baragon fits because he looks like a dragon, King Ghidorah fits because he is a dragon--but Mothra does not fit. Not only because she doesn't make sense as a Japanese mythological creature, but because she doesn't even behave like Mothra.

King Ghidorah only doesn't seem to fit because it feels weird to see Godzilla's second-most powerful foe get killed by him three times with complete ease. In fact, I find the final battle of GMK more aggravating than Godzilla killing Ebirah and Hedorah seconds after Hedorah shows up in Final Wars.

Varan and Baragon both seem like a natural fit for mythological beasts--only Anguirus seems odd in that context, but not so odd that he couldn't have worked. Though I think if they had kept Varan and used King Ghidorah, it would have worked much better. But if it still ended the same way I'd probably still think it was a mediocre film.
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Postby GodzillaFan1990's » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:58 pm

Ivo-goji wrote:I personally think none of the kaiju used for GMK make any sense besides Varan.

Baragon is a scifi dinosaur from a scifi film with no supernatural subtext.

Anguirus is also that, in addition to 100% not looking the part (the ancient spirit that guards the Japanese people- an ankylosaur? At least Baragon looks vaguely like a dragon or an oni) and being largely remembered as Godzilla's ally.

Then of course there's shorning Mothra of her whole mythos that was utilized in every other film she's ever had a title role in and the complete non-sequiter of making Ghidorah a good guy.

Really GMK should have just followed in the previous two entries footsteps and introduced new monsters. It would have gone a long way to improving the series reputation for recycling kaiju to avoid risks and made more sense narrative-wise than any version of the film that was under consideration.

I always felt King Caesar (King Ghidorah) and Manda (Mothra) should've been among the three guardian monsters. Considering King Caesar's origins and role in the showa series, surprised he was never considered by Kaneko...

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Re: Godzilla Unpopular Opinions

Postby Lain Of The Wired » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:32 pm

King Caesar, Gabara, Manda
Sun. Lightning. Water.

BAM

That shoulda been the GMK cast

I'm sure that'll be an unpopular opinion :lol:
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Postby GodzillavsRayquaza » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:59 pm

Lain Of The Wired wrote:King Caesar, Gabara, Manda
Sun. Lightning. Water.

BAM

That shoulda been the GMK cast

I'm sure that'll be an unpopular opinion :lol:

With a few updated designs, that could have worked fine. I'd watch that movie.
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Re: Godzilla Unpopular Opinions

Postby RandomDeinonychus » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:36 pm

Much as I love the 1989 suit, as well as 1955, most of the Millennium suit, and 1984--I am sick of every Godzilla suit having to have four toes and tiny ears since 1984.

The only one pre-2014 that I can think of that broke the ear pattern is GMK, but it still had four toes. I'd like to see a return to the 1962-1975 three toes and lack of obvious ears. The 2014 and Shin designs did the no ears bit, but they still kept the four toes. It's time for a shift back for a little, make things fresh again--which is ironically why the ears and extra toe came back, I'm sure.
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Re: Godzilla Unpopular Opinions

Postby WeegeeZilla » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:42 pm

Keizer Ghidorah aside, I quite like Monster X. His design is certainly distinctive, and let's just say the fact that he's so overpowered makes him strangely endearing. He straight up throws Godzilla into the air and snaps both his wrists at once!
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Re: Godzilla Unpopular Opinions

Postby Coobzilla03 » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:49 am

I think '70s Godzilla is just about as overrated as Godzilla Final Wars is.
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Re: Godzilla Unpopular Opinions

Postby BlacktimusPrime » Sat Feb 25, 2017 5:46 pm

I don't care for the feline-like face Heisei Godzilla has; to add to this already unpopular opinion, I actually like FW Goji's face better (though that one looks off to me as well).
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Re: Godzilla Unpopular Opinions

Postby goji89 » Sat Feb 25, 2017 5:52 pm

Coobzilla03 wrote:I think '70s Godzilla is just about as overrated as Godzilla Final Wars is.


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Re: Godzilla Unpopular Opinions

Postby Gojira18 » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:17 pm

I think Godzilla 2014 is the 3rd best film of them all.

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Re: Godzilla Unpopular Opinions

Postby Lain Of The Wired » Sun Feb 26, 2017 4:49 am

Shin is the perfect remake :P
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Re: Godzilla Unpopular Opinions

Postby SonOfGorgo » Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:19 am

Lain Of The Wired wrote:Shin is the perfect remake :P

Now that you mentioned, Shin/Resurgence does indeed come close to being a remake of the '54 original, ironically more-so than the other films also simply titled 'Godzilla':
Godzilla '84 is an alternative sequel,
Godzilla '98 is a poorly-executed reimagining,
Godzilla 2014 is basically a reboot.
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Re: Godzilla Unpopular Opinions

Postby Lain Of The Wired » Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:32 am

Of course it's the perfect remake, it touches problems like the Fukashima disaster, and problems with Japan's government and how effectivly they react to situations, you know, stuff going on TODAY, just as Gojira 1954 dealt with issues plaguing their nation back then.
It's really the only film in the series that can stand with the original on terms of the message.
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Postby WeegeeZilla » Sun Feb 26, 2017 8:40 am

I think that other film franchises should look to how Shin was handled to see a great example of how to handle a remake/reboot and still have it be just as good as the original.
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Re: Godzilla Unpopular Opinions

Postby Dr. Professor » Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:27 pm

King Ghidorah's 2001 design and roar were his best. Godzilla vs. Biollante is boring.
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Postby ZeppandonConfirmed » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:36 am

I personally prefer Frankenstein vs Baragon over War of the Gargantuas.
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